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morning glory ,whats the problem?
    #5731283 - 06/09/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so not that long ago i tried morning glory for the first time 6 grams along with my friend who also ate 6 grams. we didnt experience ne sort of trip but i remember on tha ride home lights where really bright but thats about it. im thinking of tryn again but is it worth it? any one else experience n e thing like this?


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5731367 - 06/09/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ive tried HBWR a few times and my second trip was pretty intense (CEVs and OEVs). i think there are certain strains of morning glory that are more potent than others, and you may have had one of the less potent strains. as for baby woodrose, i know the hawaiian strain is the most potent.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: jaked588]
    #5731373 - 06/09/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

they where hevinly blue morning glory seedz


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5731437 - 06/09/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

in most cases the only reason that someone injesting morning glory seed does not experience any affect is because they did not consume enough seed.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: A0999]
    #5731440 - 06/09/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i dont know how much morning glory seeds typically weigh so i wouldnt be able to tell you a decent dose in grams.

how many seeds is 6 grams?


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: A0999]
    #5731457 - 06/09/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i believe it was somewhere around 300 seed +

Light 50 - 100 seeds 1.5 - 3 g
Common 100 - 250 seeds 3 - 6 g
Strong 250 - 400 seeds 6 - 10 g
Heavy 400 + seeds 10 + g


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5731560 - 06/09/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, i wouldnt personally take anything less than 500 seeds.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: A0999]
    #5731571 - 06/09/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

do yourself a favor and get HBWR next time.

i havent ever taken them but consuming MG seeds, especially at the ammount needed is just straight up nasty.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: A0999]
    #5731583 - 06/09/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you decide to keep using MG seeds......try an extraction. Unless you are under 21 and can't get your hands on some high proof booze.

...or go for a water extraction even. Eating that many seeds...well, it sucks. LSA gets much better than chomping 500 seeds that are probably treated.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5731667 - 06/09/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i agree MG is nasty


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5734930 - 06/10/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

do u guyz thing maybe i should attempt hawian baby woodrose nextt time i looked on i am shamen n they got some goood dealz worth a try?


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5735514 - 06/10/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i took 10g of MG Heavenley Blue seeds and all i got were alot of muscle cramps and nausea. If you want to try them again go ahead


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: psychonaut_420]
    #5735525 - 06/10/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ya but i hear so manny good things bout em so i will try em again


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5735554 - 06/10/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The issue with MG seeds is more often product potency than amount taken. After about 9 months, MG seeds will have lost almost all potency, and most commercial garden stores/nurseries keep their seeds for far longer than 9 months before selling them. If you want to try morning glory, then you need to get them from a fresh source, or otherwise order them online (in which case I would recommend that you order HBWR instead).


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5735585 - 06/10/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

what about i am shaman.com fresh?


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5735832 - 06/10/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

grow some morning glory yourself. the damn things grow so fast and easy its amazing and will give you thousands of fresh seeds.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5736763 - 06/11/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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PsychdlcMes3 said:
what about i am shaman.com fresh?




Yes, definitely. IAmShaman is an ethnobotanical supplier, so they sell morning glory seeds with the expectation that they will be consumed by the buyer. This demand means that www.iamshaman.com should be concerned with the potency of their seeds (unlike garden stores), and will probably sell freshly harvested material.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: RickFL239]
    #5736794 - 06/11/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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grow some morning glory yourself.  the damn things grow so fast and easy its amazing and will give you thousands of fresh seeds.




This is an excellent recommendation.  :thumbup:

I have a 2.5m tall by 4m wide heavenly blue vine crawling up my fence, and it does indeed yield thousands of seeds each year (amazing, since I planted it in march, 2005).
Not only are they easy to grow and give high yield, but they are an extremely reliable, fresh source, making dosing a simple and precise process.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5736797 - 06/11/06 01:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just curious... how many seeds does each flower usually put out?


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5737026 - 06/11/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yuck.  :thumbdown: LSA just makes me ill. The more I take the more ill I get. Some people say it works, I just feel like I've been hit by a train and sometimes I even get the joy of blowing chunks. LSD, Mushrooms, X, Pot, hell even booze are all much more reliable sources of getting high.

By all means try it at least once though. Nothing is better than experience. Who knows you might be one of those lucky folks who actually gets someting out of it. I'd advise you to keep the barf bag handy though...


