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    #5740786 - 06/12/06 05:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

any1 got any idea what variation this is?





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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5740856 - 06/12/06 07:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Poppie ID [Re: pac_man]
    #5740857 - 06/12/06 07:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well if its not it blew in on the wind, P.somniferum is the only one i sowed...

heres some better pics:





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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5740866 - 06/12/06 07:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Poppie ID [Re: pac_man]
    #5743553 - 06/12/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well i had an expert look at it and it turns out is a freaky single leaf set peony.
kind of a rarity apparently...


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5761610 - 06/17/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:bump:

any1 ever seen anything like this?


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5763108 - 06/18/06 02:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

no but its dam pretty. want to trade? i need some exotic pretty poppies. they would make my garden look better.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: durban_poison]
    #5763135 - 06/18/06 03:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

nvm........


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5763137 - 06/18/06 03:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

could be but id still like some.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: durban_poison]
    #5763144 - 06/18/06 03:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hell no its not look at the leaves in the second pic not the grass p.somniferum or a hybrid


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5763150 - 06/18/06 03:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i want some seeds please...................................


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: durban_poison]
    #5763154 - 06/18/06 03:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah thats why i said nvm, lol because i just looked at the 1 side veiw pic and 1 front veiw, and it looked like it to me, then it laoded back up to the page and i seed it wasnt a vine and the leaves werent anythign like that so i edited to "nvm" :P


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5763262 - 06/18/06 04:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sorry durb, im gonna keep these to myself for the time being till
i know exactly what im dealing with here.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5764056 - 06/18/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so if i tell you the variety, you could send me ten. i know i have seen it before on a poppy site. in fact i believe they sell those i will check and get back with you.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: durban_poison]
    #5764066 - 06/18/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ok a danebrog lace p.somniferum. they sell over a 100 seeds for $2.50. have to get some. they only get to 24 inchs tall how big is yours? only one flower per plant?


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Re: Wierd poppie ID [PICS] [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5764080 - 06/18/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

pictures of danish flag(peony) look similar but your coloring is darker. this same company sells gibberic acid. found a new source for that as well i guess.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: durban_poison]
    #5764085 - 06/18/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

nope, hen and chicks.
as for sise i couldnt say, im growing ubnder crappy circumstances.
but judging by the sise of the pod compared to pods of regular purple white poppies in the same tub its a big mother.

the danebrog lace looks to me like Danish flag veriety.
wich is one of the ones i did sow.
but this looks severely different though, if it realy is danish flag its some sort of mutant or hybrid...


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5768693 - 06/19/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well ive been asking around and apparently this realy is something new.
so im gonna propagate it and see if i can stabalise the form.
then ill get it regged and make a million dollors or something...

if it realy is new i at least want to get to name it, so itll be a wile before these reach the market.

anyways what it appears to be at the moment is a single petaled mutation of the 'Drama Queen' form...


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5768968 - 06/19/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well you have to stabilize that trait first. you may only get 1 out of a 1000 with the seeds if this is true. you also dont know who the pollen donor is. i presume its mainly self pollinated but how can you tell.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5770313 - 06/19/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well it doesnt look like any of the poppies i sowed.
i sowed Danish flag, persian blue and turkish commercial.
none of those look like a parent to me.

the ratios wont be as bad as all that, im sure,
but in any case i got a professional ethno garden and poppie expert who will help me out with it.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5841631 - 07/10/06 08:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

to complete the thread: i found these poppies some 3 years ago in a park in the south of Rotterdam. a place where there used to be garden houses for rent, they broke those down, and the next year the field was full with poppies, different kinds. here is a picture i took 3 years ago of what i think is the same poppie as the one on vertigo's pictures: http://members.chello.nl/rebekker/123.JPG this is not strange because a few years ago i had send some different kinds of poppie seeds to vertigo, including that one. for a few years they didnt came up, this year they did.

and now you want to register the plant, and who knows maybe what. it still seems a bit strange to me when i think about it :smirk:

you know what i mean, should i be doing the same thing as you, and try to register the plant or something because of the money that could be made from it? if there is anny money in it. or maybe register if that would be possible and/or just share the seeds with people, like i did before with you and still keep it exclusive? i prefer the last.



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Re: Poppie ID [Re: kREATION1]
    #5841783 - 07/10/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i dunno, i like the exclusive idea, but it makes it kind of vulnerable.
if we register it n stuff it will virtualy assure the survival of this
form.

as for money to be made, im still not sure about how that works n stuff.
my friend the ethnobotanist assures me its possible to get it officialy regged and let it pay fot itself even steven.
that sounds pretty good to me.

im not in this for money, i want to preserve the form (i realy love its looks) and if possible get a chance to name it.

also i told u on smartboard that ure welcome to come and involve yourself in any or all parts of the process, including the naming.
as far as im concerned you have an equal stake next to my farmer friend and myself.

im celebrating my birthday on the farm there on aug 5th,
consider yourself invited.


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #5858741 - 07/14/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

It's the "Drama Queen" variety of Papaver Somniferum


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Re: Poppie ID [Re: bearmtn]
    #5858748 - 07/14/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

actualy the drama queen has a double set of petals, this has a single set...


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