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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736251 - 06/10/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Dammit, will yall keep the politics out of my politics thread!?!


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5736267 - 06/10/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't cause any political controversy in your thread :wink:






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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5736270 - 06/10/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

See what I mean? :grin:

Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736276 - 06/10/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Fine,


yes/no  :tongue:


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736279 - 06/10/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Nah, I dont care. lol. This is very funny though.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736292 - 06/10/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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See what I mean? :grin:

Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!





I need not to post about politics, I cant control myself,

That's why I dont even view the political forum, and further I should be permaban from that forum.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: eris]
    #5736352 - 06/10/06 11:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!




I dunno, that's awful political...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736420 - 06/11/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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eris said:
Just post about whether you like politics or not guys!




I dunno, that's awful political...


Yeah, didnt I say keep that crap outta here?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736429 - 06/11/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ironically, that same course of action would be very pleasing to a socialist government.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5736534 - 06/11/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ironically, that same course of action would be very pleasing to a socialist government.




I propose we form a new political party. The Ironists!


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736563 - 06/11/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ironically, that same course of action would be very pleasing to a socialist government.




I propose we form a new political party. The Ironists!


That might be something I would be interested in.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Vico]
    #5736581 - 06/11/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wtf is politics?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: faslimy]
    #5736756 - 06/11/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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wtf is politics?




:thumbup:

Yeah, somebody define "politics".  I find that most disagreements about politics arise from a misunderstanding of what "politics" is/are.  So wtf is politics?


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: quillini]
    #5736815 - 06/11/06 01:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've always felt that politics occurs whenever you have three people or more. Because politics requires two people with differing views, and at least one more person for them to try and manipulate...

It seems to be, at its core, to do with the art of social manipulation to advance either an agenda, a career, or both...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736841 - 06/11/06 01:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well if you want to get philosophical, like the social science or human / animals behavior,

But 95% of the time it's good old bickering about the government.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5736848 - 06/11/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the affairs between the countries of the world

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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Atheist]
    #5736887 - 06/11/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

True, but you can also have politics occur in the office...

It's also true that "politics" also involves people discussing their beliefs...

I still generally see it as a polar divide which leads to the manipulation of third parties, but that's just my view and it doesn't really account for the discussion/bickering factor as mentioned by SnaggleTooth...

here's what Webster has to say about it:

Main Entry: pol·i·tics
Pronunciation: 'pä-l&-"tiks
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Etymology: Greek politika, from neuter plural of politikos political
1 a : the art or science of government b : the art or science concerned with guiding or influencing governmental policy c : the art or science concerned with winning and holding control over a government
2 : political actions, practices, or policies
3 a : political affairs or business; especially : competition between competing interest groups or individuals for power and leadership (as in a government) b : political life especially as a principal activity or profession c : political activities characterized by artful and often dishonest practices
4 : the political opinions or sympathies of a person
5 a : the total complex of relations between people living in society b : relations or conduct in a particular area of experience especially as seen or dealt with from a political point of view <office politics>

I guess I tend to lean towards 3 & 5...

It's obviously a very large word, which encompasses a lot of territory...


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: Papaver]
    #5736891 - 06/11/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So...the question is, does anyone hate the art of social manipulation to advance either an agenda, a career, or both...?

Is social manipulation unessential to life? Is social manipulation evil? Is advancing an agenda or a career evil?

What about laws, which manipulate society to advance an agenda of an organized society? Are they worth anything?

Is a government worth it? Is voting worth it? Is debate worth it?

If there is no solution that will please everybody, is it not possible that still there are some solutions that are better than others? And what is better? Is it worth it to give a fuck?

Or is it all relative?

If it's all relative then fuck it. Rape nuns and eat babies, who gives a fuck?

But then relativism is itself relative.

And then you stop existing.

And zombies eat your brain.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: quillini]
    #5736909 - 06/11/06 01:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yes and no,

But we all prescribe to it, actively or not.


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Re: Does anyone hate politics? [Re: quillini]
    #5736910 - 06/11/06 01:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Zombies Ate My Brain!™ :grin:

I imagine that those zombies could get into some pretty heated political debates about who's going to eat what brain and when. Sort of taking politics to the next level in an infinitely nested group of sets and sub-sets...

So I guess that it's impossible to escape politics as long as sentient beings are involved...


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