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No casing...but it's a-okay!
    #5740009 - 06/11/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have a monotub that has been fruiting now for about 3 weeks. It died down a little this past week, but so far I have harvested about 3 dry ounces. I looked in it today and there are SERIOUSLY about 60 FAT pins coming up. So what's the deal? Seems to me that casing isn't necessary at all.


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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: figment]
    #5740020 - 06/11/06 10:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I read a post by RR before that said something about how in a monotub a casing layer is very unneccesary. I can't seem to find it now though  :spliff: In my most recent tub I didn't use a casing and still netted about 2.5 dry.


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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: HighGuy]
    #5740023 - 06/11/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

seems like he knows what he's talking about. I wonder why it is different with a monotub?


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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: figment]
    #5740076 - 06/11/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5595987

this is probably what you were talking about.


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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: monstermitch]
    #5740086 - 06/11/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The way it was explained to me by RK(RaodKill) is if you want an even pin set then you case if you want big ones then you do not. GL


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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: kilroy]
    #5743748 - 06/12/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

shit. i do get big ones. my biggest one so far was about 80 grams wet.


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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: figment]
    #5743786 - 06/12/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There is no doubt that a casing layer can increase yields. With some species, it's required for fruits to form. With cubes, a casing layer is optional, but unless you have a way of maintaining nearly 100% humidity at the substrate level, it's hard to get a really good pinset. With tray culture, a sheet of wax paper can help, but the other job of a casing layer is to supply moisture for the flush, which wax paper can not.

Two plusses for uncased substrates is they are contaminant resistant, where often the uncolonized portions of a casing layer can become contaminated, and you get fruits sooner when not waiting for a casing layer to colonize before initiating pinning.

With uncased substrates(or cased for that matter), you can use a syringe to inject water into the interior.
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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: figment]
    #5743829 - 06/12/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Figment, do you have any difficulties with maintaining surface moisture/ keeping the surface from drying out? What sort of approach to humidity control do you use? Do you try to hit a higher humidity % due to no casing?


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Re: No casing...but it's a-okay! [Re: Wowbobwow12]
    #5745608 - 06/13/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I haven't done anything to tell you the truth.  I mist it, but I haven't even misted it very often.  I also have it outside under some foilage.  The humidity here (in OK) ranges from about 30-40% daily.  That's pretty low.  In addition to that I leave about a half inch crack in the lid.  LOTS OF FAE.  And BIG mushrooms.  And lots of em'.

All I have been doing it kind of pressing on the substrate to make sure it is field consistency (water begins to come up around my finger tips).  If it's not I have just been pouring water in the sides (b/w the sub. and the wall of the tub)  But I got a syringe yesterday and I am going to start doing that.

I know it all seems very unorthadox, but it seems to be working wonders...in my brain, as well as in the tub  lol! :rockon: :regularshroom:


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