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LSA - do people like it?
    #5731687 - 06/09/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

how does LSA compare to LSD and Shrooms?

it seems that most people feel it just isn't worth the effort of consuming the notoriously nauseating seeds.

wait i know there was a reason i made thi sthread and it was definitely more than just that

it just seems so hit and miss, is it worth the trouble?

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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: avapxia]
    #5731761 - 06/09/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

My one and only LSA trip -- while not 'recreational', and possibly not all that fun - was most certianly worth while. I look forward to the next time I take HBWR seeds, and I did really enjoy the expierence (despite being in utter hell for many hours), but at the same time its not something that I'd be looking to do with the same frequency as LSD or Mush


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: kaniz]
    #5731770 - 06/09/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

its something to try once or twice. ive tried it twice, 4 seeds and 8 seeds. it was pleasurable the first time, no visuals besides tracers, no nausea, felt like i was rolling on E. second time was much more intense, with CEVs and OEVs, strong nausea, etc. It wasnt too pleasant


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: jaked588]
    #5731798 - 06/09/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it's pretty good except for the nausea.

most i did was 6 seeds or so HBWR and i loved it a lot until (i think but i'm not sure) the tapping of my foot on my desk kept repeating over and over and over because I thought someone was tapping on my window (which would have been impossible so i thought the neihbors below me were) and so then i freaked out for about 3 hours listening to El Cielo over and over to calm my nerves, hiding in my room because I thought they knew I was tripping.

pretty silly and absurd, it was because the tapping wouldn't stop that it bugged me. I guess that's how Poe felt...

I was basically love manifest, my head felt expanded and airy... movements were exagerated and blurry..... I was remembering much joyful things about my childhood and Easter as a very young kid..... writing about how much I loved things and making crazy doodles.

it was fantastic til that snapped. i shouldn't have been listening to NIN either.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: leery11]
    #5732519 - 06/09/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my grandmas pet moose had eaten over 600 mg's on sepperate ocassions to no avail. it wasnt till my grandmas pet llama did an extraction did anyone feel effects. the llama reported feeling very floaty, dreamy, with tracers and colors similar to the effects of a low-dose acid trip. he experienced slideshows of his life with emotions and thoughts engraved into them. he felt very pulled down, and drained of energy. he didnt wanna get up and do anything, just sit and trip. he didnt report nausea being as he reportedly used a naphtha wash.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5732708 - 06/09/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

dont do it

its sucks

horrible nausea (for me atleast)

and its very unpleasant, in my experience


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: Atheist]
    #5732867 - 06/10/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Extractions sound promising...haven't taken the time to do one yet, though.

As far as the seeds...its CRAP compared to shrooms and LSD...but its not horrible...it can be rewarding if you take steps to kill nausea. But I do tend to dwell on thoughts moreso than I do on shrooms or acid...I usually know how to keep myself out of thought loops, but on LSA its a little more difficult for me.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5733301 - 06/10/06 05:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah go ahead and try it, well that is if you like severe leg cramps and neausea plus no effects you want


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: sunchaser]
    #5733342 - 06/10/06 06:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: sunchaser]
    #5733343 - 06/10/06 06:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't say its crap compared to the two. If your looking for a 'go out, explore the world, lots of laughs and giggles' trip - then yeah, it sucks.

But, if you want a knock you on your ass, beautiful, terrifying, amazing, terrible, take you to blissful heights and frightening lows intense psychedelic experience : it can offer you that.

I think the people who say 'LSA is horrible' are probably using it for the wrong reasons.

As a 'legal' alternative to LSD/Mushrooms - yes, its no good.
As a powerful psychedelic in it's own right? - its very good.

Yes, I went through many hours of hell - vomiting, feeling sick, cramps in the legs, laying on my bed twitching like I was having a seizure, my trip partner felt so sick he almost got me to call 911. But the payoff? wow - it was amazing.

If you think LSA sucks, then your using it for the wrong reasons.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: kaniz]
    #5733611 - 06/10/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I say its 'crap' compared to the other two because you can just read the reports and see how the majority feels.

As far as a fun, enlightening, giddy, socially enjoyable experience goes, you are simply less likely to have that on LSA than you would shrooms or acid.

