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Offlinepokalot
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Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion?
    #5733529 - 06/10/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I recently saw some things on the internet about salvia. Some people referred to it as the strongest hallucinogen, and some people said it sucked ass. Whats your opinion?Also, for a beginner how much should i try to know whats it's "ALL ABOUT"?


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: pokalot]
    #5733583 - 06/10/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

www.bouncingb.com

Get their 10x extract, and their salvia foilage.

It is THE most intense experience EVER. The extract anyway... think of reality being ripped away while your body physically feels like its being pulled every direction, and you are suddenly transported to a strange place where 1. you dont know where you are 2. you dont know what happened or how you got htere (you forget you smoked salvia). 3. you are scared, confused, and have the feeling you can never go back and your extremely fucked

A lot of ppl find it unpleasnant, however, it can be a pretty amazing experience... Bouncingb and iamshaman produce some of the most reliable credible salvia on the net... i go with bouncingb, and their 10x standardized was stronger then ANY salvia a LOT of "experienced" salvia heads i know have tried...

Start off smoking 2 biig hits outta bong of the salvia foilage... get used to that once or three times... then load a small pinch (about the size of a pencil eraser) of 10x extract, smoke that in one big hit, hold it in as long as you can, let it out. As said by me to the 45+ ppl i "got" (muahaha, fuckers) with that 10x.. "dont stand, youll fall"

But they always stand anyway...



And they always fall...


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-SDP  :rasta:

PS: Have a freakin sitter! Holy shit! 80% of the ppl i have seen smoke the extract get an "escape" mechanism activatedm where they try to jump up, but usually fall very hard into painful furniture or walls, and flail aimlessly into things as they are fully inveloped in their salvia world (or more accurately, their body trying to physically escape the world they are in). All with a scared animal look on their face, with blank stares where their eyes see through you, b/c they arnt actually even in your reality at this point. Dont stand up, youll fall....


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This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
Give me strength to find the path
Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: SDP]
    #5733596 - 06/10/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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SDP said:
It is THE most intense experience EVER. The extract anyway... think of reality being ripped away while your body physically feels like its being pulled every direction, and you are suddenly transported to a strange place where 1. you dont know where you are 2. you dont know what happened or how you got htere (you forget you smoked salvia). 3. you are scared, confused, and have the feeling you can never go back and your extremely fucked





It is also possible, that with practice, you can break through and have a very mystifying, visually driven experience. It is possible you will be taken to a far away land, with strange entities, or maybe you'll catch a short glimpse of something in your past.

While that is possible, its highly unlikely for a first timer. Salvia has a 'reverse tolerance', as in, you need to thuroughly understand the effects before you can 'get anywhere' on this drug. If at first you don't suceed, man up and try it again.

...a lot of people don't try again, though.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5733630 - 06/10/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think it sucks abit. Ive only ever broke through on it twice, and they were both on the same night after a shit load of beers.

That was an amazing experience but usually i find the effects very mild.
It makes my skin feel all uncomfortable, now if i have any i get naked first :shocked:.

If i could break thru more often i'd love the stuff, as it is it's just a mild alterant to me.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5733672 - 06/10/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It is also possible, that with practice, you can break through and have a very mystifying, visually driven experience. It is possible you will be taken to a far away land, with strange entities, or maybe you'll catch a short glimpse of something in your past.

If at first you don't suceed, man up and try it again.

...a lot of people don't try again, though.




Agreed! I have a couple friends who experience an alternate reality that they can participate in... but it took a lot of experience... and yea... i had 1 really incredibly intense salvia trip, and im totally one of those "a lot of people dont try it again"... i smoked about 4-5 times the ammount of 10x i should have... I havnt since, and ive "gotten" 40+ ppl with it, hahahahahaha, i tried to tell them but they had NO idea (every one had a breakthrough ever time, its that damn bouncingb 10x superdank shit). I want to learn it... Any good long-term relationship stories about sally maria or her smelves? Im interested in hearing more details from ppl who have harnessed her power.

