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"Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi"
#5735101 - 06/10/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Set to debut in theaters in July, the documentary 'America: From Freedom to Fascism' recounts how our government is abandoning the constitutional framework of liberty.
I am definitely going to go see this. 
Watch the trailer here:
http://www.freedomtofascism.com
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735147 - 06/10/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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looks excellent.. incase you havent seen it, there is a 36 minute interview with the fellow making the film, aaron russo..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3254488777215293198&q=freedom+fascism
Edited by immaculate (06/10/06 07:05 PM)
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735177 - 06/10/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Indeed, looks like quite a good flick. Hopefully presenting this information in an easily digestable format will help wake the sheep the fuck up.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735184 - 06/10/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi"
So it makes Farenheit 911 better?
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735198 - 06/10/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silversoul said:
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"Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi"
So it makes Farenheit 911 better?
This is merely a quote I have taken from a CBS reporter. Whether the movie is better or not, I do not know. Why don't you find out yourself?
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735201 - 06/10/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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On glancing at the trailers, I see it's produced by Aaron Russo, who is the Libertarian Party's resident nutball(and that's saying something). Still, it looks interesting, but I'll take it no more seriously than any of Moore's films.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735204 - 06/10/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It thought it sounded fuckin bunk until I saw the trailors.......... I want to see this now!
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: browndustin]
#5735213 - 06/10/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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browndustin said: It thought it sounded fuckin bunk until I saw the trailors.......... I want to see this now!
It looks like they spend a lot of time trying to say that federal income taxes are illegal. Apparently these people never read the 16th Amendment.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735214 - 06/10/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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check out the interview with him.. its pretty interesting.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735218 - 06/10/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: I'll take it no more seriously than any of Moore's films.
No matter how compelling a filmmaker communicates real-world issues, a movie will always remain what it is: entertainment.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735220 - 06/10/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silversoul said:
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"Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi"
So it makes Farenheit 911 better?
Damn, I went in this thread with the intention to post the exact same thing.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: domite]
#5735229 - 06/10/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not expecting to become all gung-ho about shit, I don't even live in america or know much about you's guys. I think it'll be a rad movie worth seeing
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735254 - 06/10/06 07:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Farenheit 911 comparison keeps looking more and more appropriate. I'm going to officially label Aaron Russo as the libertarian Michael Moore(with not quite as much charisma). This whole movie is starting to look like a badly done, over-the-top commercial for the Libertarian Party.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735298 - 06/10/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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its more about the big banks and how they have a great measure of control over the government.. he explains it here, in this wonderful 36 minute interview. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3254488777215293198&q=freedom+fascism
edit: also it talks about how there is no income tax law.. which is very true..
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: immaculate]
#5735318 - 06/10/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Excellent interview.
And Micheal Moore has charisma? He's a fat goofy nerd.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: immaculate]
#5735322 - 06/10/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Certainly he brings up legitimate issues, but with ridiculous levels of hyperbole. He does a disservice to his own side by making it look ridiculous.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735370 - 06/10/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: Certainly he brings up legitimate issues, but with ridiculous levels of hyperbole. He does a disservice to his own side by making it look ridiculous.
I don't think that Michael Moore does as much as a disservice to himself as he does to the real issues of 911 by portraying the head of the executive branch as just a negligent leader who merely made some "bad decisions". He may have highlighted the foreknowledge of the attacks but never once addressed the possibility of intentionality on the side of our government. This is where my respect for Moore starts to fade.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735373 - 06/10/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually, I was referring to Aaron Russo, but the same goes for Moore.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735551 - 06/10/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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indeed. the problem with the whold "america is becoming fascist" thing is that it does seem pretty ridiculous if you dont know the litany of facts that point to why it could be true.
it is hard to make a convincing argument without coming off as a nut - look at people like alex jones. he has a world of hard facts, but he is so off the wall in reporting them, the only people who take him seriously are the ones who are starving to believe him, or know the scope of factual information he relies on to make his assertions.
people are not willing to "look at facts that are presented, and seperate them from the hyperbole." they want to either: be convinced, or believe what they want.
changing a persons media/government/establishment paradigm is extremely difficult.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735565 - 06/10/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think moore is a hack. this left/right issue is so divisionary as to be silly. you would think people would catch onto it by now..
