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Are you happy?
    #5738290 - 06/11/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Are you happy, trully happy with your life? Do you feel like a honest happy child?


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5738310 - 06/11/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yes!

It somewhat comes in waves, but I find myself the great majority of time extremely happy!

It's so to such a degree that my parents used to scowl me by saying only the stupid are constantly happy. I've actually been told this by numerous individuals now that I think about it. People have often suggested that my degree of happiness must be driven by a correlated level of ignorance. :shrug:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5738329 - 06/11/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I try to be, but honestly, no. I'm out of college and working as a janitor, with no apparent direction in life. I don't know how I'm going to manage to save enough money to move out of my parents' house. I get into arguments with my dad every week, and it seems like this drama is never going to end. The one thing that keeps me going is my firm belief that God has a plan for me, and that what I'm going through now is just a small part of the bigger picture.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5738334 - 06/11/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Silversoul said:
The one thing that keeps me going is my firm belief that God has a plan for me, and that what I'm going through now is just a small part of the bigger picture.



Paradise is in the shadow of the swords.  :wink:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: spud]
    #5738596 - 06/11/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i've been the happiest ive been in years lately but from time to time the way my life is heading gets me down. i'm in a situation similar to Silversoul, only i'm about to graduate college but i don't have any idea what i'm going to do afterwards and i'm afraid i will be stuck living with my parents in a state and town i dont really want to be in. things didn't work out with this girl i was involved with and because i have a difficult time with relationships of any kind, i feel like the next few years of my life are going to be very lonely. most of my college friends are moving away or don't live close to me anyway. i'd like to move back to the east coast where i grew up but i don't see how i am going to be able to afford that. i have faith that things will work out eventually though.


Edited by Deviate (06/11/06 04:31 PM)


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Deviate]
    #5738603 - 06/11/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sometimes...but it is usually short-lived.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5738792 - 06/11/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Now one of your posts reminded me of two movies. Ever see God Almighty? Remember what occupation God had here on Earth in it?

Janitor

In another story called the Fisherman and his Wife, they start out in a humble home by the Sea. The husband catches and lets a magical fish go. The wife wonders why he did not ask for some magical wishes to be granted him in exchange for his letting the fish go.

She tells her husband to ask him to give them a larger home. Done. Next she wants to become King, then Emperor of all the land and then Pope. Done Done Done. Finally, The wife decides she wants to be God himself. So the fish tells the husband, "go home, your wife is God" and the fishermen goes back to find their humble home and beginnings.

You have said a while back that you had surrendered your life in service to the God. Thats a disorienting place to be. Consider how you have been talking of the virtues of being humble for months. Now you were given the opportunity to understand them first hand, through this job, which is a gift, though it may not seem so now to you or your Father.

When I surrendered to that which is wiser them my ego self, I became more broke and in debt then ever before and I wasn't "Happy :smile:" about it either. Then one day, something happened and I decided to start getting happy about and with, what I did have. Little by little, as my inner state started to uplift itself, so did the financial situation.

I realized, the Divine within, no matter how low our physical and material status may be, can take us to the MOST HIGH place there is. And when you let it take you there, in every breath of every day, the rest seems to follow naturally.

In other words, saying it is within you and realizing it within you are two different things. It starts with the one. First comes the concept/belief and then, with acceptance which can take time we start moving into the reality and experience of it and it becomes real-realized.

In short, your life has already taken up direction with Gods plan for you. It always starts with humble beginnings as they are the strongest foundation for the rest to grow upon and move into. :thumbup:



To answer your question wood, I am one of the most happiest mo fos on the planet. It's not because of the material wealth around me, it's because I keep remembering and realizing the wealth within my heart, soul and spirit.


:peace: :heart:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5738823 - 06/11/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Damn straight! I am eternally happy. I am never down for more than a few minutes. Ones awareness determines one's reality...if one does not maintain a positive mental attitude under every circumstance you open the door to your own destruction.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Deviate]
    #5738829 - 06/11/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"i'm about to graduate college but i don't have any idea what i'm going to do afterwards and i'm afraid i will be stuck living with my parents in a state and town i dont really want to be in"

Your adventure begins now! Put away your fear and answer the call of adventure with joy and passion.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5739839 - 06/11/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Are you happy, trully happy with your life? Do you feel like a honest happy child?

What do you mean by trully? And if I was a dishonest happy child would that count?

I'm about as happy as George Carlin. I saw some recent stuff of his and he made a lot of sense to me. In a fucking "happy" way. Fuck happy. It's overrated.


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Edited by LunarEclipse (06/11/06 09:59 PM)


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5739943 - 06/11/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This is a great question.

I was just thinking about it two minutes ago.

So, I have decided that yes, I am honestly very happy, and just saying that makes me happier.

I will explain.

So, I had always been, for my entire life, happy, without a doubt. I never got worked up about anything, am always just purely happy. However, since experimenting with drugs and philosophy and such, I have seen my happiness waver a bit. Only because it seems during some experiences I have experienced unhappiness, and I somehow convince myself I am unhappy at times.

And the last thing it is is unhappiness at my life conditon. I am very happy about everything material in my life and my love and joy and my friends and my family. What sometimes makes me feel like I am unhappy is when I think, hmm, am I unhappy? Is there more to this? And then just the doubt makes me unhappy. So I realised, I am happy. Just stop doubting it, geeze. That is where I stand!

When I think about how I actually am just happy and how wonderful life is, wow, wow, wow. Like right now, I am honestly so happy to be alive. The fact that I can write this and the fact that so much is wonderful. The music playing, the friends I have, the things to look forward to.

Wow.

