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Does anyone hate politics?
    #5735706 - 06/10/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ive noticed the older you get, the more involved people get into politics. It discust me. When my friends or family start talking politics, I leave. There is no human solution to please everyone, imho. I dont even watch the Daily Show anymore.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735718 - 06/10/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yep :smirk:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735719 - 06/10/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

pff, politics, that's sooo second circuit.  :smirk:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735723 - 06/10/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

To paraphrase the late Charles Bukowski,

I don't hate politics, but I generally feel better when it isn't around...

PS: I actually like the Daily Show, and especially, the Colbert Report, because they actually make politics fun, and that's a rare thing! :laugh:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735726 - 06/10/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't converse about politics or religion, with people often
It's just pointless IMO


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735727 - 06/10/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I love politics...

what you must realize is that everything cycles... right now we have a cocksucker in office who is fucking shit up, but in ten years we will have a great president who builds it back up, and then we will get another cocksucker down the line to fuck it up all over again...

I hate politicians for selling OUR OIL in Alaska to Japan... for $90 a barrel... we as citizens do not get any of that oil... fuckers...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Kerbouchard]
    #5735743 - 06/10/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's more like a love/hate relationship,


Or like a moth that is irresistible to fly into fire.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735744 - 06/10/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You'd hate me if you met me. My favorite things to discuss are politics, religion, and philosophy. If it ain't controversial, I don't wanna hear it.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5735746 - 06/10/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

what kind of stupid question is that? 90% of stoners hate politics


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: DrunkenAttempt]
    #5735754 - 06/10/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what kind of stupid question is that? 90% of stoners hate politics



Which is why weed will never be legalized.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Jim]
    #5735759 - 06/10/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I still watch the Colbert Report, he is funny and makes fun of all politicians. I used to love Jon Stewart, but now he has become someone promoting what he believes and not doing "fake news" like he used to. I will still watch it every now and then, but because the only people that have the right to talk about such subjects are comedians, imo. Because they dont take it seriously.
And to what Jim said, how will that really effect me, I dont think it will, so why should I care?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: DrunkenAttempt]
    #5735761 - 06/10/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what kind of stupid question is that? 90% of stoners hate politics



I am not a stoner.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: DrunkenAttempt]
    #5735762 - 06/10/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what kind of stupid question is that? 90% of stoners hate politics




I beg to differ


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735766 - 06/10/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what kind of stupid question is that? 90% of stoners hate politics



I am not a stoner.





I am a stoner in a big way, and it's more addicting then......


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735796 - 06/10/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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And to what Jim said, how will that really effect me, I don't think it will, so why should I care?




about the oil?

why do we buy it from those Arab motherfuckers when we have it here in the US?
The answer?

Our politicians are getting fucking wealthy..

do they really need to turn a quarterly profit of $100Billion?
They could easily make that $60 Billion and reduce price to consumers at the pump by $.80 a gallon...

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Jim]
    #5735800 - 06/10/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Did you know Dick Cheney only gave 2.2 percent of his income to the poor? Wow, a really good example to set for the rest of the country.

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Jim]
    #5735803 - 06/10/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

what will caring about it do, other than piss you off?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: lsdandfrisbee]
    #5735805 - 06/10/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i thought he was a bible thumper... what about the 10%(?) in the bible?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735808 - 06/10/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what will caring about it do, other than piss you off?



Maybe inspire you to do something about it? :shrug:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735811 - 06/10/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it will do more than being a lazy passive piece of shit...

if no one cares, nothing will change...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: lsdandfrisbee]
    #5735814 - 06/10/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Did you know Dick Cheney only gave 2.2 percent of his income to the poor? Wow, a really good example to set for the rest of the country.

Fuckin Republicans



So if I give 2.2 %, I can shoot my best friend in the face? Sweet.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Jim]
    #5735822 - 06/10/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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what you must realize is that everything cycles... right now we have a cocksucker in office who is fucking shit up, but in ten years we will have a great president who builds it back up, and then we will get another cocksucker down the line to fuck it up all over again...




Tru Dat...

It's cyclical, like fashion. I've got a warehouse full of Nehru Jackets I'm hoping to make a killing on someday... :wink:

Seriously, I agree about the cyclicality of it.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5735829 - 06/10/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I originally wanted to be a politician...

but then I found god, in the form of drugs...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: lsdandfrisbee]
    #5735868 - 06/10/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Did you know Dick Cheney only gave 2.2 percent of his income to the poor? Wow, a really good example to set for the rest of the country.

