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WyscuL
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Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request
#5736313 - 06/10/06 11:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi everyone.
I have been on a hunt today (this is my first season) and have found an old small patch of what I am thinking may be P.Subs.
The stems on these older ones had what I would consider a definate blue tinge from the base. But as the stems and caps had aged a fair bit, the blueing was almost 'woody'.
Habitat was leafy Australian bush floor, minimal ground cover, damp under leaves.
Gills are dark and loose, caps look weathered, but I am assuming this is because of their age.
Stem is fibrous and slim. General condition of these would be poor I'd assume!
Here is a pic of one of the possible subs in the ground.
An-attempt-to-get-the-blueing from another possible sub.
A-closeup of the only smaller (dry) one in the patch, with Another-angle to try and get the color of the stem apparent.
Is the gill structure consistent with a p.sub?
A-profile-shot of another sample to try and show the blueing.
Ok, I am getting sporeprints at the moment, but these are the first I have seen in my few hunts that have had prominant blueing (or at least a blueish tinge) on the stem.
I am only concerned due to the age of these ones that I have picked, it is making it hard to reference off 'known pics' bacause I have not seen pictures of old manky ones of similar condition to what we have here!
Thanks to anyone that replies! .. here's hoping that we have lucked out at last!
-W
Edited by WyscuL (06/10/06 11:48 PM)
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: WyscuL]
#5736929 - 06/11/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey, good to see you gave all the right info for an ID 
Your first picture doesnt look like a sub. Its hard to tell as you stated, they are old specimens but the colour of the stem, and the gill structure looks off. If you looked at it horizontally, you can see the gills hanging below the cap and as far as i know this is not consistent with subaeruginosa.
Your second picture im not too sure about, the colour of the gills matches a mature and old sub, however the stem is a bit off, i cant really tell whether its bluing or not, doesnt really look like it from that photo.
Your "closeup" photo and "another angle" photo both look to me like subs. In the closeup, the gill structure matches up, there is apparent bluing and the cap all matches a typical P. Sub. In the "another angle" it also matches a sub, very obvious bluing, same gill structure, and on the stipe you can see some spore desposits which from the photo looks to be a purple/brown which again, matches up with a P.Sub.
It looks like you do have some subs there, but defenitely wait for the result of spore print, and some other peoples opinions.
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WyscuL
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: DepthToTheCore]
#5737177 - 06/11/06 03:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the input.
The 'close up' and 'another angle' are of the same mushroom specimen. It looks like a much younger mushroom that has dried up and not been able to fully mature (or something) 
The blueing has been hard to capture on my phone camera, but is quite obvious to the naked eye.
The others were in the same small patch and are definately stem-tinged blue. But i am very unsure about the low hanging gills. The larger ones are old as the hills and fairly close to unusable. But the stem size and blueing is fairly consistent dispite the gill differences.
Here is a pic of the caps of the older ones
Sporeprints are purple on both 'types' (low gill larger ones and smaller example - 'close-up')
Hope anyone may be able to clarify about the old gill structure as they age?
-W
Edited by WyscuL (06/11/06 03:59 AM)
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: WyscuL]
#5737209 - 06/11/06 04:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmm, that pictures makes a difference. They defenitely look like subs. Only you can be sure of the bluing, so if you are 110% sure it is blue, and you are positive of the spore print colour on EVERY specimen then im confident to say that you have P. Subaeruginosa.
However, i'd still wait for someone elses opinion. Im fairly sure but it cant hurt.
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: DepthToTheCore]
#5739858 - 06/11/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey all, this is ma first post! Yeah i second that, the picture you last posted contained an image of a dried mushroom cap that i would have to say is a subaeruginosa. I am from South-West Vic, so in comparison to what i have seen here, they look like subs, just quite old and dry. As an example i have included this picture of some subs collected in south-west vic by me, to show the varying look and size of the local subs.
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WyscuL
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: DepthToTheCore]
#5740560 - 06/12/06 01:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
the_notorious said: Hmm, that pictures makes a difference. They defenitely look like subs. Only you can be sure of the bluing, so if you are 110% sure it is blue, and you are positive of the spore print colour on EVERY specimen then im confident to say that you have P. Subaeruginosa.
However, i'd still wait for someone elses opinion. Im fairly sure but it cant hurt.
Thanks for the advice again!
(n00b question alert)
I was very confident of the blueing on the stem all yesterday, but how blue should 'blue' be? ..
The blueing is a blue tinged grey - from the base up, very similar to what I have seen in online pics of most common p.subs, but not to the extent of some peoples better examples (usually pins).
-W
Edited by WyscuL (06/12/06 03:30 AM)
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WyscuL
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: UndaKrust]
#5740596 - 06/12/06 01:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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UndaKrust said: Hey all, this is ma first post! Yeah i second that, the picture you last posted contained an image of a dried mushroom cap that i would have to say is a subaeruginosa. I am from South-West Vic, so in comparison to what i have seen here, they look like subs, just quite old and dry. As an example i have included this picture of some subs collected in south-west vic by me, to show the varying look and size of the local subs.
thanks for the pic! early postings for me too. 
SE vic for me to, so it helps to see what the local p.subs can look like!
Mine are definately super old and dry, not really the best for an ID!
Thanks for the help!
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: WyscuL]
#12914519 - 07/18/10 07:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey man I would just like to know if your still shrooming? If you are I know this sound really random and weird but im also from SE suburbs melbourne and was wondering mabye if I could grab ur facebook or somthing and meet up and pick together so I know what I'm picking. I've picked subs like the ones in the picture but i ran them under water and they became black so i got a bit sick from that or mabye I picked a poisonous one witht them. Anywai i'm really not a weirdo even though it sounds like it though asking you all this straight up but i'd rather be frank then misleading. I really like to trip but i dont want to pick a poisnous mushroom and die. thanks for your time if you respond or read this. peace
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Re: Sothern Vic - AU - P.Sub ID request [Re: Petahsz]
#12914530 - 07/18/10 07:42 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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You are violating the forum rules. Asking for hunting partners is not allowed. Besides that, nobody is going to trust someone asking to hook up for finding illegal substances on their first post.
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