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735577 - 06/10/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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looks like a good movie
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: immaculate]
#5735694 - 06/10/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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immaculate said: this left/right issue is so divisionary as to be silly. you would think people would catch onto it by now..
silly indeed yet also dangerous. a split mind is a schizophrenic mind.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: dr_gonz]
#5735748 - 06/10/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hrm... HRM... HRM!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Scarey, added a banner to weedspeak for it.
So do I no longer have to pay income taxes?
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735764 - 06/10/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Simply because he's a "nutball" doesn't mean that there isn't a grain of possible truth there. And it's from tiny little grains of possibility that mighty black pearls of evil can be formed...
We need to be ever vigilant, against the perpetual possibility of tyranny!
I think conspiracy theories are great, because they are conceptual "indicator species." They are like the little dying tree frogs, which need to be picked up and examined to see what might be going wrong with things.
And, they are also highly entertaining!
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: dr_gonz]
#5735767 - 06/10/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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er how do I add that banner as a clickable link in my sig...
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Papaver]
#5735771 - 06/10/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Papaver said: Simply because he's a "nutball" doesn't mean that there isn't a grain of possible truth there. And it's from tiny little grains of possibility that mighty black pearls of evil can be formed...
We need to be ever vigilant, against the perpetual possibility of tyranny!
I think conspiracy theories are great, because they are conceptual "indicator species." They are like the little dying tree frogs, which need to be picked up and examined to see what might be going wrong with things.
And, they are also highly entertaining!
I won't argue with that. I think there's certainly going to be some good stuff in this film, but I'll take it with a grain of salt.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: dr_gonz]
#5735786 - 06/10/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dr_gonz said: Fuck all that. I'm not really diggin the whole microchip idea
What do you not 'dig' about radio frequency identification?
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735787 - 06/10/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Papaver said: Simply because he's a "nutball" doesn't mean that there isn't a grain of possible truth there. And it's from tiny little grains of possibility that mighty black pearls of evil can be formed...
We need to be ever vigilant, against the perpetual possibility of tyranny!
I think conspiracy theories are great, because they are conceptual "indicator species." They are like the little dying tree frogs, which need to be picked up and examined to see what might be going wrong with things.
And, they are also highly entertaining!
I won't argue with that. I think there's certainly going to be some good stuff in this film, but I'll take it with a grain of salt.
Hehehe... We might both be guilty of over-using the "grain" metaphors...
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: theuser]
#5735793 - 06/10/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The code is:
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[url=http://www.freedomtofascism.com/][image]http://www.freedomtofascism.com/images/banners/banner_liberty_468x60.jpg[/image][/url]
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Papaver]
#5735797 - 06/10/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Papaver said: Hehehe... We might both be guilty of over-using the "grain" metaphors...
Well, that's the way the cookie crumbles. 
I propose a toast to overused metaphors.
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: theuser]
#5735804 - 06/10/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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theuser said: er how do I add that banner as a clickable link in my sig...
simply type
[url(equals)link to website][image]link to image[/image][/url]
No spaces between the brackets and of course replace (equals) with its actual symbol, i couldnt figure out how else to post it without having it change the sentence into a link.
EDIT: Nevermind theuser did a better job
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5735835 - 06/10/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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so anyone find a torrent for this movie yet?
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Re: "Makes Fahrenheit911 look like Bambi" [Re: Silversoul]
#5735846 - 06/10/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very well. A Toast! 

*From a very old Rocky Horror Picture Show thread at the Shroomery...
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