:smile:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: michael_lifshitz]
    #5739968 - 06/11/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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What sometimes makes me feel like I am unhappy is when I think, hmm, am I unhappy? Is there more to this




i think i know exactly what you mean. i remember as a kid, i would be playing with my friends or something and suddenly i would think to myself "am i having fun? what is fun and why should this activity lead to it?" and as soon as i would think that, i'd stop having fun and this feeling of confusion and hopelessness would come over me.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: michael_lifshitz]
    #5740007 - 06/11/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well I am happy with some aspects of my life and unhappy with other aspects. I could change for the better and in some ways have but there's always room for improvement. Still, one can be unhappy because one isn't happy if that makes sense. I try to keep a balance because the highs can lead to the lows and I would rather keep on the surface relaxing with some toddies and rope in my yacht.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5740161 - 06/11/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yes!


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #5740713 - 06/12/06 04:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you are what you eat

eat happy food


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5740727 - 06/12/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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OldWoodSpecter said:
Are you happy, trully happy with your life? Do you feel like a honest happy child?




:yesnod:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: niteowl]
    #5740741 - 06/12/06 04:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"Ask yourself whether you are happy and you cease to be so." ~John Stuart Mill

I first heard this from the movie "13 conversations about one thing", and I didn't like the quote at all... in fact, it bothered me in a way. I thought that it was some esoteric, yet vague blather.... until I really thought about that quote.

If you ever find yourself asking that question, you have ceased to enjoy life, and began to live it from an almost external and completely analytical perspective. It isn't saying that you aren't happy at all, but at the time that you stopped to seriously ask yourself that, you have ceased just BEING, and being content or happy with that.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5740770 - 06/12/06 05:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think true happiness is a pretty evasive state. Recently I'm probably close to the happiest I've ever been...but since I was last this happy (a couple of years ago) there's been a lot of bad water under the bridge so...it's happiness with more sadness underlying it than before. But it's still happy.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: mr_kite]
    #5740805 - 06/12/06 06:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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mr_kite said:
I think true happiness is a pretty evasive state. Recently I'm probably close to the happiest I've ever been...but since I was last this happy (a couple of years ago) there's been a lot of bad water under the bridge so...it's happiness with more sadness underlying it than before. But it's still happy.




Being sad and happy are two sides of the same thing, a happy life

Being closed, cynical, eating yourself from inside and ignoring that is another way of life

So I guess my question should have been: do you have a life with open, honest happyness and sadness, or are you cynical, angry and depressive


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5740926 - 06/12/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl2:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5740945 - 06/12/06 08:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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So I guess my question should have been: do you have a life with open, honest happyness and sadness, or are you cynical, angry and depressive




I have a life with open cynical anger and depression as well as open honest happiness and sadness. If you want to walk around all day with a stupid fucking happy face on all the time and say "have a nice day" even if you aren't that's a choice too I guess.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5741130 - 06/12/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've always been a lucky person in life.
And it's been full & beautiful.
But I guess I just naturally wanted to exhibit my full range of emotions and feelings, intensely.
I would be very blissed out half the time, or deeply depressed, or angry or cynical.

Eventually there just came a point where I took control over the poison.
Toxic feelings of rage, or bitter melancholy, or fears, it's really a huge waste of thought, and does no good for nothing.
Quit killing yourself and just let go of it.
You do it by watching your stream of thought and noticing when it jumps to negative, then you replace it with anything wholesome, usually something boring, like a flower or bunny rabbit, or something you love that isn't disgusting.

the human mind natural sinks into the ground, like seeds of weeds in the immaculate garden.
it's much easier to pull up the weeds each morning when they are still tiny sprouts, instead of letting them get giant and out of hand.

i'm always happy now, even when i'm not happy
i don't give credit to my own control over my mind though
i give credit to the near death experience i had
that made me realize the great wonder of life, and that it's worth enjoying.
don't ruin your time with bad feelings.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Telepylus]
    #5741226 - 06/12/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If I were to go around pulling out all the weeds in my yard I would be doing it all day long. Once you have let them go too long you might as well enjoy the dandelions.

As for "weeding of the mind" you make a good point about paying attention to thought flow and nipping negative thoughts by diversion and I think that is good practice. Like anything, we tend to fall back into old habits if we are not attentive and responsive.

More importantly though, when life gives you lemons it's time to make lemonade. That's the real key to happiness, accepting the cards you are dealt and making the best of them.


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Edited by LunarEclipse (06/12/06 10:31 AM)


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5741538 - 06/12/06 12:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sometimes.

I have low self esteem (hate to admit), so the way I feel is heavily determined by what I'm doing/accomplishing.

So if I fail anything, even a quiz ( in college with 2 majors/ 2 minors) I get bummed out.

Sad. but i know of a lot of people who are like that. Ain't a good way to be. I wish I could be one of those "I feel great about myself no matter what happends cause i'm the shit" people, but it hasn't worked for me as of yet.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5741629 - 06/12/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wish I could be one of those "I feel great about myself no matter what happends cause i'm the shit" people, but it hasn't worked for me as of yet.

I'd strongly suggest you re-think that wish. That type of person is drunk on ego. You actually have an advantage over them because you can grow to accept yourself just as you are, with all your strengths and weaknesses. A person who is drunk on ego can do this as well, but it is far more difficult because they first must realize their lack of importance in the universe, and this can be challenging.

People with lower self-esteem in my experience tend to realize far more readily their lack of importance in the universe, but many make the mistake of getting down and blue over this. Most likely because they think that there are in fact people who are important. This is not true. Everyone is equal in their lack of importance (despite what they may want you to think), and everyone has different strengths.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: dblaney]
    #5741668 - 06/12/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

99% of the thoughts you have today are the same ones you had yesterday

and 99% of the thoughts you have today, you will have tomorrow too

so each day you only have a 1% margin to change your thought patterns

all you have to do is make a conscious decision each morning to try to make your brain a more happy productive organ

and in 99 days, you'll realize some transformation, i promise.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5741932 - 06/12/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
Being sad and happy are two sides of the same thing, a happy life

Being closed, cynical, eating yourself from inside and ignoring that is another way of life

So I guess my question should have been: do you have a life with open, honest happyness and sadness, or are you cynical, angry and depressive




Ahhhh ....................I guess Im somehwere in the middle. Like most people.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5742212 - 06/12/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If anyone reading here is sad or down much of the time, here is something I figured out that helps me to remember and turn things around.