I believe in all that spiritual and astral shit... but goddamn, that bitch played a mean joke on me! And i think now shes waiting for some kind of ultimately funny trick to play on me since i "got" so many ppl with her plant... kinda my turn to be "got", yet again... however hopefully she will be happy i brought her many guests to entertain and treat me nicely.  :grin:

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And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5733701 - 06/10/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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mikeyyork said:
If i could break thru more often i'd love the stuff, as it is it's just a mild alterant to me.




I know ive been kissing their ass in this thread a lot, but bouncingb and iamshaman both carry outstanding salvia... hearsay from iamshaman, but i know for a fact bouncingb's 10x extract will prduce a breakthrough  every time with just a small ammount... havnt NOT had a breakthrough yet with all those ppl... should give it a try, its cheap too. :dogpile:

-SDP  :rasta:


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This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
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This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: SDP]
    #5733718 - 06/10/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia is different, after my last strong trip, it left me with so many questions. These questions fuel my psychedelic experiences and my life. So many things didnt make sense to me at the time, so I wanted to figure them out. I haven't tripped on her since that last time, much repsect is needed. It can be a very overpowering, uncomfortable and unpredictable experience, but well worth trying. :sun:

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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: SDP]
    #5733727 - 06/10/06 10:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I felt like I was frying while on salvia. It was interesting and stimulating, but it felt like I was staring into the sun and couldn't look away. I've had some lasting subtle perceptual changes since using it. I don't think salvia is safe, and I think the trip duration is shorter than it should be for the best possible spiritual experience.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Zorodius]
    #5733741 - 06/10/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've smoked it before. I was very disapointed. I smoked 2 bowls out of a bong to my head, after my second rip I started laughin hard as shit for maybe a couple a minutes and my skin felt wet and dry at the time...it was weird. Nothin crazy like I expected though.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Crillz]
    #5733757 - 06/10/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia never meets the expectations of a first time user.

The effects are unfathomable until you actually experience it.

I was barely 16 the first time I tried it. Of course, I believed all the hype about it being the 'most powerful hallucinogen' and an 'acid substitute'.

Hah....I was definately surprised, disappointed, and turned off from it for a couple years.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5733787 - 06/10/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think that the people who were underwhelmed by its effects just didn't get enough of the chemical into their bodies, because there is nothing underwhelming about a salvia breakthrough. Make sure to use a torch lighter (hotter than a normal lighter), and to use a reasonable amount of good strength extract.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Zorodius]
    #5733809 - 06/10/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've played around with salvia a bit, mainly with the extract of course.

And I can say "IMO" that it is quite the drug-the last time I did it, I believe it was 30x and as soon as I had exhaled I was in another world-

It is intense, make sure to do it in a comfortable zone, even after trying it a few times some 15x at a party once made me very uneasy.

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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Zorodius]
    #5734167 - 06/10/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I felt like I was frying while on salvia. It was interesting and stimulating, but it felt like I was staring into the sun and couldn't look away. I've had some lasting subtle perceptual changes since using it. I don't think salvia is safe, and I think the trip duration is shorter than it should be for the best possible spiritual experience.




I think that you are right on that aspect, tradtional methods used fresh leaf to form a quid in the mouth, a much slower absorption rate and longer more subtle duration. It is much like smoked DMT in that aspect, ayahuasca is the longer drawn out experience. :smile:


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: pokalot]
    #5734265 - 06/10/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia is an amazing teacher. You cant go into the Salvia experience with the mindset that is is just some drug that you are using to get high. Salvia will teach you a lesson if you do... and it wont be fun. Go into it with an open mind IN the moment, be humble, you are just a human. Don't act like you are some kind of God. Salvia is very powerful and knows many things. With the right energy and openness you will be in for a wondrous glimpse into unknown alien worlds.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5734424 - 06/10/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it is a very strange drug... not as enjoyable as most, but definitly worth checking out


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Acyl]
    #5734457 - 06/10/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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MusicMyRock said:
definitly worth checking out




I think sums it up.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5734481 - 06/10/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Salvia is an amazing teacher. You cant go into the Salvia experience with the mindset that is is just some drug that you are using to get high. Salvia will teach you a lesson if you do... and it wont be fun. Go into it with an open mind IN the moment, be humble, you are just a human. Don't act like you are some kind of God. Salvia is very powerful and knows many things. With the right energy and openness you will be in for a wondrous glimpse into unknown alien worlds.




