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ZippoZ
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so eventually im going to start my own country
#5740062 - 06/11/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah, i dont like the US, or the UN telling me what i can and can not do , especially when it does not interfere with anyone elses life or well being.
so, a few years down the line (hopefully not too many) i do plan on starting my own country, that is after i dominate the oil business in this one (oh yes i have actual plans)
Anyhow there are a few options open to me,
as most of the land on the earth is claimed i can do the following.
1) overthrow a government and install my own legal system,
this is pretty risky and would have to be done in africa, i would create a better life for the people of the nation, the natives, but also allow freedoms and issue assylum for people persecuted in other countries, but as its a region prone to overthrows and other shady deals i would probably be killed, or de throned and put in jail in a matter of time, so its not the best bet, although workable.
Legally recognition would not be an issue as the country would allready exist ( to be an existing country you have to be regognised by another country)
2) Purchase a large barge or oil platform in international waters.
This would be some what more difficult in some ways and easier in others. While the purchase of the platform would be somewhat straight forward i would have literally no protection, as im in international waters. I would have to be heavily armed and able to defend my country. this has worked in the past and has established the principality of sealand www.sealand.de if i recall right
3) The take over of an un-inhabited island
This is also another posibility but somewhat more difficult than the above mentioned off shore country. I would have to find an island in one of the oceans outside of any exsisting territorial waters. I would have to prove that there was no previous claim or occupants on the island, and once again gain recognition from another country.
--- in all honesty the best bet would be to get about 50 people willing to start this with me, secure startup money, and wait for one of the oceans to have an undersea volcano that formed an island. Then it would be a race to get there first and claim the damn thing in the name of my new country. while this will happen eventually there is no solid bet that it will happen any time soon, and in any of our lifeimes..
we shall see though, we shall see.
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740068 - 06/11/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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neat!
am i invited?
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740069 - 06/11/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like option #1. We could form a militia and kick out some corrupt African government. No better way to start a country than with a humanitarian mission. Can I be a sniper?
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: Ythan]
#5740071 - 06/11/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i wanna be a berserker!
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740073 - 06/11/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh man...I'd love to be the dictator of my own sovereign nation. I would wear a military uniform with over-sized aviator glasses (like some Latin American banana republic strong-man). I would have statues of myself erected everywhere. I would televize executions of people that pissed me off...etc...etc..
Good times.
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: Ythan]
#5740081 - 06/11/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah sure man yourre all welcome there.
the hard partw ill be buying large quantites of arms from other countries under the radar.
Im sure that the russians would sell me allmost anything with the right amount of cash, hell i know that you can buy a submarine from them.. i think that those subs went for $500 mil few years back actually.
but like i said if it has been overthrown once, it will be again. to get in that position, peopole would probably have to die, and that is somehitng i cant really live with...
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740092 - 06/11/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I've learned anything by living in the US, it's that you never fight your own battles. We just need to spark a civil war and then provide support and logistics.
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5740094 - 06/11/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#5740106 - 06/11/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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smart man Y, smart man, hey, im sending you im's on aim are you getting them?
but yeah, we could probably go take over Darfur if we had the money and the logistics and save a lot of lives, and also be hailed as heroes. theres always a viable conflict
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740109 - 06/11/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha sorry you were victim of the window behind a window syndrome.
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740127 - 06/11/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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im down im gangsta ya dont even know
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ZippoZ
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: Dobie]
#5740147 - 06/11/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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word, did you know that you can get an AK47 with a collapsable stock dilivered to your door for $350?
what a deal!
come to think of it my friends father has connections in Pakastan to arms dealers, but he's dead, either way im sure that i could get that connect going on 
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
Edited by zippoz (06/11/06 11:18 PM)
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740190 - 06/11/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
zippoz said: 1) overthrow a government and install my own legal system,
2) Purchase a large barge or oil platform in international waters.
3) The take over of an un-inhabited island
1) Been done to death, that is just old school, never worth the blood shed.