It seems more people have to 'work' for a postive experience on LSA, while great times just happen all the time (not ALL the time, but you know) on shrooms and LSD.

That is only coming from a 'seed-eating' perspective. I've never taken the time to extract it, which is probably A LOT better.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5733618 - 06/10/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

and why do all psychedelic expierences need to be giddy, sociable and enjoying? My most 'profound' and 'meaningfull' trips have often come at the expense of feeling like shit for a while.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: kaniz]
    #5733621 - 06/10/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

theres beauty, and potential with LSA, but not so much grace. you sorta need to work with it to get to a certain plateau. but its still a beautiful tool and an awesome psychedelic.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5733636 - 06/10/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ShroomieOfDoomie said:
theres beauty, and potential with LSA, but not so much grace. you sorta need to work with it to get to a certain plateau. but its still a beautiful tool and an awesome psychedelic.




^^Thats what I'm saying, just with a little more tact. Thanks.



Maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but I want something that is giddy, sociable, and enjoying so I can 'flip the switch', but not worry about HAVING to 'flip the switch'.

Maybe I like too much mental control, but LSA makes me dwell on things. If I'm seeking profoundness, I'd STILL want to do it with shrooms and LSD instead of LSA.

I'm NOT saying LSA is a bad substance...but I stand firm in my opinion that it simply can't compare to the classics. If it did, it would be illegal.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5733678 - 06/10/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Why aren't there extracts that you can buy? That would make it a lot easier, and there shouldn't be any legal issues since.. well, it's legal.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: avapxia]
    #5733706 - 06/10/06 10:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

its not legal. its legal in seed form. LSA is an analogue of LSD, and therefore illegal. consuming LSA for the intent of getting high is also illegal, but not much can be done about it. Possessing extracted forms of LSA is a felony and can get you in some deep dookie. study more...

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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5733716 - 06/10/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

oh and assuming that things are legal just because you can legaly go buy the seeds in the store is a very bad assumption.

thats like saying because mint extract is 94% ethanol that moonshine is legal.

good way to check if a chemical is scheduled or not is here www.erowid.org


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5733746 - 06/10/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I was saying that with the full knowledge that it is an analogue, and that the extracted LSA would be highly illegal.

I apologize for saying it in a manner that would lead one to believe otherwise. I've been really high all morning, I should be re-reading my posts.

I was only saying it for the reason that the authorities aren't out looking for LSA for the same reason they aren't out looking for salvia. It just isn't as enjoyable or sought after as other substances.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5733752 - 06/10/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i felt sick as hell the whole time


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: avapxia]
    #5733966 - 06/10/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I like it(but I also have a cast iron stomach) I've never experienced nausea from them...I found it have a definite acid feel but without the visuals


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #6319409 - 11/29/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

LSA kicks fukkiing ass. its easy to take. it causes only slight nausea. (morning glory seeds) and it givs a wicked visual trip if dosed properly. bothmy experiences i experience high mind fuk levels. thinking wierd shit, unable to communicate with bystander(aslso tripping) and the entire time i felt like i was just floating around. wicked amazing body high. crazy visuals. plus its not comparable to lsd or mushroomies. it gives its own unique trip, with its own unique colors and features. it last a long time, just dont eat the seed shell and ull be fine. i know the perfect way muahaha. take care fellowss. dont die on me now


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #6319504 - 11/29/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I hear its great in an enema


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: grimR]
    #6319536 - 11/29/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I took 9g of fresh Morning glory seeds from my back yard put them into a coffee grinder and munched it all back......Makes me gag thinking about it. Nausea the whole time. However I did trip and I enjoyed that part of it. I actually found it was a clear headed trip without the nausea I would love it. It also hurt to piss after but I think that was from my stomach cramping.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: musher_420]
    #6319873 - 11/29/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Enlightening, not excessively visual, nauseating.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: goodolgoogy]
    #6319885 - 11/29/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I took 3 hbwr and just got kind of nauseous and tired. Thinking of eating 6ish sometime later (ground and soaked in water, then drained instead of eaten whole).