Nice :tongue2:


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: schmutzen]
    #5734548 - 06/10/06 03:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

In my experience the effects of Salvia are not really different from mushrooms.

(I always use the quid-method: chewing fresh leaves)


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ultrafeel]
    #5734744 - 06/10/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How many hits out of a 15x bowl would be enough to break through


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Hix]
    #5734771 - 06/10/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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How many hits out of a 15x bowl would be enough to break through




1 big hit, held in as long as possible. Before you are done exhaling, you will be goooone.  :royalrainbow: :psychsplit:

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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: SDP]
    #5734785 - 06/10/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Good deal, good deal...

But what if it's a bic lighter instead of a more intense flame?


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: pokalot]
    #5734839 - 06/10/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ive tried it a few times. breaking through is not hard with the extract, and i have to agree that bouncing bear has some good shit. its the only place ive ever bought it from, never have i been disappointed.

ive found salvia to be more of a bully/prankster type than a teacher. seems every time i go see her shes got some new trick up her sleeve, ready to shred my existence to bits while laughing hysterically in the background. i like it though.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5734908 - 06/10/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet Av man,

What's the difference between standardized, and non-standardized? More refined divinorin?


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Hix]
    #5734960 - 06/10/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've done salvia 3 times so far. Once a week ago and twice yesterday. All times I took two hits of 10x. First time I remember everything, I don't think I was hallucinating, but it was crazy. I instantly feel down laughing and couldn't get up and was amazed about simple things. The next time I don't remember much, except right when I was taking the second hit, I felt the intense rush into the other world, and thought "Uh oh, this again :laugh:". I then began the laughing and forgot how to put my headphones (earbuds) in my ears and I couldn't really talk. The last time I did it, it was level 6 "AMNESIC" (go to sagewisdom.org to read about the levels). I don't remember anything. Apparently I was laughing for a few minutes and was speaking gibberish to my friend who was still slightly in the salvia world. We were speaking gibberish to each other and he said he felt a spiritual connection when we talked. I don't remember it. I think next time I'm just going to take one hit of the 10x and that should do me fine.

Just becareful with this stuff. Do NOT, under ANY circumstance, drive while on salvia.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ultrafeel]
    #5735491 - 06/10/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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ultrafeel said: In my experience the effects of Salvia are not really different from mushrooms.




I would agree with that, except that the entire trip is condensed into a few moments of dream time, with the smoke anywhos.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: schmutzen]
    #5735857 - 06/10/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

salvia can blow your mind to pieces if you do 20X or higher in a bong with a torch lighter. I closed my eyes and laid down, felt my mind disappear into a singularity far away from my body, my mind floating in space. Funny thing is I opened my eyes, and it stopped, and I just kinda felt funny/stoney. Salvia you have to close your eyes and let it take you, if you fight it it won't be as good.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: pokalot]
    #5736330 - 06/10/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia is something unique. Either you hate it or you love it if you've had some exposure. I for one love it!

As for quantity, I recommend using VERY small amounts until you get a bit of a feel for the territory before going in deeper.

If you get too high on salvia it can be one of the most horrible bad trips imaginable, so start at the shallow end of the pool and gradually go deeper, looking if you can swim before diving into the deep end.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Asante]
    #5736655 - 06/11/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

When I did salvia for the first time I didn't really start slow. Two hits, or bowls, of the 10x.

I would suggest doing it slow though. I can see how my experience could've scared others to death.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: shroomanic]
    #5737735 - 06/11/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i have watched many people been blown to pieces by this plant.

"salvia doesn't do anything, it's just like weed."

"then here...smoke this bowl of salvia."

"WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?! WHO ARE YOU?! WHERE AM I?! WHAT IS THIS?!"

i have watched people in the most horrific states they have probably ever been in. actually quite funny to watch people smoke the plant when they themselves have no respect for it whatsoever. it kicks their ass.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: mushiemountain]
    #5737782 - 06/11/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah seriously. its hilarious! people always seem to think its "like weed" yeah fucking right its like weed. weed is like a pony ride and Salvia is like a fucking rocket into outer space. You better hold on buddy  :evil: this is strong weed  :grin:


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5739608 - 06/11/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I got a kilo off lady salvia on ebay a while ago ($200), good shit, made a ton of 10x and turned on all my friends. One I gave it to him at work (constuction site) and the dumbass went into the blue room and smoked some, thinkin' it was just like some "herbal extacy" bullshit. FREAKEDTHEFUCKOUT! Good thing the owner wasn't there he was wandering around barely able to stand up, both arms straight out horizontally and knees about 50 percent bent saying " what goin' on" over and over again. I couldn't help but laugh though cuz I kept warning him the whole time that it's not a toy, he's always smokin' pot on the site though, so I guess I shoulda known better.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ngnyus]
    #5739979 - 06/11/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The last time I smoked Salvia I hit 1/10th of a gram of 10X from BBB (about a week ago). Me and a friend of mine made a huge campfire in his back yard and smoked it outside. All my previous Salvia experiences have been indoors, in my home. Anyway it went something like this....

I went first, and my friend Sat for me so I wouldn't mess with the fire (I'm a bit of a pyro). I used a glass sidecar, and a bic lighter and took it all in one huge rip and held it... and held it... until it seemed as though the world was slowing down and down... and down until it went on 'pause'. Then EVERYTHING was suddenly different, like out of this world. For a few minutes there wasn't even a fire in front of me, nor stars above, but it also felt strangely familiar. I had been there before, which I have (this is about my 7th trip) but the strange thing is I got that "feel like I'd been there before" feeling the first time I ever smoked it.

Once things in the real world began coming back, I could see the fire in front of me, and my friend smoking a cigarette (although I wasn't sure who he was) and I start to remember I just smoked some Salvia, so I started giggling to myself. Then for the next 10 minutes I felt really stoned and uncoordinated. I stumbled to a chair next to the fire and pieced my mind back together while trying to hold on to the experience which I had just gone through.


Salvia is intense to the max. Absolutely not a party drug or something fun to smoke and chill or watch TV. But if your looking to expand your mind, look no further.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: rockytop83]
    #5740327 - 06/12/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've found usng the quid is the way to go if you want to get to know what the plant has to offer. Sure getting blasted by some extract is fun or intense whatever you want to call it, but I'm left with little gained from the experience.

I've been going on more of a mental journey and less visual with the quid. I bounce in between being absorbed by the salvia and being able to ponder it for about an hour. Then I put on some music and chill. I'll probably only smoke the extract ocasionally now.

But I have a kilo of the leaf which I bought for 100 from bouncing bear. So I'm not too interested in conserving it. I could find the coupon code if anyone is interested.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ultrafeel]
    #5740333 - 06/12/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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In my experience the effects of Salvia are not really different from mushrooms.

(I always use the quid-method: chewing fresh leaves)




I'm beginnig to feel the same way :thumbup:


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: palmersc]
    #5740351 - 06/12/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i cant personally state my opinion, but a friend who has tripped on magic mushrooms a few times and enjoyed it said that salvia was not a pleasant experience and he just ended up passing out.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: palmersc]
    #5740360 - 06/12/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Think of a successful experience with Salvia Divinorum like this:

First off, it acts on the kappa-opioid receptor sites of your brain, so it's both an analgesic and a deliriant hallucinogen.

Second, the kappa-opioid receptor plays a very prominent role in human perception. Stimulating it with such a chemical as Salvinorin A (the primary active cinstituent of Salvia) essentially brings on an artificially induced state of shizophrenia. You will have moments where things happen, only to realize that nothing really happened after the next blink of your eyes. It's scary at times, it's completely blissful at times, it's something to maybe experiment with WITH A SITTER or trusted friend, but I can only recommend using caution with it and how you interpret what you experience. PM me if you need, I've smoked a lot of it.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Ducky]
    #5740401 - 06/12/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

salvia is legal in the U.S. right? and you can buy it at tobacco stores?


