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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: demiu5]
    #5734536 - 06/10/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Sorry leery11, let me restate:

It could hurt individual followers of religions, with the potential to harm religions.

I have known many Christians who think there is no other life anywhere but here on earth, and if life was to be found elsewhere, it would shatter them and their beliefs.




which is really silly cause the idea there there is no life exept on earth is contrary to everything christianity believes in. Angels, saits, God, they don't live on earth, and therefore are extraterrestrials by definition


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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5734641 - 06/10/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Except God was supposed to have created life only on earth, and spiritual entities don't qualify as life.


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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5734698 - 06/10/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Except God was supposed to have created life only on earth, and spiritual entities don't qualify as life.




And what does "spiritual entity" mean anyway? What is it?


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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5734712 - 06/10/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Except God was supposed to have created life only on earth, and spiritual entities don't qualify as life.




No, the Orthodox Judeo-Christian God was supposed to have created life only on earth.

Don't use God in such a general sense.


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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: spud]
    #5734726 - 06/10/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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OmEgAx1 said:
Except God was supposed to have created life only on earth, and spiritual entities don't qualify as life.




the Orthodox Judeo-Christian God was supposed to have created life only on earth.





can you quote Bible on that?


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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5734772 - 06/10/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

God has given us rather specific details of the future and even some details into how the world will end. If God had created living beings elsewhere, this would automatically destroy their dwelling place as well. Adam's sin caused all of creation to be affected, so why would a race of beings, not of Adam's sin, have their part of creation affected by it, and then be part of the restoration brought about by Christ? It just seems absurd.

This is the claim made by most Orthodox Judeo-Christians. I am not inferring that it holds any validity in regards to Orthodox Judeo-Christianity, simply because I am not a member of it. It is just an argument I've heard over and over. Being a Gnostic myself, I have no objection to life on other planets.

I'm actually heading out the door, but I'd love to continue this tonight.


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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: spud]
    #5734788 - 06/10/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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If God had created living beings elsewhere, this would automatically destroy their dwelling place as well.





Whoa. Now that's a leap in logic

Genesis clearly describes creation of life on earth. Wheather there is life on other planets is irrelevant and neither mentioned nor refuted in Genesis or any other part of Bible.

So, the people you've been hearing these arguments are jumping to conclusions. You have to separate religious texts from people who read them.


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Re: Mysterious Red Cells Might Be Aliens [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5735164 - 06/10/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Never did I claim it was logical. I find few of the Orthodox Judeo-Christian premises logical.

Each branch of Christianity has it's own worldview. It is important to separate the text from the people when making general statements on Christianity, but when the specifics come into play, the worldview is pretty common. The disbelief in alien existence is something standard amongst the Orthodox Judeo-Christian worldview. I've came across several protestant Presbyterians, for example, who do believe in the possibility of alien existence. And pretty much every Catholic Gnostic I've met accepts the possibility. It is faciliated in their worldview as a non tabboo belief. The same can not be said for the Orthodox Judeo-Christians.


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