Fuckin Republicans






More then I would give,


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Jim]
    #5735884 - 06/10/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, they won't let you get elected if you've done a lot of drugs, unless you're a republican like Bush, and then it seems to be ok... :smirk:

In a way, I'm glad he broke the ice that way. After the "W," I don't think prior drug use will be as much of an issue as it has been in the past...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5735886 - 06/10/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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lsdandfrisbee said:
Did you know Dick Cheney only gave 2.2 percent of his income to the poor? Wow, a really good example to set for the rest of the country.

Fuckin Republicans






More then I would give,




Yeah most people. But the Vice-Prez. I dont except people to give a lot, but Mr. Vice President can afford to give more.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735894 - 06/10/06 10:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

By complaining that you don't like politics, you just spawned conversation about politics. :lol:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5735907 - 06/10/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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By complaining that you don't like politics, you just spawned conversation about politics. :lol:




Yeah, I just looked up "irony" at Wikipedia and all they had was a link to this thread... :wink:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5735915 - 06/10/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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By complaining that you don't like politics, you just spawned conversation about politics. :lol:



I did realize this when I started posting, but we aren't debating the politics, we are talking about if we care for them.  But yes, I am nuts like that.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5735923 - 06/10/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Papaver said:
Quote:

eris said:
By complaining that you don't like politics, you just spawned conversation about politics. :lol:




Yeah, I just looked up "irony" at Wikipedia and all they had was a link to this thread... :wink:


lol :tongue2:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5735944 - 06/10/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the senator dont need no drug program, he's been a dope head for thirty years...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735983 - 06/10/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ive noticed the older you get, the more involved people get into politics.  It discust me.  When my friends or family start talking politics, I leave.  There is no human solution to please everyone, imho.  I dont even watch the Daily Show anymore.




You could  move to Turkmenistan.  Then you wouldn't have to worry about anything.  :sun:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5735986 - 06/10/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, they won't let you get elected if you've done a lot of drugs, unless you're a republican like Bush, and then it seems to be ok... :smirk:






Yes your right, it is much better to lie about it like  I never inhaled


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5735998 - 06/10/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I did realize this when I started posting, but we aren't debating the politics, we are talking about if we care for them.




I understand what you meant.. I'm not too fond of talking about politics myself. I talk about it with my family sometimes, but they usually are the ones who bring it up.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736036 - 06/10/06 10:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Clinton was too much of a palsy to inhale...

I believe him...


:lol:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736068 - 06/10/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Papaver said:
Yeah, they won't let you get elected if you've done a lot of drugs, unless you're a republican like Bush, and then it seems to be ok... :smirk:





Yes your right, it is much better to lie about it like  I never inhaled




I injected, but I never pushed the plunger... :wink:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: lsdandfrisbee]
    #5736069 - 06/10/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
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lsdandfrisbee said:
Did you know Dick Cheney only gave 2.2 percent of his income to the poor? Wow, a really good example to set for the rest of the country.

Fuckin Republicans






More then I would give,




Yeah most people. But the Vice-Prez. I dont except people to give a lot, but Mr. Vice President can afford to give more.





I misspoke, I meant if I was him. I am not a socialist, and only a republican by default,


I want to bring back the Whigs party dammit!!!!


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736076 - 06/10/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Papaver said:
Quote:

Snaggletooth said:
Quote:

Papaver said:
Yeah, they won't let you get elected if you've done a lot of drugs, unless you're a republican like Bush, and then it seems to be ok... :smirk:





Yes your right, it is much better to lie about it like  I never inhaled




I injected, but I never pushed the plunger... :wink:





hahah you get it,  :thumbup:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736093 - 06/10/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's all about plausible deniability...

And what their definition of "is" is...

Follow the money...

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736155 - 06/10/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"plausible deniability"


That is one of my favorite phrases,

Along the lines of

Dogma

Infallibility of the Church

Transubstantiation


I love meaningless big words, ahahah


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736251 - 06/10/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Dammit, will yall keep the politics out of my politics thread!?!


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5736267 - 06/10/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't cause any political controversy in your thread :wink:






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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5736270 - 06/10/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

See what I mean? :grin:

Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736276 - 06/10/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Fine,


yes/no  :tongue:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736279 - 06/10/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Nah, I dont care. lol. This is very funny though.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736292 - 06/10/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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See what I mean? :grin:

Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!