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: avapxia]
    #8570812 - 06/27/08 12:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

idk it was worth it, Ive done it multiple times and did the extractions different ways. The one time I didnt have THAT BAD of naseua was when I soaked the seeds til they expanded and then peeled away the husks and just ate the brainy insides, and it was decent visuals too. but just last weekend I did a lemon drink extraction and I had naseau for like the first 2 hours and then I was flyin but I just couldnt move or the sickness would all come back


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: shponglified]
    #8570829 - 06/27/08 12:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like too much trouble to me.. I'd rather just eat some shrooms or munch a cactus. :P


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #8574191 - 06/28/08 12:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I took 8 seeds and threw up 15 seconds after swallowing the drink. (crushed up hbwr in oj)


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: WonkierBubble]
    #8574249 - 06/28/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I've done them a few times, and it was pretty much the same every time.

Sort of a dreamy trip that started with a bearable amount of nausea and borderline intolerable leg cramping with minimal visuals (depth perception seemed different and everything seemed more in focus). Nausea and cramps were gone after 2 hours or less.

It was sort of interesting, but not worth having to eat those seeds and deal with the nausea and cramps. Doses were 6 and 8 HBWR seeds from a good online vendor.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: issem]
    #8574321 - 06/28/08 01:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I really enjoy them, at low doses.

First time I did them I took 5 seeds, walking back from my friends house at like 1AM was pretty magical. Cars with rainbow headlights making tracers as they passed me, I saw a couple of foxes fighting, the stars seemed to be dancing with each other. The euphoria was great too. 

Higher doses aren't very pleasant at all, lots of nausea that lasts the whole trip if you're unlucky.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #8574503 - 06/28/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I've done it 3 times. Each time was different...each time I was really fucking sick though.

My friend H-Town never gets sick from them. Its not something I'd like to do too often, but a few times a year is cool.

No visuals for me though. CRAZY body high, no visuals.

PS> Does the extraction cut the nausea at all?


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: RasJeph]
    #8575291 - 06/28/08 07:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I read somewhere on the internet that the extracion using naphtha didin't work.

I suppose it's not the LSA that sucks but the other alkaloids contained in the seeds.Naphtha takes up other alkaloids too.
If you can extract the LSA alone,it might give you good experiences.

But I'm wondering,why there's no LSA sheets tablets liquids on the black market.I've nerver heard of it.


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Re: LSA - do people like it? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #8575594 - 06/28/08 09:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I tried morning glories several times before finally getting a trip off of them....

My first couple attempts i grinded up MG seeds but took to low of a dose. The next few attempts i bumped up the dosage and tried the cold water extraction method, i wasn't able to keep the MG tea down long enough i would  :puke:  after 30 minutes or so....

I was just about to swear off MG seeds all together until a few weeks ago i was planning to shroom but decided to give LSA another chance. I bought approx 11g of MG seeds, did a CWE, filtered off any seed material very well this time, added some peppermint oil, ate some ginger, and drank the tea. ...After many trials i finally perfected the LSA drink and tripped.

The trip was somewhere between mild and moderate in comparison to my other experiences with psychedelics...During the come up my body felt very lethargic, almost like weights were pulling down on me, and i had somewhat of a mindfuck going on. All this turned into a euphoric body high and mindset, i couldn't get a smile off my face for quite sometime. And the mindfuck turned into a clear head with thoughts and ideas flowing nicely. I was very talkative and in good spirits the entire time. Visuals weren't much, objects were brighter and sharper, some tracers, the way i perceived my size in comparison to other objects or the room itself kept changing. It wasn't until about 5am that i realized i had been tripping for 5 hours, my sense of time was fucked i didn't understand how 5 hours had gone by....It was a nice first trip on LSA for me, i could deff tell that if i bump up the dosage a bit next time the trip is going to go to the next level, which is what I'm going to do in about a week....

So with all the attempts i made at LSA it finally paid off. For those of you that haven't got what your looking for out of MG or HBWR, either this substance really isn't for you...or, you need to keep at it and try different methods.

*For those of you that get nausea or stomach probs i highly recommend smoking a little bit of herb and a few slices of ginger root. I am damn near positive the only reason i was able to not puke last time was because i ate some ginger root before and after i drank the MG tea. Prior to this without the ginger i would get extreme sudden nausea and purge 30 min after ingestion. This was the first time i tried ginger root and it was amazing how well it worked, no stomach probs what so ever through the entire night.  :thumbup: Ginger  :thumbup:


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