The stubborn behavior develops during childhood. Something goes wrong and often, if we stay miserable and sulking, some adult will fix it for us.

So we learn, that when something goes wrong "not our way" if we stay sulking eventually some adult will come along and "fix it for us".

Not a good system to rely on for your sense of happiness and good general well being, especially once after you have become an adult yourself.

Feeling up is something we must allow ourselves to feel. It is something we must give ourselves permission to feel.

The way to turn it around is to say, "Yes something went wrong. This sucks. However, if I see no way to make it right again, I will feel like crap until someone does, unless I allow myself to feel good again ANYWAY, despite it.

Feeling good/happy is a choice we make. It's not something we can only feel when things are going well. We can feel it anytime we choose to let ourselves feel it.

The thing is, feeling lousy fixes nothing and can often, make more to come get worse. Often, when we relax into feeling good again, we often do see solutions more easily.

That's not the point here, solutions or not.

The point is, recognize when you are not allowing yourself to feel good out of a stubborn with-holding pattern "happening completely on the subconscious level" learned from childhood.


You and only you, can give yourself permission to feel good irregardless of what is happening in your life.

Our sadness and moping about is a subconscious way of expressing to the world, something is wrong in my life, will someone please fix it so I can be happy and "up" again.

Why must there be a contingency to your own good feeling and well being?

It's manipulation stuff we learned as children and the older we get, the less effective it becomes. 

It's like the scene in Karate Kid 111 when Mr. Miaggi had some thugs smash up his new business. Driving home, Daniel was all pissed off and hot and Mr. Miaggi was singing happy songs. Danial was like, "How can you be singing happy songs when they just trashed our new business and threatened us? We need to get those guys, call the police, do something.

Mr. Miaggi just said

DANIELSON! SING HAPPY SONG WITH ME.  :smile: Miaggi went about singing again La lala di da do la la la while Daniel had flames blowing out of his ears.:lol:

Mr. Miaggi plays the character of a very wise man in those movies.  :thumbup:


:peace: :heart:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5742277 - 06/12/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
If anyone reading here is sad or down much of the time, here is something I figured out that helps me to remember and turn things around.

The stubborn behavior develops during childhood. Something goes wrong and often, if we stay miserable and sulking, some adult will fix it for us.

So we learn, that when something goes wrong "not our way" if we stay sulking eventually some adult will come along and "fix it for us".

Not a good system to rely on for your sense of happiness and good general well being, especially once after you have become an adult yourself.

Feeling up is something we must allow ourselves to feel. It is something we must give ourselves permission to feel.

The way to turn it around is to say, "Yes something went wrong. This sucks. However, if I see no way to make it right again, I will feel like crap until someone does, unless I allow myself to feel good again ANYWAY, despite it.

Feeling good/happy is a choice we make. It's not something we can only feel when things are going well. We can feel it anytime we choose to let ourselves feel it.

The thing is, feeling lousy fixes nothing and can often, make more to come get worse. Often, when we relax into feeling good again, we often do see solutions more easily.

That's not the point here, solutions or not.

The point is, recognize when you are not allowing yourself to feel good out of a stubborn with-holding pattern "happening completely on the subconscious level" learned from childhood.


You and only you, can give yourself permission to feel good irregardless of what is happening in your life.

Our sadness and moping about is a subconscious way of expressing to the world, something is wrong in my life, will someone please fix it so I can be happy and "up" again.

Why must there be a contingency to your own good feeling and well being?

It's manipulation stuff we learned as children and the older we get, the less effective it becomes. 

It's like the scene in Karate Kid 111 when Mr. Miaggi had some thugs smash up his new business. Driving home, Daniel was all pissed off and hot and Mr. Miaggi was singing happy songs. Danial was like, "How can you be singing happy songs when they just trashed our new business and threatened us? We need to get those guys, call the police, do something.

Mr. Miaggi just said

DANIELSON! SING HAPPY SONG WITH ME.  :smile: Miaggi went about singing again La lala di da do la la la while Daniel had flames blowing out of his ears.:lol:

Mr. Miaggi plays the character of a very wise man in those movies.  :thumbup:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5742356 - 06/12/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Some sadness in life is reasonable and natural. I did say in my first post there is nothing wrong with it. The feeling overcomes me sometimes, like the other day when I saw that my cat had killed a bird I use to enjoy watching in my yard. After about 20-30 minutes, I allowed myself to feel happy again, despite that sad event.

That last reply of mine was written for people stuck in that feeling most or all of the time, who don't want to be, don't even understand how they got there and so don't know how to get out of it.

If it doesn't apply to you wood, then it doesn't. :smile: If you haven't noticed, many shroomerites live in a chronic case of the blues and don't like it.

Because its a choice, if I or anyone else here chooses to be content-happy-blissed out most of the time, why begrudge us of that? Nothing wrong with that either.  :smile:

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5742404 - 06/12/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
Some sadness in life is reasonable and natural. I did say in my first post there is nothing wrong with it. The feeling overcomes me sometimes, like the other day when I saw that my cat had killed a bird I use to enjoy watching in my yard. After about 20-30 minutes, I allowed myself to feel happy again, despite that sad event.

That last reply of mine was written for people stuck in that feeling most or all of the time, who don't want to be, don't even understand how they got there and so don't know how to get out of it.

If it doesn't apply to you wood, then it doesn't. :smile: If you haven't noticed, many shroomerites live in a chronic case of the blues and don't like it.

Because its a choice, if I or anyone else here chooses to be content-happy-blissed out most of the time, why begrudge us of that? Nothing wrong with that either.  :smile:

:peace: :heart:




Well being sad for a longer period of time give birth to other emotions, and can cause one to close down, and become sick, so period of saddnes is over, and period of illness (being jaded, cynical, irritated, mad, depressive) comes instead.

