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OfflineCleft_Asunder
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Why didn't we get very high?
    #5737614 - 06/11/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

My friend and I split an 1/8th of an once between ourselves. This was perhaps double what we had taken a month back. We were expecting visuals, and generally a much stronger experience than when we first did shrooms a year ago. Well, the whole experience was more of a downer than anything, and it didn't last very long.

I noticed that this time around our shrooms had to be harvested sooner, and thus they were smaller. Would that effect potency? The time before this experience --having done LESS mushrooms with were considerably longer of the same strain-- produced a really STRONG effect that lasted 6+ hours, and was extremely enjoyable. We didn't experience visuals on either trip --third eye blockage? Locked in the 5 sense illusion?

Any way, what other factors could it be? We used the PF tek both times and the second time yielded far more mushrooms, going through 4 flushes.

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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #5737692 - 06/11/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

as far as visuals go, you have to take a somewhat higher dose of psilocybin to get OPEN EYE VISUALS (Closed Eye Visuals and more frequent and start at much lower doses).
OEVs, for me anyways, seem to start out as the crawling of surfaces, extreame brightening of colors (even old, dirty cars look shiny and new)...the changing of the size of objects...posters take on a 3D look, noticing repetative geometric patterns in my surroundings....
as visuals increase (along with dose)...objects begin waving like water and shit.
the slightest OEV's don't seem to even really appear until i would say the 1.5 gram range.


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #5737910 - 06/11/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Buddy, you munched 1.75 grams. You wont feel much more than a slight body high and some laughter. It doesnt really take you anywhere.


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #5737971 - 06/11/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm, interesting. So looking at vaults of erowid, 5 grams per person seems to be tops: http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_dose.shtml

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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #5737979 - 06/11/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Guys, is there an easy way to take down mushrooms? I'm reading on Vaults of Erowid that you can chew it and hold it in your mouth. I imagine that it is more potent this way because it enters the bloodstream directly.
Now... I had 2 experiences with LSD to confirm this. The first time, I swallowed the tab. The experience was good but didn't last long. The second time I placed the tab under my tongue for 15-20 minutes. The experience was fantastic, lasting 6-8 hours.

So, in terms of holding shrooms under the tongue, what is an easy way to do this? Obviously 2-5 grams is going to be a little difficult to hold under the tongue, even when cut up.


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #5737989 - 06/11/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Theres many ways to take mushrooms.

Honestly, this talk about chewing your shrooms for 5 minutes and sucking on them for another 10 is just stupid.

Just eat them like you would any food, chew them well and just swallow down with some water.

Personally, I like grinding them up, putting them in a glass of OJ or milk and just chugging them down. You will feel them quicker. But no less than if you chewed them down.


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #5738046 - 06/11/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

A while back I had a flush that I ground up with a coffee grinder and put into gelatin caps. The heat the grinder generated totally KILLED the potency of the mushrooms! So do you have a safe way to grind them?


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #5738052 - 06/11/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Cleft_Asunder said:
Hmmm, interesting. So looking at vaults of erowid, 5 grams per person seems to be tops:
Thanks both of you.




5 dry grams is far from the largest amount one can take...I've done around 7g's...that will definately give some OEV's if they're any good. People have eaten upwards of 30+ dry grams, maybe a lot more, thats just largest I've heard of!


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #5738070 - 06/11/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Cleft_Asunder said:
A while back I had a flush that I ground up with a coffee grinder and put into gelatin caps. The heat the grinder generated totally KILLED the potency of the mushrooms! So do you have a safe way to grind them?




Hmmm, I just read that people make tea out of mushrooms, boiling them and such. Maybe that particular flush was nonpotent. I recall reading that heat kills the potency though...


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5738083 - 06/11/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'd recommend 3.5 to 4 grams for some pretty good OEV, nothing too intense, but definitely some melting and some breathing, with patterns all around.


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #5738087 - 06/11/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

use a hammer.


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #5745325 - 06/13/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i have never noticed the 'heat from the coffee grinder' affecting the potency...  :confused:


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Re: Why didn't we get very high? [Re: TrippingDuality]
    #5772514 - 06/20/06 01:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe the potency was "killed" by the air in the coffee grinder...


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