I need not to post about politics, I cant control myself,

That's why I dont even view the political forum, and further I should be permaban from that forum.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736352 - 06/10/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!




I dunno, that's awful political...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736420 - 06/11/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!




I dunno, that's awful political...


Yeah, didnt I say keep that crap outta here?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736429 - 06/11/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ironically, that same course of action would be very pleasing to a socialist government.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5736534 - 06/11/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ironically, that same course of action would be very pleasing to a socialist government.




I propose we form a new political party. The Ironists!


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736563 - 06/11/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ironically, that same course of action would be very pleasing to a socialist government.




I propose we form a new political party. The Ironists!


That might be something I would be interested in.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5736581 - 06/11/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wtf is politics?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: faslimy]
    #5736756 - 06/11/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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wtf is politics?




:thumbup:

Yeah, somebody define "politics".  I find that most disagreements about politics arise from a misunderstanding of what "politics" is/are.  So wtf is politics?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: quillini]
    #5736815 - 06/11/06 01:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've always felt that politics occurs whenever you have three people or more. Because politics requires two people with differing views, and at least one more person for them to try and manipulate...

It seems to be, at its core, to do with the art of social manipulation to advance either an agenda, a career, or both...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736841 - 06/11/06 01:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well if you want to get philosophical, like the social science or human / animals behavior,

But 95% of the time it's good old bickering about the government.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736848 - 06/11/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the affairs between the countries of the world

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Atheist]
    #5736887 - 06/11/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

True, but you can also have politics occur in the office...

It's also true that "politics" also involves people discussing their beliefs...

I still generally see it as a polar divide which leads to the manipulation of third parties, but that's just my view and it doesn't really account for the discussion/bickering factor as mentioned by SnaggleTooth...

here's what Webster has to say about it:

Main Entry: pol·i·tics
Pronunciation: 'pä-l&-"tiks
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Etymology: Greek politika, from neuter plural of politikos political
1 a : the art or science of government b : the art or science concerned with guiding or influencing governmental policy c : the art or science concerned with winning and holding control over a government
2 : political actions, practices, or policies
3 a : political affairs or business; especially : competition between competing interest groups or individuals for power and leadership (as in a government) b : political life especially as a principal activity or profession c : political activities characterized by artful and often dishonest practices
4 : the political opinions or sympathies of a person
5 a : the total complex of relations between people living in society b : relations or conduct in a particular area of experience especially as seen or dealt with from a political point of view <office politics>

I guess I tend to lean towards 3 & 5...

It's obviously a very large word, which encompasses a lot of territory...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736891 - 06/11/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So...the question is, does anyone hate the art of social manipulation to advance either an agenda, a career, or both...?

Is social manipulation unessential to life? Is social manipulation evil? Is advancing an agenda or a career evil?

What about laws, which manipulate society to advance an agenda of an organized society? Are they worth anything?

Is a government worth it? Is voting worth it? Is debate worth it?

If there is no solution that will please everybody, is it not possible that still there are some solutions that are better than others? And what is better? Is it worth it to give a fuck?

Or is it all relative?

If it's all relative then fuck it. Rape nuns and eat babies, who gives a fuck?

But then relativism is itself relative.

And then you stop existing.

And zombies eat your brain.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: quillini]
    #5736909 - 06/11/06 01:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yes and no,

But we all prescribe to it, actively or not.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: quillini]
    #5736910 - 06/11/06 01:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Zombies Ate My Brain!™ :grin:

I imagine that those zombies could get into some pretty heated political debates about who's going to eat what brain and when. Sort of taking politics to the next level in an infinitely nested group of sets and sub-sets...

So I guess that it's impossible to escape politics as long as sentient beings are involved...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5736931 - 06/11/06 02:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I hate politicians.

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: gregorio]
    #5736937 - 06/11/06 02:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I hate pelicans.

:wexican:






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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736942 - 06/11/06 02:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'd like to see you say that to a pelican's face...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736946 - 06/11/06 02:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Same thing.

They are both infested with parasites.

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736948 - 06/11/06 02:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736972 - 06/11/06 02:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How long have you been waiting to use that picture? :grin:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736980 - 06/11/06 02:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Never saw it before,

Type in pelican funny into Google,

I'm just fast and good :wink:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736991 - 06/11/06 02:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:wink:

Yes, you have to be pretty quick on the old google image search at the shroomery...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736998 - 06/11/06 02:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I loved Get Smart


Can you hear me now  :tongue2:


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