As long as you are honest with yourself that can't happen. Depression often prevents one from being both sad and happy, because being sad is admiting that you could have been happy.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5742510 - 06/12/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps I had a wicked childhood
Perhaps I had a miserable youth
But somewhere in my wicked miserable past
There must have been a moment of truth
For here you are standing there loving me
Whether or not you should
So somewhere in my youth or childhood
I must have done something good
Nothing comes from nothing
Nothing ever could
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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5745010 - 06/13/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I feel like the happiest man alive, and sadness plays a big role in that.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5745060 - 06/13/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder how long it would take you to "allow yourself to be happy" if (God forbid) your child was abducted, raped and murdered? Somehow 20-30 minutes of sadness you felt over the dead bird seems unlikely...


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5745539 - 06/13/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't understand your reply. Are you comparing my daughter with a bird? How long would I be sad if I lost my daughter? Silly statement. Who knows how long I would mourn over loosing her before I gave myself permission to feel happiness for other things again?

I am saying, I realize and know that is what it would take if I were to feel it again. Being sad forever 24/7 wouldn't bring her body back to life, is something she wouldn't want to see me put myself through, wouldn't prove how much I love her, and would be a lousy way to honor her memory not to mention, such a low vibe would keep me cut off from continuing to know her in spirit.

I know what it would take to feel good feelings again, don't know when I would exercise that though.


It wasn't a random bird either. We had these two cute ones that lived in a tall bush behind a fence and fed at a bird feeder I have in a garden. We watched them flutter around everyday protecting the bush. I think they had a nest and maybe some baby birds in it. :shrug: We have so few birds as it is in my neighborhood. You just don't hear them. It was so noce to finally have some around singing through the day.

Everything was fine until I let my cat play out there at night. During the day, she never bothered them in attack mode. I didn't think she would just because it was dark.

When I hadn't seen the birds for a few days and then found one dead in the yard, yes I felt sad for about that long. I think I drew them here with the feeder, they came when I put it in, and then, let my cat have at them. :crazy: I felt bad about that, and also because, my cat just treats things like toys when she kills them-(lizards so far) and even those we save from her if we can. It's not like she kills in self defence or for food. It's play to her and the idea of that is disturbing to me.

The thought of keeping her indoors for all of her life is also disturbing to me.

Find a post Hue did a few weeks back called the One River. I wrote in it how I find all of that to be universal nonsense, before this happened. 

I slaved over some other gardens for weeks earlier in the year. Put in 120 impatient flowers as borders too. Lately this armadillo has been digging them up to get to worms and stuff. They are over populated in Florida, considered a menace and not even native to here. If I trap and release it else where, I could get fined for releasing one here if I get caught. I am told I should shoot it. Thats legal. Yet every other morning 4 or 5 more plants are dug up and I have to fix it. Deterrents haven't worked and I just can't bring myself to kill it.

I don't have in in my heart to kill a nuisance over populated menace thats a pain in my ass because I respect life and so yes, a dead bird I a became acquainted with over the last 5 months everyday, being found dead at the hands of my own cat was sad and senseless to me.  I'm out by the pool everyday and they aren't there anymore whistling away.

What was your comment suppose to mean or say? What was its point Lunar?

My replies here haven't been about the nature of sadness, reasons for or justifications for it. It wasn't to say that feeling sad is wrong. Feeling it is a part of life and a natural emotion for a healthy human being to feel. It's different for everyone what will bring it on. Sadness itself is something we also give ourselves permission to feel.

The message was simple. When feeling sad, low and down, "unhappy" and you wish to feel good again, it takes one thing and that is, giving yourself permission too.  I put that out there for anyone who wants out and doesn't know where or what the key is.

I personally prefer to feel good most of the time. It's become easy for me to do that, knowing what the key to it is. I shared that key for anyone interested.

You got a problem with that? :mrt:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5745562 - 06/13/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Being sad forever 24/7 wouldn't bring her body back to life, is something she wouldn't want to see me put myself through, wouldn't prove how much I love her, and would be a lousy way to honor her memory not to mention, such a low vibe would keep me cut off from continuing to know her in spirit.

Indeed. Deep truth. :mushroom2:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: spud]
    #5745838 - 06/13/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

spud said:
Yes!

It somewhat comes in waves, but I find myself the great majority of time extremely happy!



im gonna ditto what spud said, life is to short to be pissed off so im gonna make sure i do something with my life and make a shit load of money so that living and partying after that is easy and worry free.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #5746163 - 06/13/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

life is to short to be pissed off




or the one,

life is to short not to enjoy it to the full.

That expression turned my attitude around a lot after, I turned it around to-

Life is toooooo looooooooooooooooong to be pissed off, feeling like crap or not enjoying it as much as possible.

Think about this. Your at the doctors office getting a medical procedure done and he says,

"This will oooooooonly hurt for a bit." You are like, "Fine, just do it and let's get it over with."

Say he said to you,

"This will oooooooooonly hurt for the next 80 years"

You'd be like, "Are you high on crack dude? :crazy: Get that thing away from me, I'm outta here."

Life is to loooooong to be pissed or in emotional pain and suffering.

We wouldn't go for it in the docs hands so why would we at our own hands?

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5746179 - 06/13/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Did I mention that I am insanely happy? I just can't help it.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5746367 - 06/13/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Did I mention that I am insane

Yes, we heard you the first time. :tongue:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Icelander]
    #5747143 - 06/13/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I feel that I, for the most part, and happy. :grin:

I lead a fufilling, engaged life. I enjoy learning and understanding reality, and to further develop myself. The path of realization is one that I embrace. However, I don't think of it as "happy". Its deeper than that, its being. The mind tends to obstruct that being, and to dissolve these obstructions in the direct perception of reality is rewarding, its gaining one's sense of one's essence, which is awareness.

Awareness just is it, the entirety. :grin:

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5747487 - 06/13/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wal-Mart must have known what they were doing making you security.  Awareness is key... :tongue2:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5747530 - 06/13/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

at the moment, yes. 

things are going pretty well for me

praying against gravity as we speak just to keep the other shoe from dropping. 

