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InvisibleBurke Dennings
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Harassment and slander by a moderator.
    #5733626 - 06/10/06 09:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

One of your moderators, a member named 'Magash', left a rating for me suggesting that I am a pedophile.  This is untrue, harrassing, and
slanderous.  I would greatly appreciate it if one of you fine admins would please edit the rating (I don't care about the one shroom, it's the comment that bothers me), and reprimand/ban Magash as you see fit.  Thanks in advance.

I know you guys prefer these matters to be handled via support ticket, but I made one last night and no one has responded.  I'm sure the administrative staff holds it's moderators to a certain standard, and I hope this is not tolerable behavior, as it wouldn't be allowed by a regular user.  :peace:


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5733669 - 06/10/06 10:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Such harsh accusations cannot be tolerated on this website.It is wrong for things like this to go unnoticed.Whether magash be joking or not(he clearly states he isn't joking) it just isn't right.There can be serious repercussions to things like this.

People should not go around loosely throwing the word pedophile around.There is a big difference between making a funny picture about someone, and flat out labeling them a pedophile.

Just because this was committed by a mod does not mean it should be ignored.There are some really good,intelligent and fair admins on this website and I know it wont be ignored based on that fact alone.


I dont know what else to say.I said bassically what I said in the rating I gave Magash early this morning.I feel strongly about this and support Burke here.

Something should be done.If it was member commiting this act,he/she would be immediately banned sitewide,and the rating deleted or the content changed.


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Edited by aNeway2sayHooray (06/10/06 10:08 AM)


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5733699 - 06/10/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you for your support, friend.  :heart:


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5733734 - 06/10/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Any sane person,whether they like you personally or not would do and say the same things.When something is obviously going wrong,it is our duty as members of this community to see that it gets taken care of properly.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5733759 - 06/10/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I agree :thumbup:


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5733848 - 06/10/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The "slander" rule is kind of dumb. Why can't we accuse eachother of being pedo's?
You can call someone a Donky Fucker, or claim they ream Julia Childs corpse, but its suddenly a serious offence to say that Anno likes small children?


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5733913 - 06/10/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Take a look at the rating that is in question here.It isn't a joke,it is a serious accusation.

Such accusations can get and have gotten people banned before.Plus there is no telling what other problems it can cause for the person being accused.

It being a joke,sure,no harm no foul eh?But when a person is suppose to show responsibility on this website but goes around calling people pedophiles and stresses how he is not joking,well that is completely different.Personally I dont want a person who talks this sort of shit without any proof or reasoning behind his words moderating myself or any of my friends on this message board.

This isn't some flame war or name calling in the pub or OTD.This is about allot more then someone getting butt hurt.

This is a community,allot of us meet each other in real life.What magash has done is no different than someone printing off a letter saying a neighbor is a sexual predator and passing them out around their neighborhood.


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Mad_Larkin said:  Death is just a thang.
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MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5733937 - 06/10/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i would say that it take a while for a support ticket to be responded to, you really should just wait for the adminsn to handle this


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5733949 - 06/10/06 11:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Don't read into this internet thing to seriously.
Unless Megash gives some kind of evidence that whats his face is a pedo, i'm not going to worry about the guy.
Now if somebody posts those pictures of Anno banging children, than that would be cause for action.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5733957 - 06/10/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

He cant provide evidence,thats the problem.

Can you not understand that whats his face :rolleyes: and others have been banned for this same thing in the past?


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Mad_Larkin said:  Death is just a thang.
:clementine:
MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5733961 - 06/10/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thats the only thing there is to do zippoz,is wait for an admin to take care of the problem.

I am just voicing my opinion on the matter as dreamer here has done.

:smile:


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Mad_Larkin said:  Death is just a thang.
:clementine:
MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5733967 - 06/10/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dreamer987 said:
Don't read into this internet thing to seriously.
Unless Megash gives some kind of evidence that whats his face is a pedo, i'm not going to worry about the guy.
Now if somebody posts those pictures of Anno banging children, than that would be cause for action.




The fact of the matter is that the mods and admins of this site can't operate under a double-standard.

When people were accusing 40oz of being a pedophile, they were banned. Not for days. For months.

Playing favorites sucks.

edit: I am in no way implying I think Magash should be banned for the rating.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5733986 - 06/10/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No i dig, i'm just saying that the rule is dumb. Mabey its time to re-think it.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5733991 - 06/10/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug: I think pedophiles are pretty much the lowest form of human life, so I don't really mind the issue being taken seriously.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5733993 - 06/10/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
:shrug: I think pedophiles are pretty much the lowest form of human life, so I don't really mind the issue being taken seriously.




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Mad_Larkin said:  Death is just a thang.
:clementine:
MrJellineck said:  Profits, prophets. That's all you jews think about.
sheekle said: life is drugs... and music... and cat... :snowman:


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #5734008 - 06/10/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Leave Magash alone you rabel rousers. :thumbdown: Fucking jealous cretins.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5734020 - 06/10/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Were all adults here (technically speaking)
As adults, we should be able to distinguish between what is hearsay, and what is fact. If you can accuse another shroomerite of any number of things without any actual evidence, than you should be able to call them a Michael Jackson, or an Anno as well.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5734190 - 06/10/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I can't believe a moderator would do something like this. I've seen what I'd call some questionable decisions by people on this site before but nothing like this. This is very appalling. It's not like he's just breaking balls or something, he makes it a point to say he is being serious about his false statements. It'd be different if it was blatantly obvious he was joking, or he said it in OTD, but that's not the case here. Such slanderous remarks should not be tolerated. :thumbdown::thumbdown:

A couple of people including myself were banned for blatantly joking on another member in OTD. This seems to be much more severe than that. Why should this be tolerated? To hell with double standards.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5734216 - 06/10/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There is a line even on the internet and magash crossed it. He should be reprimanded accordingly and consistently with past actions.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5734217 - 06/10/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think you're all being drama queens and hatin' on Magash because his set up makes all of yours look like a high school science project.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5734221 - 06/10/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Microcosmatrix said:
I think you're all being drama queens because you're hatin' on Magash because his set up makes all of yours look like a high school science project.




I've never had a problem with Magash to tell you the truth. However I do not agree with what he did and I think he should be punished as anybody including yourself would be. Having double standards is fucked.

edit: good call..


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Edited by mattzdope (06/10/06 01:09 PM)


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5734255 - 06/10/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Why repost it?

Your just contributing to drama, and this forum has been nice and drama free for awhile now.

I'm sure if the Admins wanted to see what the fuss was about, one of the parties involved could have shown it to them.

You dont need to wave it around and inflame the masses.

That resolves nothing.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5734266 - 06/10/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks, Matt. :thumbup: 

Still no admin response in either this thread or my support ticket.  Not even a word from any of our vocal admins.  Lame.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5734273 - 06/10/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You are only chiming in with such a negative response because of personal ill-will you feel towards me. Please take it elsewhere.


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Re: Harassment and slander by a moderator. [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5734326 - 06/10/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:

The rating has been edited and the matter is being handled in
private from here. The admins are not here full time - have
some freaking patience and use the proper channels!


Edited by geokills (06/10/06 01:26 PM)


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