|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Hix
Animal Mother


Registered: 02/20/06
Posts: 299
Last seen: 16 years, 3 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: SDP]
#5734785 - 06/10/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Good deal, good deal...
But what if it's a bic lighter instead of a more intense flame?
|
wrestler_az
PsiLLy BiLLy


Registered: 08/11/02
Posts: 13,676
Loc: day dreams of a mad man
Last seen: 19 hours, 42 minutes
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: pokalot]
#5734839 - 06/10/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
ive tried it a few times. breaking through is not hard with the extract, and i have to agree that bouncing bear has some good shit. its the only place ive ever bought it from, never have i been disappointed.
ive found salvia to be more of a bully/prankster type than a teacher. seems every time i go see her shes got some new trick up her sleeve, ready to shred my existence to bits while laughing hysterically in the background. i like it though.
-------------------- how's your WOW?
Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM)
|
Hix
Animal Mother


Registered: 02/20/06
Posts: 299
Last seen: 16 years, 3 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: wrestler_az]
#5734908 - 06/10/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Sweet Av man,
What's the difference between standardized, and non-standardized? More refined divinorin?
|
shroomanic
PsychiatricExplorations


Registered: 12/21/04
Posts: 650
Loc: Dunder Mifflin
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Hix]
#5734960 - 06/10/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I've done salvia 3 times so far. Once a week ago and twice yesterday. All times I took two hits of 10x. First time I remember everything, I don't think I was hallucinating, but it was crazy. I instantly feel down laughing and couldn't get up and was amazed about simple things. The next time I don't remember much, except right when I was taking the second hit, I felt the intense rush into the other world, and thought "Uh oh, this again ". I then began the laughing and forgot how to put my headphones (earbuds) in my ears and I couldn't really talk. The last time I did it, it was level 6 "AMNESIC" (go to sagewisdom.org to read about the levels). I don't remember anything. Apparently I was laughing for a few minutes and was speaking gibberish to my friend who was still slightly in the salvia world. We were speaking gibberish to each other and he said he felt a spiritual connection when we talked. I don't remember it. I think next time I'm just going to take one hit of the 10x and that should do me fine.
Just becareful with this stuff. Do NOT, under ANY circumstance, drive while on salvia.
|
schmutzen
King of the side-pins


Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 15,314
Loc: Miss Kitty's Lounge
Last seen: 7 hours, 43 minutes
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ultrafeel]
#5735491 - 06/10/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ultrafeel said: In my experience the effects of Salvia are not really different from mushrooms.
I would agree with that, except that the entire trip is condensed into a few moments of dream time, with the smoke anywhos.
--------------------
"Blow up your TV, throw away your paper. Go to the country, build you a home."
|
RickFL239
explorer

Registered: 06/04/06
Posts: 60
Last seen: 14 years, 24 days
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: schmutzen]
#5735857 - 06/10/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
salvia can blow your mind to pieces if you do 20X or higher in a bong with a torch lighter. I closed my eyes and laid down, felt my mind disappear into a singularity far away from my body, my mind floating in space. Funny thing is I opened my eyes, and it stopped, and I just kinda felt funny/stoney. Salvia you have to close your eyes and let it take you, if you fight it it won't be as good.
|
Asante
Mage


Registered: 02/06/02
Posts: 86,795
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: pokalot]
#5736330 - 06/10/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Salvia is something unique. Either you hate it or you love it if you've had some exposure. I for one love it!
As for quantity, I recommend using VERY small amounts until you get a bit of a feel for the territory before going in deeper.
If you get too high on salvia it can be one of the most horrible bad trips imaginable, so start at the shallow end of the pool and gradually go deeper, looking if you can swim before diving into the deep end.
-------------------- Omnicyclion.org higher knowledge starts here
|
shroomanic
PsychiatricExplorations