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5747546 - 06/13/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Like many have said, my happiness depends on my awareness. In times where I am deeply exploring my spirituality (psycedelic trips, lusic dreams, meditation) I am probably the most happy.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5747753 - 06/13/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

gettinjiggywithit,your last post and longer post in this thread(#5742212) have helped me immensely.Thank you!

The truth is we all know how to be happy and how to fix our own problems.We just lose sight of that.It happens often with me.It seems after a period of time of not exercising that certain way to go about things,I forget what I have been taught.

It just takes something small to get people to realize they already have the power inside themselves to be happy,but we sometimes forget this and need to be reminded of it.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5748128 - 06/14/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hey cool! :cool: I'm "happy" to hear that. :smile: You're so right about how easy it is to forget when the vibe drops. I don't know where I would be without reminders from others that give me lift again when I drop. The buddy system rocks. :thumbup:

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5748133 - 06/14/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

When im trippin. LOL...


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: MisterShroomGuy]
    #5748183 - 06/14/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Make with what you have.

Sadness is required. If I didn't feel grief for losing something in this life, it would be worthless.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: slaphappy]
    #5748224 - 06/14/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sadness is not required at all.

Don't you notice, that when the really good stuff happens in our lives, times of intense love, intense fun, intense excitement, etc., has this more surreal quality to it? And that all the stuff thats sad, makes you angry, feel bad about, feels like it pulls you "back into reality", and that there is this cold, hard, tangible quality to it that you associate with being "more real" for some reason?

Ever imagine that it was actually *the other way around*?

This is the case! We really live in a fluid sensory experience, and the sharp, angular aspects of reality we have created for ourselves was our way of showing that we, our particular civilization, would not be ready to accept reality in the fluid quality it actually has. We have to be more comfortable with not grasping onto everything and assigning it specific locations in our minds, rigid, inflexible locations that lead to construction of rigid, inflexible belief systems and structures.

It's all about stepping over the bridge into dreamland. How?

By constantly observing yourself, and detaching your ego, through the infinity breathing technique. Then floating around in potential evaluation all day without any judgements or opinions unless it is going to help you to get to your future-self quicker. Choose only Happy points, and you will only have happy experiences. Learn how to not to attach a thought to an experience and you become free, and then able to choose what emotions you wish to experience.

It is what the SSUN Project is all about.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Evan_1107]
    #5748292 - 06/14/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you ever had a girlfriend, and you loved her with all your heart, and she dumped you: Your happy-points will keep your spirits up?

You think its fine to be fine with it being fine?

Then why don't you?

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: slaphappy]
    #5748352 - 06/14/06 02:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

slaphappy said:

You have it the wrong way.
You will never understand.
This is wrong.
Breathing techniques is worthless.
Breathing is worthless.





Who decides what the right way is?

I dont think the breathing technique is worthless.Breathing can be perceived as the ebb and flow of life it self.It can be the barrier of realitys for some poeple.

as for the rest of your post.Why so angry? :shrug:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5748406 - 06/14/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, after all this tripping don't tell me that you haven't learnt everyones perception is different?

Love is a drug...When you learn to love yourself first, and love "through" the other person then..You don't need to rely on them for happiness. You seem you have put to much effort in relying on them. Be happy yourself, within, and then you cope easier.

There are no right or wrongs. I Don't even feel sorry for you, because you know there is no point in doing that.

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Why would losing your girlfriend make it worthless? And why is that something you want to feel?>

You rely on your outter world too much for your happiness.

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: Evan_1107]
    #5748460 - 06/14/06 03:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can't believe you start out by saying "don't tell me that you haven't learnt everyones perception is different?" and then proceed to ask me something that had NOTHING to do with what I said.

You prove my point by continuing this bickering. I am not angry. I had a point. You will never understand.

Its not worthless to lose her, the relationship would've been worthless if I didn't feel sad for breaking it up.

Is that so hard to understand, or am I that unbelievably poor at communicating?

I decide what the right way for me is. I decide what I think the right way for you are.

I can see that I need to explain myself:

You will never understand what I say.

I used sarcasm and irony, in an example, to show how I percieved the lack of empathy in specimen Evan_1107. I was never really angry, I just picked up the gauntlet and took it to the next level - to show that Evan wasn't interested in being happy, or happiness at any rate.

Evan was interested in bickering and portraiting himself as somewhat wise and intelligent, and keeps it up, by stating that I rely on my outter world too much for my happiness.

Which is only tools to feed his own happiness, through the ether he steals attention from the outter world. He has been preying on mainstream spirituality for some time now, and this is the time to spew it all back.

Needlessly.

You're not even playing my game, and I'm definately not playing yours.

Edit: Why do you think tripping is the answer, Evan?


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5748980 - 06/14/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I like birds and cats too. I keep my cat inside where he is safe from getting attacked and hurt by other cats, coyotes, mountain lions, etc. that may be out there. He doesn't like being inside but statistically an inside cat lives a lot longer. I have yet to see an inside cat (that didn't make it outside by accident) smashed on the road.

The birds get fed regularly with feeders in open spaces and high enough to hopefully give the birds a chance to see an approaching cat and make their getaway. If a cat can catch a hummingbird, it deserves a prize in any case because that cat is an especially fast and patient cat.

I had a real straggler sickly looking cat in the neighborhood that someone apparently dropped off and it had to try to survive on it's own. I fed it good about 6 times because I felt bad for it. One time after gorging itself it went under the shrub and started attacking birds. I just left it be and felt no anger for the cat's nor sorrow for the bird being chased. However, I did start feeding the cat outside of my fence and as it got warmer stopped feeding him in the hope he could find someone else to take care of him. He wouldn't get close to me as a friend of mine had yelled at him and he apparently associated that with me. Or, has just become feral enough to not come up to people. He needs to be taken to the vet, cleaned up and looked over.