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Phishe]
    #5740439 - 06/12/06 12:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

My first, and most potent introduction to hallucinogens was 95 mcg of salvia 10x extract. I have to say that if you can let go and let your 'I have to have my precious reality' mindset go, you'll be fine.  :gethigh:


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Phishe]
    #5740510 - 06/12/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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salvia is legal in the U.S. right? and you can buy it at tobacco stores?




ya, but the shit around here (az) that you can get at the pipe shops is worthless.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: wrestler_az]
    #5740525 - 06/12/06 01:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Phishe said:
salvia is legal in the U.S. right? and you can buy it at tobacco stores?




ya, but the shit around here (az) that you can get at the pipe shops is worthless.




How so(?), im in arizona too and some friends of mine who took it said they felt it and everything.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Ducky]
    #5740993 - 06/12/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Think of a successful experience with Salvia Divinorum like this:

First off, it acts on the kappa-opioid receptor sites of your brain, so it's both an analgesic and a deliriant hallucinogen.

Second, the kappa-opioid receptor plays a very prominent role in human perception. Stimulating it with such a chemical as Salvinorin A (the primary active cinstituent of Salvia) essentially brings on an artificially induced state of shizophrenia. You will have moments where things happen, only to realize that nothing really happened after the next blink of your eyes. It's scary at times, it's completely blissful at times, it's something to maybe experiment with WITH A SITTER or trusted friend, but I can only recommend using caution with it and how you interpret what you experience. PM me if you need, I've smoked a lot of it.




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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5741112 - 06/12/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: pac_man]
    #5741228 - 06/12/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i personally do not enjoy the salvia experience, i find lsd and shrooms more enjoyable and interesting in a good way, unlike the plain weird feeling salvia gives.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Crowsnose]
    #5743532 - 06/12/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I believe salvia is a gateway that reveals the spiritual dimension, but I hardly ever have the familiar visuals that come with other psychedelics. It always seems as I first begin to come up the world seems to turn "plastic" for lack of a better word. Then I seem to slip into a realm that is always there but rarely noticed, hence the familiarity so often described with salvia trips, and am able to "see" better the reality of the spiritual. What strikes me as weird is that out of all the people I have turned on to her the ones that have the highest tolerance seem to be the TRUE atheists, those who do not or will not believe in anything spiritual, some of these seem to be absolutely immune, any one else out there notice this or is this just a coincidence.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ngnyus]
    #5803500 - 06/29/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ive bought 1 gram of 10x and 1 gram of 20x the ten made me laugh histerically, and the 20 made me feel like i got ripped in half and turned into the ground


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5803838 - 06/29/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Salvia never meets the expectations of a first time user.




it blew my expectations out of the water . . along with everything around me. A friend and I had a couple vials of 40x sally D . . . after taking one big bong rip and "forgetting to breathe" . . I woke up, not knowing where I was or who my friends were. It felt like I was in a picture that had been ripped. The right side of my face and body felt like they were waving in the black abyss I could see when looking to my right. Crazy stuff. My second time, I realized i was tripping earlier than my first and the things I saw were hilarious. I'm sure it was just as fun watching me too. I like the stuff. Planning on taking a mondo rip during the next shroom. this weekend? =0 -paz


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Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: oneslug]
    #5803872 - 06/29/06 04:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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ultrafeel said: In my experience the effects of Salvia are not really different from mushrooms.




i dont think u can compare shrooms vs salvia...
Salvia is not that psychedelic, not that colorful, it is a completly different experience... more dreamy like.

I could descrive it as suddenly awakening in a different world, and as you try to understand it you fall in many mind tricks and momentary ilusions that last just while the 'real' world comes back.

It is a little confusing and a short experience but i've enjoyed it.


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