Registered: 12/21/04
Posts: 650
Loc: Dunder Mifflin
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Asante]
#5736655 - 06/11/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
When I did salvia for the first time I didn't really start slow. Two hits, or bowls, of the 10x.
I would suggest doing it slow though. I can see how my experience could've scared others to death.
|
mushiemountain
i am the sacredone
Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 1,616
Last seen: 15 years, 5 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: shroomanic]
#5737735 - 06/11/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
i have watched many people been blown to pieces by this plant.
"salvia doesn't do anything, it's just like weed."
"then here...smoke this bowl of salvia."
"WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?! WHO ARE YOU?! WHERE AM I?! WHAT IS THIS?!"
i have watched people in the most horrific states they have probably ever been in. actually quite funny to watch people smoke the plant when they themselves have no respect for it whatsoever. it kicks their ass.
-------------------- I Ain't No Fool. Mama Didn't Raise No Fool. ----------primussucks
|
EquilibriuM
dream stalker

Registered: 07/17/05
Posts: 2,323
Last seen: 16 years, 7 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: mushiemountain]
#5737782 - 06/11/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
yeah seriously. its hilarious! people always seem to think its "like weed" yeah fucking right its like weed. weed is like a pony ride and Salvia is like a fucking rocket into outer space. You better hold on buddy this is strong weed
-------------------- HELP!!!!!!!!!
|
ngnyus
the madherbalist



Registered: 03/27/06
Posts: 519
Last seen: 14 years, 10 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5739608 - 06/11/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, I got a kilo off lady salvia on ebay a while ago ($200), good shit, made a ton of 10x and turned on all my friends. One I gave it to him at work (constuction site) and the dumbass went into the blue room and smoked some, thinkin' it was just like some "herbal extacy" bullshit. FREAKEDTHEFUCKOUT! Good thing the owner wasn't there he was wandering around barely able to stand up, both arms straight out horizontally and knees about 50 percent bent saying " what goin' on" over and over again. I couldn't help but laugh though cuz I kept warning him the whole time that it's not a toy, he's always smokin' pot on the site though, so I guess I shoulda known better.
--------------------
 You reap what you sow
|
rockytop83
Ornoth/Myc/ologist

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 588
Loc: Rocky-lachians
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ngnyus]
#5739979 - 06/11/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
The last time I smoked Salvia I hit 1/10th of a gram of 10X from BBB (about a week ago). Me and a friend of mine made a huge campfire in his back yard and smoked it outside. All my previous Salvia experiences have been indoors, in my home. Anyway it went something like this....
I went first, and my friend Sat for me so I wouldn't mess with the fire (I'm a bit of a pyro). I used a glass sidecar, and a bic lighter and took it all in one huge rip and held it... and held it... until it seemed as though the world was slowing down and down... and down until it went on 'pause'. Then EVERYTHING was suddenly different, like out of this world. For a few minutes there wasn't even a fire in front of me, nor stars above, but it also felt strangely familiar. I had been there before, which I have (this is about my 7th trip) but the strange thing is I got that "feel like I'd been there before" feeling the first time I ever smoked it.
Once things in the real world began coming back, I could see the fire in front of me, and my friend smoking a cigarette (although I wasn't sure who he was) and I start to remember I just smoked some Salvia, so I started giggling to myself. Then for the next 10 minutes I felt really stoned and uncoordinated. I stumbled to a chair next to the fire and pieced my mind back together while trying to hold on to the experience which I had just gone through.
Salvia is intense to the max. Absolutely not a party drug or something fun to smoke and chill or watch TV. But if your looking to expand your mind, look no further.
--------------------
  ~You know that same rowdy crowd was here last night is back again~
|
palmersc
Stranger


Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 425
Loc: Arkansas
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: rockytop83]
#5740327 - 06/12/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I've found usng the quid is the way to go if you want to get to know what the plant has to offer. Sure getting blasted by some extract is fun or intense whatever you want to call it, but I'm left with little gained from the experience.
I've been going on more of a mental journey and less visual with the quid. I bounce in between being absorbed by the salvia and being able to ponder it for about an hour. Then I put on some music and chill. I'll probably only smoke the extract ocasionally now.
But I have a kilo of the leaf which I bought for 100 from bouncing bear. So I'm not too interested in conserving it. I could find the coupon code if anyone is interested.
|
palmersc
Stranger


Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 425
Loc: Arkansas
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: ultrafeel]
#5740333 - 06/12/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ultrafeel said: In my experience the effects of Salvia are not really different from mushrooms.
(I always use the quid-method: chewing fresh leaves)
I'm beginnig to feel the same way
|
Phishe
Lysergic Bliss


Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 2,908
Loc: Planet Earth
Last seen: 11 years, 4 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: palmersc]
#5740351 - 06/12/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
i cant personally state my opinion, but a friend who has tripped on magic mushrooms a few times and enjoyed it said that salvia was not a pleasant experience and he just ended up passing out.
|
Ducky
Governor ofRhythm


Registered: 05/09/06
Posts: 71
Loc: on a boat somewhere
Last seen: 17 years, 5 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: palmersc]
#5740360 - 06/12/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Think of a successful experience with Salvia Divinorum like this:
First off, it acts on the kappa-opioid receptor sites of your brain, so it's both an analgesic and a deliriant hallucinogen.
Second, the kappa-opioid receptor plays a very prominent role in human perception. Stimulating it with such a chemical as Salvinorin A (the primary active cinstituent of Salvia) essentially brings on an artificially induced state of shizophrenia. You will have moments where things happen, only to realize that nothing really happened after the next blink of your eyes. It's scary at times, it's completely blissful at times, it's something to maybe experiment with WITH A SITTER or trusted friend, but I can only recommend using caution with it and how you interpret what you experience. PM me if you need, I've smoked a lot of it.
-------------------- "Whoa! ...did you just see that too?"
|
Phishe
Lysergic Bliss


Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 2,908
Loc: Planet Earth
Last seen: 11 years, 4 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Ducky]
#5740401 - 06/12/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
salvia is legal in the U.S. right? and you can buy it at tobacco stores?
|
justamonkey
Stranger


Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 292
Loc: Upstairs
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Phishe]
#5740439 - 06/12/06 12:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
My first, and most potent introduction to hallucinogens was 95 mcg of salvia 10x extract. I have to say that if you can let go and let your 'I have to have my precious reality' mindset go, you'll be fine.
-------------------- [quote]We don't need anyone to teach us sorcery, because there is really nothing to learn. What we need is a teacher to convince us that there is incalculable power at our fingertips. What a strange paradox! Every warrior on the path of knowledge thinks, at one time or another, that he's learning sorcery, but all he's doing is allowing himself to be convinced of the power hidden in his being, and that he can reach it. [/quote]-Carlos Casteneda
|
wrestler_az
PsiLLy BiLLy


Registered: 08/11/02
Posts: 13,676
Loc: day dreams of a mad man
Last seen: 19 hours, 42 minutes
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: Phishe]
#5740510 - 06/12/06 01:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Phishe said: salvia is legal in the U.S. right? and you can buy it at tobacco stores?
ya, but the shit around here (az) that you can get at the pipe shops is worthless.
-------------------- how's your WOW?
Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM)
|
Phishe
Lysergic Bliss


Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 2,908
Loc: Planet Earth
Last seen: 11 years, 4 months
|
Re: Salvia Divinorum, whats your oponion? [Re: wrestler_az]
#5740525 - 06/12/06 01:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
wrestler_az said:
Quote:
Phishe said: salvia is legal in the U.S. right? and you can buy it at tobacco stores?
ya, but the shit around here (az) that you can get at the pipe shops is worthless.
How so(?), im in arizona too and some friends of mine who took it said they felt it and everything.
|
|