Anyway, my point with the bird and cat story is that we should prepare the best way we can, hope for the best, expect the worst and be accepting of either.

My point about your daughter is that if you lose someone like that in your life, it will create a hole in your heart that won't be replaced, ever. Sadness would be a blessing compared to the wailing sorrow you would feel. I hope you never have to go there, I have and it's not a happy place.

By accepting I mean that "shit happens" but that doesn't mean one should or will have a time limit for sorrow. It might be 20 minutes and it might be for eternity. By accepting I mean I don't go "why, God?" Mine is not to question why, but to do or die...

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #5749349 - 06/14/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Lunar said:

Have a nice day.




I give myself permission every morning to do make my days as nice as I can for myself and others and to let the love that is flow through me best I can. :courtjester: :fairy:

Here's some extra for me to share :sun: :rose: :hug:

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Re: Are you happy? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5749764 - 06/14/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I am not happy and I know why.
That makes me happy :smile:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5749908 - 06/14/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm happy at times, when I succeeded in my endeavors, when I feel tranquil with tranquilizers,Its hard to be constantly happy, I've been this way before and some people are, because they got everything they wanted and are bright enough to enjoy it.


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: slaphappy]
    #5750071 - 06/14/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Slaphappy said:

you fucking bickering stupid attention-demanding piece of stinking dogshit
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Slaphappy said:

I used sarcasm and irony, in an example, to show how I percieved the lack of empathy in specimen Evan_1107. I was never really angry, I just picked up the gauntlet and took it to the next level - to show that Evan wasn't interested in being happy, or happiness at any rate.




So is that how we justify and what we are calling flaming outbursts now? Taking Gauntlets to higher levels?  :confused:

I'm wondering what a percived lack of empathy in someone has to do with thier ability to generate happy/positve states of being?

The post asked, "Are you happy?" not "Are you empathetic?"

Where and how did you show that evan wasn't interested in being happy? I missed that somwhere. All I saw  in Evans reply to you was his reviewing more positive points to consider related to your beleif that saddness is required for happiness.

Happiness is the only thing required for happiness.

Are you feeling okay slapphappy?

On another note, this one was funny and brought some laughter my way-

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Slaphappy said;

Breathing is worthless



:rofl2:

Oooooooookay, let me see if I have your philosphy on happiness straight-

Breathing is worthless and sadness is required.

If I got it right, may I suggest keeping your day job. :wink:

:peace: :heart:


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Re: Are you happy? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5751136 - 06/14/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't mind proving your point everytime I reply. As it is needed to be able to communicate, and get understanding. Can you feel my love guys.  :heart: (No not in the place you were thinking about)  :wink:

Does anyone else get satisfaction or happiness when they have helped someone else become happy? I personally do. :smile: (Yes, even in the way you were thinking as well.)  :tongue:

First of all happiness is an emotion we would all like.  But we should understand how and what emotions really are.

I think therefore I am…

Ie..If you think your confident, you start to act like your confident and the next thing you know people perceive you as being confident then that reinforces what you have thought originally. And this makes you even more confident

Thoughts:

You need to accept a certain degree of principals

1)Thoughts do matter
2)Piecing thoughts together creates Attitudes
3)Attitudes create beliefs
4)Beliefs create perception
5)Perceptions are then how we interact with the world.

Ie How we develop relationships how we make choices.

Understanding what a thought is?
How it is developed?
What happens when a thought is hard wired and becomes a thinking pattern?

Change is one of the most difficult things for humans to embrace!!!!

How thoughts have an effect on our lives, and the goals and dreams we want?

How thoughts effect our physical body?

This Information was taken from A Neurological Radio show, that I wrote down. I will find the exact link later. :thumbup:

If we take a thought and see the atomical make up in the brain and its chemical effects on the body and the effects on the cells that effect the genetics and push the buttons for certain diseases.

Most people think they don’t have control over their attitude and emotions. They think their environment run the way they act and feel. When we start to realise there is a causal element in our nature where we have the ability to be at cause and produce certain effects and master certain particular propensities when we understand that. When understand this, that then, starts separating the person from responding to their environment and responding to the stress orders and stress in their life and allows them to make a decision that they can be in a position to make other choices and when a person does that they start to gain their own personal empowerment and that’s when the journey begins.

Interrupting and stopping those programs that we have been conditioned to has its biological effects. Interrupting certain programs we don’t want by repetition that interruption actually weakens the connections in the brain. And that’s how we change, we stop it from happening. And if we keep doing that it long enough neurologically the connections in our brain weaken. And that long term relationship from one neuron to another starts to fall away and we start to perceive differently, react differently and we start to feel differently and we make different choices.

So it’s sort of like exercising the brain. It is like breaking a habit…ie leaving out food for a period of time.. And there is always the moment we move into that state there is something at stake all the time. There is a chemical now that is not being administered that you are addicted to or a lifestyle that is producing a chemical that your addicted to that your interrupting.

So when that happens there is a little chaos that happens at a cellular level. And the cellular level interacts with the brain and you start having these urges and you start getting these voices saying “Go ahead, maybe today isn’t the best day to quit. Maybe you should start next week, your under a lot of pressure, a lot of stress. All these voices are the foundation of why we even get addicted to something in the first place. So its not an easy journey to break certain patterns, but if we have the ability through specific technology and training where we can enter relaxed states of mind where we can access the sub conscious mind, and when we do that, that allows us to change those negative identifications and associations that give rise to habits and behaviour below the surface. Then when we can do that those are the roots of our behaviour, how we interact and the per sard we present in the world is based on our subconscious mechanisms. If we move into the subconscious mind level then we are able to change all that.


All Emotions Are A Chemical.

Firstly you have to want to change.

The person who is interested to change and producing a different outcome, they will have an inquisitive nature that will give them the ability to start perceiving or looking at things differently.

Human beings are addicted to their emotional states.

