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Guideline for sitter
    #5741304 - 06/12/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm soon going for a deep mushroom trip and my wife will be my sitter.
Does anyone know anything about any guideline for sitters that she can read, since she is unexperienced? Any link or document or any suggestion will be appreciated.


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: criscass]
    #5741310 - 06/12/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If she is unexperienced that basicaly renders her useless.

Shell assume you're having a superbad trip if anything and start asking you if you're "ok" for hours on end.

Go to erowid and tell her to read about about the mushroom experience from level 1-5. Thats the most she could do, besides taking her shrooms for herself.


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: Ginseng1]
    #5741510 - 06/12/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Best bet is to always have an experienced sitter, especially if you will be going for a dose significant enough to require one.


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: Ginseng1]
    #5741515 - 06/12/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This
links you directly to the sitter part of the psycholdelic experience faq
She should read it, you two should talk the things written in there over .
If your trip isn“t too high dosed she should do fine with this.
For high level experiences (level 4 and above) the sitter should have some experience aswell, though


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: Pithlit]
    #5742307 - 06/12/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks guys for your helpful advices.
I know my wife is not experienced with psychedelics (beside ganja) but she is the person i trust more and feel more confortable with. At the moment my circle of friends don't really suite the position...they will think I'm mad if I tell them i want to start such a kind of research.
So I think she will be fine and plus I have had very strong psychedelic experiences when I was 18 without having any trouble. Even helping mates overcome difficult moments during the trip together.
Thanks for your suggestion guys, and for the link Pithlit.


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: criscass]
    #5742344 - 06/12/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

IMHO, all a sitter is good for is helping you not get hit by cars or get arrested, or to call an ambulance in the rare case something really bad happens. (i.e. not breathing). IME, when you go "really deep", nothing a sitter can say would be relevant or in context anyway. They are just there as a capable backup, with normal cognition. Someone to steer your body out of harms way. I think in the spiritual/mental sense, you are on your own no matter who you're with.


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: tallgreen]
    #5742354 - 06/12/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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tallgreen said:
IMHO, all a sitter is good for is helping you not get hit by cars or get arrested, or to call an ambulance in the rare case something really bad happens. (i.e. not breathing).  IME, when you go "really deep", nothing a sitter can say would be relevant or in context anyway.  They are just there as a capable backup, with normal cognition.  Someone to steer your body out of harms way.  I think in the spiritual/mental sense, you are on your own no matter who you're with.




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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: tallgreen]
    #5742370 - 06/12/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have a built-in sitter. I always tell her what I'm taking, how much, the anticipated trip/duration, and have showed her trip reports and info regarding said substance. I take it in front of her, and always use common sense ( set, setting, timing,) and respect her wishes. She has been an indespensible ally in my journeys, and always makes me feel comfortable and loved!!
She is my wife, a R.N. How cool is that!!
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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5743353 - 06/12/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If i were u, i would find someone who is experienced with trippin, when i tripped, I had my older brother sit for me. He has tripped on acid and shrooms many a time and i can trust him to be a trip sitter. He even gave me a "safety briefing" prior to my first trip. In short, I had the best first trip


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: PSylopHiLe]
    #5743360 - 06/12/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Never trip alone either


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: PSylopHiLe]
    #5743677 - 06/12/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I disagree with PSYlophile, I have tripped by myself quite a few times and have very much enjoyed the experience. I do enjoy tripping with friends, but there is something about tripping alone that allows for a very spiritual and insightful journey. I would definitely recommend it to the experienced tripper. For those who are not, definitely have a sitter who takes a lesser dose than yours.


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: OSUbucksfan]
    #5743705 - 06/12/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I second that disagree-ing...

I had one of the most meaningful trips of my life a couple weeks ago by myself. It got me motivated and compelled me to love those around me and work hard to push forward and continue to do well in life. I have some job interviews coming up that I'd have never gotten myself ready for without this empowering experience.

Granted, tripping alone is a different ballgame, but the caveat "never trip alone" I think is misleading.

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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: Psilocyan]
    #5743873 - 06/12/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I used to trip with one person almost every time and I learned alot. but 70% of my trips have been alone and with good reason.

As far as advise for a trip sitter who has never tripped:

-Dont get bugged out by the occasional twisted look on the shroomers face. (You dont have to ask why)
-Dont be weirded out because they look all flushed.
-DOnt get worried if they want to do something like go outside and they cant explain why.
-Dont talk too much unless they want to talk(for their own trips sake)
-If they are worried about their heart rate tell them to relax, your doing fine. If they are still worried they should be reminded that such a heart rate is normal and it will get much better if you dont think about it. (anxiety is the biggest of your worries as a trip sitter)
-realize that if he or she was having a hard time during the come up they could very easily have a hard time all over again if they eat more, or smoke pot. (wanting to eat more is common after the comedown)
- To know your tripping friend is key. Most of this advise wont matter as long as you can improvise.
-If they dont even know where they are(very uncommon) dont get scared that they have lost their mind.
- dont let them nor yourself expect a "bad trip", tripping can be difficult and a bad trip is not necessarily a "bad thing".
-if they are having a hard time and you dont mind getting close some touch can help. It sounds simple to put your arm around somebody but it can do alot for a confused mind.
- dont be afraid to make them laugh when they are freaking out. Its possible.


I have had to talk someone down when they had eaten alot of acid with me. I was tripping and wanted nothing to do with it, but felt so bad for him(he was over the hard part in about 1.5 hours).
"bad trips and freak outs" are an easy way to define tripping to a point that you are not comfortable with. The person who totally lost it when we were together was so happy when he came to. It was the best trip of his life.

Most importantly, there is likely no reason for you to even be there, but on an off chance he just might need you to some degree.
Freak outs like that which I have seen almost never happen unless you are talking about people who are taking massive doses.

Dont expect a freak out. You (the sitter) will likely find yourself having a great time along with the person who is traveling through space.


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: Psilocyan]
    #5743974 - 06/12/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ya I totally agree...I prefer to be alone when trippin(tho its interesting with other ppl)


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Re: Guideline for sitter [Re: criscass]
    #5744283 - 06/12/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the lsd handbook, while quite lengthy, is about as good as you're going to get

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/guides/handbook_lsd25.shtml


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