2) Water World? Naw I see problem with that one
3)The most plausible one. And obtainable, there are Islands for sale, but now to have it under your control that's different, but money speaks.
so it come down to this is it 'under your control', who decides on who goes and does what. If that's the system, then it will never work. You need like minded minds, it's one of those things that just happen, cause of circumstance, you cant force it, it has to be of free will. Other wise it have been done before there called cults, monarchy's, dictatorships, theocracies......
So, how could this happen, 50 people show up on a island one day and all have the same thought, hey here is an idea why dont we....
I think it would be very cool, but when ever I here let's start our own country, well we all knows what happens.
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5740201 - 06/11/06 11:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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go here http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/
the numberr 2 idea is the most workable actually
It has been done, if you read the linnk above, you will see that it is workable, and has been done.
hell one guy took over, with a shotgun, an old anti aircraft platform in the sea off of the UK, and it is now recognised as a country
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740223 - 06/11/06 11:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just meant living on the sea,
everything would need to be imported, and that means your at the mercy of others.
I dont see how this could support a 'colony', self supporting, that is the only way you could truly remain free,
Maybe as a research facility, for LSD and DMT and other controlled substances, then real work could happen to advance it, since few countries can.
And the weather,
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5740258 - 06/12/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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if i have a barge, i can outrun the weather
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zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740280 - 06/12/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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There you go, 
So I take it that you like the sea, and not just to look at it.
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740291 - 06/12/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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zippoz said: yeah, i dont like the US, or the UN telling me what i can and can not do , especially when it does not interfere with anyone elses life or well being.
so, a few years down the line (hopefully not too many) i do plan on starting my own country, that is after i dominate the oil business in this one (oh yes i have actual plans)
Anyhow there are a few options open to me,
as most of the land on the earth is claimed i can do the following.
1) overthrow a government and install my own legal system,
this is pretty risky and would have to be done in africa, i would create a better life for the people of the nation, the natives, but also allow freedoms and issue assylum for people persecuted in other countries, but as its a region prone to overthrows and other shady deals i would probably be killed, or de throned and put in jail in a matter of time, so its not the best bet, although workable.
Legally recognition would not be an issue as the country would allready exist ( to be an existing country you have to be regognised by another country)
2) Purchase a large barge or oil platform in international waters.
This would be some what more difficult in some ways and easier in others. While the purchase of the platform would be somewhat straight forward i would have literally no protection, as im in international waters. I would have to be heavily armed and able to defend my country. this has worked in the past and has established the principality of sealand www.sealand.de if i recall right
3) The take over of an un-inhabited island
This is also another posibility but somewhat more difficult than the above mentioned off shore country. I would have to find an island in one of the oceans outside of any exsisting territorial waters. I would have to prove that there was no previous claim or occupants on the island, and once again gain recognition from another country.
--- in all honesty the best bet would be to get about 50 people willing to start this with me, secure startup money, and wait for one of the oceans to have an undersea volcano that formed an island. Then it would be a race to get there first and claim the damn thing in the name of my new country. while this will happen eventually there is no solid bet that it will happen any time soon, and in any of our lifeimes..
we shall see though, we shall see.
You could just impregnate the princess of some tiny nation with a constitutional monarchy.
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: GnuBobo]
#5740424 - 06/12/06 12:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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that would be soo rediculously tight if the shroomery like had its own fucking island, that was completely soverign..
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Re: so eventually im going to start my own country [Re: ZippoZ]
#5740480 - 06/12/06 01:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You'll need a plan after you form your country. In "The Mouse that Roared," the postage-stamp-sized nation of the Duchy of Grand Fenwick decides that the best way to become prosperous is to declare war on the United States; hoping they will be swiftly defeated and subsequently become beneficiaries of the kind of rebuilding wealth spent on Japan and Germany after WWII. It almost worked too, but hilarious hi-jinks ensued, when the the Duchy of Grand Fenwick accidentally defeated the United States by capturing the Q-Bomb.
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