The reason it is, if you go to a medical facility and they find certain things wrong like from blood chemistry. More than likely the doctor will tell you there is a element of stress that kicks off this mechanism that allows you to be imbalanced in your body. Now stress is really a response to environmental stimuli and it produces a physiological effect on the body that prepares the body to act on that stimuli.

Now say for example a lion walks through the door right now, immediately certain nervous systems would turn on and we would be prepared to either fight or run. “fight or flight nervous system. The effect from the environment produces a physiological effect in our body and most and creatures have that mechanism and its an automatic mechanism. The moment we perceive something to be a threatening, there is automatic systems that turn on the body to produce certain chemistry, and that chemistry prepares the body to fight or run and that gives the body a surge of adrenaline gives the body a heightened awareness and that is a normal mechanism.

But if we live our day to day life, during that state of mind, we know it has measurable effects on the body. It breaks the immune system down, it causes chronic fatigue, it causes digestive compromise, it causes lack of thinking. The brain starts to shunt blood, to the hind brain instead of the forebrain, where reasoning and planning and decision making takes place and we move to a different part of the brain physiologically where we are reacting.

So there isn’t a lot of thinking going on while we are in stress its more reacting and it has effects on the heart. While those 5 things are basically a description of what our culture suffers from on a daily basis. Lack of energy, immune compromise, from a cold to something worse. Digestive problems, brain fatigue, and the inability to concentrate, and wanting to do something new. Cardio problems. And that is the nature of most of the diseases that take place in our culture.

We in a state of visualense in preparation in anticipation that something is going to happen and our body is prepared for it, and that is not a normal state to be in. And if we live in that state all the time then that can have chemical effects on our body.

How do you integrate that our thoughts have an effect on our body?

Now the way we integrate that is we start using people and places and things and past experiences to associate with a certain emotion. Your mother may make you feel guilty or a your ex boyfriend makes you feel like your not good enough. Because you have had an interaction in the past that person that is tied to that emotion, then the effect is after a period of time we start to rely on these people, past events as almost an excuse, as a way to validate and why we have the emotions.

For example I was brought up that way, or I told I was never good enough, and that’s just the way I am. But the truth is there is this chemical effect produced in the brain. And that effect allows you to feel that emotion. Now the interesting thing is, if we were to ask the person if they wanted to feel guilty all the time, and low self esteem of never feeling good enough, they would say no.

So you would say then why don’t you just change. An addiction is something that we cant stop. An addiction literally means that it has such a craving physiological attachment, that we can’t stop it. The person then has to address why they can’t stop it. Then that guilt or that emotion has literally given them a reason to feel something. And by feeling something those people turn on their nervous systems and they turn on that chemistry and that effect allows them to remember who they are. So they would rather remember who they are and feel something, than feel nothing at all. And if you felt nothing who would you be.

However if you gave the person the opportunity to replace them that emotion with something new, a new dream or new desire, whether is be health, wealth, wisdom, happiness, it doesn’t matter what and they were able to construct an idea and able to subconsciously program it into their brain, then they would be replacing an old state of mind with a new one. And the brain likes that. The brain likes to switch and develop new neurological networks.

So when we have that fight or flight system running all the time and we have certain emotions we can rely on, then why do we have the same job and why do we keep choosing the same relationships and how come nothing new happens, and how come there is no miraculous things happening in our lives, and the truth is the reason why they don’t happen, is because we are so addicted to emotional states, that we cant really facilitate anything new. And we have to make room for new by retiring certain emotions.

Emotions aren’t bad and they aren’t good. They are just this sensual feedback the body gets to integrate from an experience. Whether its touching a rose or smelling a rose or skydiving, it doesn’t matter, there is an effect sensually takes place where all the sensory organs integrate this experience and this is called an emotion. Its an effect. And so emotions are the effects of certain experiences or any experience. Now if we keep experiencing the same emotion on a daily basis it means we are attached to that experience. And we are never having new experiences because new experiences should produce new emotions. So the way we retire those old emotions is to start having new experiences.

And we have to start deciding, what is it that we want? How are we going to get it? What are our Dreams? What are our limitations? And that begins the journey for the person say: (who has been guilty or felt that they are not good enough for however many years) “That is the way I was taught, but I cant blame my mother or my ex boyfriend because if that person walks out of my life that neurological connection network still exists in my brain .And I cant blame that person, because its already wired in there.

So its up to me to change the wiring. Because the truth is I will probably look for that same person so I can feel that same chemistry again. So that’s when it starts to get kind of interesting because we can see our relationships may not actually be built on virtue but they are actually built on some chemical dependency that we get to share with another person, based on some subconscious agreement.

For example: “I will give you guilt if you give me unworthiness and we have a contract and we will keep that contract going. And when your away I miss you, but what I really miss is that chemical hit.”

So it gives the person an understanding when they look and say: “I have hated my boss for the last 10 years, and I don’t like my job, but maybe I’m just so addicted to feeling bad and so addicted to feeling unworthy, then that’s why I have it. And that’s why I have the relationships that I have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So in other words I cant change my environment until I start changing myself from within. And when I start changing myself from within, then I can start having different effects on the outside. And that’s the principals you need to understand. Ie The kingdom of heaven is within you, and you need to start rewiring your thought processes changing your perceptions and changing your attitudes and watching that it has measurable effect on your life. So this way you can see how your thoughts create your reality. And how your thoughts and attitudes effect your world.

We are addicted to emotions because before that we just thought that’s who we are. That’s me. I’m feeling this way, because that’s me. But when you see the pattern and what I just explained there and that knowledge of that is the key. Because then people can begin to see that, if you look at it like an addiction then now its not who you are any longer. Its something you can change and control of that little piece..

The moment you observe that from another point of view then your no longer that emotion, you’re the observer, observing that emotion which that is a program that runs that’s something that you have shaped and developed and kept alive neurologically because it was a means to feel an identity or a personality to feel something.

