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Offlineandtasmo
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Do dud mushrooms exist?
    #5724873 - 06/07/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My friends and I had about 23 grams each about 3 hours ago mixed into chocolate shakes and we're not experiencing much.

This is a flush from an otherwise potent set of cakes. We're wondering if anything could have gone wrong this time, though.

They were picked and then frozen.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: andtasmo]
    #5725028 - 06/07/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Troll.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: andtasmo]
    #5725073 - 06/07/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I really don't think that dud mushrooms exist because in every mushroom there is a chemical thats going to effect you in some way but they only explanation is that your body is


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: JoeCool]
    #5725077 - 06/07/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

used to the chemical in it or you didn't take enough either way its not too good.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: andtasmo]
    #5725102 - 06/07/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

it's not good to mix them with heavy dairy products like milk or ice cream. plus 23 grams wet isn't all that much, so that's probably why.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: nightkrawler]
    #5725154 - 06/07/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

never freeze mushrooms, it's lame.
and you didn't eat enough.

mushrooms are duds when they become too old, or if you try to dry them with hot heat, prolonged exposure to heat, or months of direct sunlight.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: Telepylus]
    #5725219 - 06/07/06 11:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If someone has info on wet+ dud mushrooms I would be amazed. I still wouldnt trust that info though.

Its just a bunch of bullshit. Unless you are growing the wrong shroom(highly unlikely), there is psi present.
After many years of experience(here and there) no actual cube is inactive. No way in hell.

Like the albino cube and all of its weirdness, you must think that some cubes dont have psilocybin in them. Well thats just insane.

Little baby mushrooms grown under terrible conditions have much of the goods. Little ugly full grom cubes grown in the dark are quite potent as well.


Edited by stemmer (06/08/06 12:01 AM)


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: stemmer]
    #5725226 - 06/07/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You probably killed the psilocybin / psilocin in it by either heat or freezing.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: Cepheus]
    #5725238 - 06/08/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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aManEater said:
You probably killed the psilocybin / psilocin in it by either heat or freezing.




I wouldnt know anything about that though......

Drying can happen in little time, and thin air on a plate or some shit.... A freezer shouldnt kill the activity of the shrooms anyways......


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: stemmer]
    #5725373 - 06/08/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

tolerance
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    #5727785 - 06/08/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: ]
    #5727793 - 06/08/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

next time just eat them normally


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: bombin420]
    #5727896 - 06/08/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well you each ate 23grams wet which is about 2.3grams dry in

chocolate shakes and Im guessing the chocolate shakes were made with

ice cream or chocolate milk so probly no heat really involved here..

the only think I can think of is that they were grown off cakes

which don't do much for the potency.You said the cakes were rather

potent, How do you know they were rather potent if they didn't work?


thats all I can say, Good luck, Be safe


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: ]
    #5729157 - 06/09/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

werdnaeroom8 said:
you might of burned up all the psilcybin during the chocolate cooking process/ you can kill the magic with heat.




psilocybin has a melting point of 400 F. Chocolate melts way earlier then that. Most weak shroom experiences are due to low dosages. There is the possibility of a weak substrain being generated. Lots of reports have been filed, and questions asked, about why people didn't trip off the shrooms they grew.

Point is, you can get "dud" mushrooms, it happens.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: coda]
    #5730305 - 06/09/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

also, could it be that it was his first trip? maby if it is like weed for me, it didn't work the first 2 times i smoked it.... maby the same sort of ideology for shrooms..


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: andtasmo]
    #5730972 - 06/09/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I recently had an experience with dud mushrooms...

The thing was..

They looked perfect, indoor Poo grown, huge fruits, closed caps, subtle bruising.. The grower was knowledgable and cared about his product so it seemed...

Then a friend and i ate 3.5, then another 4g's, etc... over a couple hours until we split an entire oz between us... with hardly any effects...

dud mushrooms exist.


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Re: Do dud mushrooms exist? [Re: PDU]
    #5731006 - 06/09/06 02:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I know for a fact that potency varies vastly. Enough that mushrooms from the same cake would have no effect at all? I guess anything is possible. There could be some other factors contributing to their ineffectiveness though.

I don't think anyone mentioned the fact that they will have decreased effects if you've eaten a lot but I'm fairly certain this is true.
Also, if they weren't chewed at all they may not be absorbing all too well.

You can't really be certain, but it's kind of a bummer that 23 grams are gone and you're not tripping.  :frown:
Good luck next time!


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