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: no_satori]
    #5737816 - 06/11/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Yuck.  :thumbdown: LSA just makes me ill. The more I take the more ill I get. Some people say it works, I just feel like I've been hit by a train and sometimes I even get the joy of blowing chunks.




This is not caused by LSA, but rather the other chemicals in the seeds. Morning glories have a high soap content, which will bubble in your stomach and contribute to the nausea. I don't know if HBWR seeds have the same high soap content, but it is probably similar.
To neutralize the base (soap), you can mix the seeds with an acid for a few minutes (lemon juice, etc.; works best when seeds are ground up).

--Anti-nausea Sublingual Ingestion Method--
(credit for prep. method to Anonymous user's article at www.erowid.org )

To calculate your adjusted dose, add 50% of your original dose to its self.
Mix the adjusted dose in a shot glass with some acidic juice and some water. Let stand for 5 minutes, then pour the concoction into your mouth. DO NO SWALLOW.
Hold this in your mouth for 15-20 minutes, swallowing juices occasionally (but not swallowing seed matter).
After the 15-20min has passed, swallow the remaining juice and spit out as much of the seed matter as possible.
Enjoi!
(NOTE: the only documented test of this method is for HBWR seeds. Many people find it hard to hold any amount of MG seeds in their mouth, much less for 15-20 minutes)


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5738361 - 06/11/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thanx 4 da advize


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: PsychdlcMes3]
    #5738631 - 06/11/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Here is a simple way to process morning glory seeds which produces the best possible results as well:


Equipment:

Coffee Grinder or equivalent to powder seeds
2 Jars with Lids
1 Coffee Filter or Funnel
Coffee Filters or Filter Paper
Chemical/Biological:
Morning Glory Seeds (1 seed = ~ 1ug) (50-500ug=1 dose)
Petroleum Ether
Ethanol-based liquid suitable for human consumption in approximate order of preference:
Reagent Grade Ethanol
EverClear or similiar substance
100 Proof or better vodka or gin
151 Proof rum
other beverages 80 proof or better
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Water-based beverages (not preferred (nausea))
Processing Methodology:
If using treated seeds wash thoroughly in detergent and cold water first.
Grind seeds to powder in coffee grinder
Place powder in jar with a "healthy" qty of petroleum ether.
(~360-500 ml/500 seeds (can't use too much, can use too little))
Put lid on jar and shake it vigorously for a while. Let stand 20 minutes (you can shake it more if you like)
Shake jar, remove lid, and pour suspension into filter (with filter paper in place). Use second jar to catch the petroleum ether than comes through the filter paper. (Windows should be open or do this outside otherwise you will get prematurely in a non-canonical fashion). If some seed powder clings to the side of the jar, rinse it out with some of the filtered ether. When finished, you will have slightly discolored petroleum ether in a jar and the powder on the filter paper.
*** DO NOT DRINK THE PETROLEUM ETHER ***. Put the lid on that jar and save it to reuse next time (you can get at least five processing cycles out of it). Dry the seed powder THOROUGHLY. Wash and dry the empty jar.
When powder is thoroughly dry, place it back in the jar and add alcohol. The amount of alcohol is critical, since you will be drinking it later, and will vary according to your propensities, tolerances, and the intended intensity of your proposed voyage. For light, recreational use, assuming reasonable alcohol tolerance use 1 oz. of alcohol per 30-50 seeds. For intense meditation use 1 /250 seeds. If you use a high seed/alcohol ratio you will want to prepare a large number of seeds at a time otherwise you will be working with micro-quantities and it gets more tedious (unless you like that sort of thing).
Soak the seed powder in the alcohol, shaking frequently, for three days.
Filter again, as before. Discard the seed powder (unless you wish to make 'soap'). Keep the alcohol for use.
Drink the alcohol to achieve desired effect.

-Courtesy of Erowid.

Not sure where petroleum ether is available. I'm about to try this method using Heavenly blue seeds, as long as I can find where the ether is obtainable.


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Re: morning glory ,whats the problem? [Re: doctor_gonzo]
    #5738721 - 06/11/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Not sure where petroleum ether is available. I'm about to try this method using Heavenly blue seeds, as long as I can find where the ether is obtainable.





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