If we accept our thoughts of things and that they have an effect on our world, then the way it works in society is that there is stimuli that comes from our environment and that stimulus produces a response. And that response is physiological. And because it’s physiological and causes us to think the mere thinking about what just happened produces the same stimulus and we get caught into this loop where nothing new ever happens. And the truth is knowledge has to be introduced and now that it is, it gives us a formulation to change the equation to start to respond differently. Or to start acting differently, or start choosing differently. So knowledge is the key,that gives us enough equipment to start breaking patterns.

Without knowledge we are shooting in the dark basically. We are fighting an enemy that we can’t see. And knowledge gives us enough equipment and enough leverage to be able to address ourselves. And being human is being emotional, that’s really what it means. Being human is being addicted to certain emotions. Because the way it works in evolution is that knowledge equips us for an experience. Experiences produce emotions. Emotions give us understanding. Understanding gives us wisdom. Wisdom causes us to evolve. The evolution then is fed back in knowledge. And we start having new emotions and new experiences. However we live life…experience---emotion….experience----emotion and we are left at the end of the day feeling that same emotion we did the day before, and then we are not even moving. Its just that simple. So understanding we have given ourself permission to have new experiences that there are innumerable experiences we can have that will produce new emotions allows us to retire those old emotions and evolve.


When we live in those emotional states we are equipped for survival. That survival doesn’t really include a lot of reason. It doesn’t include a lot of unlimited perception. Survival means reaction. And that is what the body and the brain is prepared for. So when a person is already in that survival state, in that fight or flight state different neurological networks in the brain are wired together for different personality traits. Whether your patient or impatient whether your unconditional or extremely conditional and judgemental all those are shaped and wired in our life in the part of the brain called the neocortex. And that really defines our personality, identity or alter ego or image of ourself. Now when we start responding to some environmental stimuli we are in survival, that survivalistic state will produce agitation. And that agitation will allow us to be very short with our choices and respond emotionally and chemically.

However if the person is in a state where they are not using “specific” neuro nets in the brain which cause them to be ill tempered, or impatient but are relaxed and are running a completely different set of chemicals then they can perceive that experience differently because we perceive based on how we are wired in our brains. So if we are using a specific neurological network in our brain that’s based on survival then it will respond in survival. Which is usually reaction. If however on the other hand we have a different chemistry running in our body we would perceive the situation completely different. Which would mean that same situation would for example:

“Somebody does something that annoys someone. Where in fact somebody else thinks that same action is cute from that person is cute and funny instead of extremely irritating. And that is an amazing thing because it empowers us with that mysterious thing called free will. And in the scope of the quantum field of potentials we exist in why do we keep choosing the same potentials if we know there are so many potentials available to us? And the truth is that we are so chemically alluded to our bodies.

We make choices with our bodies instead of making choices with our mind. Haha an example on a basic degree is women like to say is that “Guys always think with their dick”

When we are able to start making choices with our minds we have developed enough of an ability to have some mastery over the chemicals in our bodies. And when we do that, that’s called miraculous or mysterious, or supernatural or freedom. And those are the people we secretly most worship. Because they are putting everything at stake and going against immeasurable odds and producing an outcome. Because they are not dependent on their environment. They are not dependent on what their body is doing. They have a concept of ideal they believe in more than anything else. And when we are that aligned to an idea or concept its an amazing mechanism how other aspects start to function start to endorse and support that idea and the reality bends because of it.

So that’s the direction we really want to go but if we are living in that survival state and we are bending an idea and wrapping our mind around an unlimited concept but we are in that state of survival it wouldn’t take too long for us to lose our mark pretty quickly. However if we have developed and shaped our mind to the extent that we understand all the wrong turns and we make none of those turns we start perceiving differently and we start having effects in our world that are completely different that that animalistic tendency to react quickly because we are in survival mode and what do we have to lose, whats going to happen? We cant predict the outcome so I will run a program where I can predict like I will act angry when Im really scared. Those are all survival mechanisms that you run. And that really is no different from a corned dog.

So we are using those same aspects in lower forms of life and we have this huge brain with unlimited potential, and we are running that same program that same exact program. And human beings because we have larger brains we are a little bit more complex modes of survival that we integrate in there, that have to do with recognition and importance and manipulation and stuff but those are just offshoots of a more complex brain. Dogs and other mammals don’t think that way, they make their decisions quickly, while humans seem to complicate it and that’s where they get further entrenched into that state of humanity.

If that is the extent of your understanding on how the world works based on your beliefs and then that becomes an acceptable mode of behaviour. If on the other hand you believe in thought having an effect first of all in the quantum field and having an effect on your body then you will stop reacting start realising your thought was more important than your reaction, when you can do that then your over coming the tendency to respond to your environment, and when you do that and you make thought more real than the environment, that’s when reality starts to change. And that’s when you start seeing your reality change before your very eyes.

The emotions that we are addicted to really have their basis in sexual identity, in pain and suffering, and in power and control and different flavours of that. There are experiences that we haven’t had that allow us to feel new emotions. If these emotions are experienced you feel such a rush of sensory overload than you have ever experienced before and its in describable until you have it.

Every human, despite age, race, gender, culture the common denominator is that all humans are truly divine. And that common denominator is that there is a greatness in every single person. And when people start to understand that the greatness comes from within them and not in some other person, place, thing or event that they are struggling from, they start to understand that they have the resources within them that’s when people start to say Ok now what can I do? How can I do this? And if they accept that there is a higher intelligence that’s running the show and that they are riding in the back seat basically and they are starting to access that intelligence. Well now that means they are having control of their life. And then they can move it into any direction that they want. And that is a life long journey.

The End.

For those of you wondering how to "not care" about something personally. Never blame the person. Always blame their experiences in life.

Ie, A girlfriend who decides to cheat on you, or a friend stabbing you in the back. To not feel anger towards that person, blame their experiences in life that they have had up to that moment because everyones experiences are different and is a factor in deciding whether or not they should or shouldn't.

Love to you all.
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Edited by Evan_1107 (06/14/06 10:15 PM)


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