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Offlineleery11
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Tripping naturally
    #5730783 - 06/09/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I feel like my consciousness is expanding and that my third eye wants to open.

at night time some very odd and sometimes intense-ish things happen.

But I also find myself really thinking a lot about trying mushrooms, LSA [which i have done], or mescaline [which i did but only with tiny threshold effects].

bad idea? I don't want a perma-open third eye but at the same time it feels like my natural energy pattern is broken and my capacity to see visuals is "fragmented" like I would like this block to break apart so that I can see clearly and fluidly and vividly so that in the future I may have an easier time with the "visuals" I have.

what I get is like a lot of blocky letters floating around in a cascade around the outsides of my closed eye peripheral vision, sometimes saying LSD or seeing Ss or Ds.. sometimes vaguely seeming to spell Jesus.

I've seen these kinds of things a bit clearer now and then while stoned... one said LOST probably because I had just been watching the tv show lost.

It might not be a good idea for me to trip at all, the first time it happened I was saying I wasn't ready, when it happened last night I just sat and watched it.

It's odd.

I would basically want them to work on kicking this block out of my head that I feel like is there (and throat too kind of) but in a low kind of dose.

I dunno I will wait and see what the future brings. I keep dremaing of shrooms and when I did them one night in my dreams they made me feel better and very complete without tripping that hard. Last night I did them in dremas and nothing seemed to happen.

it's clear to me in my dreams that i'm always with other people though. so maybe i should heed that.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (06/09/06 01:33 PM)


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InvisibleZorodius
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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: leery11]
    #5731027 - 06/09/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I would be wary of opening something you can't close.


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: leery11]
    #5731083 - 06/09/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

do you smoke weed all the time?


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5731100 - 06/09/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just my opinion/belief...but ALL of our third eyes are going to be opening as the 2000+, 25,000+, and 75,000+ year cosmic cycles come to an end...in our lifetime.

You aren't the only one (someone who doesn't trip regularly) who has this yearning, this feeling...


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5731107 - 06/09/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not going to tell you to take mushrooms or not.

I would recommend reading as much as you can on them, if you haven't already, and considering the risks and benefits.

Although I did not share the same symptoms you spoke of, I did have a slightly degraded view of the world. Things have improved for me since then, or perhaps I have just worked to improve them.

At any rate, only you will know for sure.
Best of luck. :thumbup:


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
    #5731566 - 06/09/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Zorodius said:
I would be wary of opening something you can't close.




well i opened it once last october or so and closed it because it was really weird. again during sleep it happened, as does all these things pretty much.
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EquilibriuM said:
do you smoke weed all the time?



hardly ever and i've been off it for a month or maybe two.

i was driving while listening to dredg and feeling very loving and connected and was thinking that you don't need drugs if you can get to this place on your own.

but it's so strange because the decision is entirely up to me. And I keep going back and forth on it seeing the pros and cons.

My root and sacral chakra aren't generally open at all. there is vibration between the solar plexus through the throat and kind of in the third eye region.

i see benefits to both a life of sobriety and a life of moderate exploration with mind tools such as cannabis, mushrooms, mescaline, etc.

I'm kind of dealing with the philosophy of moderation vs abstinence... like I was just thinking how neat it would be if I had cannabis right now to take one puff so that I could pay attentoin to what my fingers are doing while playing guitar.

because what it does it takes you layers at a time out of your normal patterns, so for example if you have a tendecy to keep always playing the same kind of way it will take that way, cut it in half, and put you in the halves of playing so that you are more focused on the subtle things, and less in tune with your stagnant patterns.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (06/09/06 06:02 PM)


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: leery11]
    #5731577 - 06/09/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think exploration of drugs is good for us who live in high society.

In the east, where society is nothing like the concrete jungle of the US and Europe, the culture is still based on exploring and developing spiritual powers.

Here, we don't facilitate these things, we surpress them...drugs are a good way for us to experience these types of phenomena without years of 'training' and being raised in a spiritual belief system.


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Offlineleery11
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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5731620 - 06/09/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

LazyCrash said:
I think exploration of drugs is good for us who live in high society.

In the east, where society is nothing like the concrete jungle of the US and Europe, the culture is still based on exploring and developing spiritual powers.

Here, we don't facilitate these things, we surpress them...drugs are a good way for us to experience these types of phenomena without years of 'training' and being raised in a spiritual belief system.



i agree.

they are a red pill out of the matrix. i just am not sure that since if i am experiencing things without them it's a cue to not use them anymore.

for example i think the subtleties of light doses may be better than straight out "tripping" (or at least for me right now)


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: leery11]
    #5731631 - 06/09/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'd agree with you, that if you are already experiencing such phenomena, that a big dose may not suit you best.

A small dose might help bring it out, and in such a way you can explore it further and understand more.


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: leery11]
    #5731848 - 06/09/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Concentrate on impeccability for now. Build personal power. In the future if you need power plants, you will know.


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5731854 - 06/09/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I would humbly posit that shrooms might not be the best medium for the kind of introspection you're talking about. They can be, for lack of a better phrase, confusing as hell.


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: Lion]
    #5731859 - 06/09/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You will know when you are ready. And just because you feel jittery before you dose does not mean you are not ready. The unexplainable creates jitters in everyone. Since you seem to have a good grasp on your body and aural exsistances I would only dose a gram if that. Then you will not have the total confused as hell trip. Probably be much clearer and you can focus your energy on something you want to.


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Offlineleery11
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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: Tangerines]
    #5732106 - 06/09/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Tangerines said:
I would only dose a gram if that. Then you will not have the total confused as hell trip. Probably be much clearer and you can focus your energy on something you want to.



would this be radically different than using a mild amount of cannabis? In my mind I envision shrooms to be more "watery" than marijuana..... more fluid and flowing if that, too.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: Tripping naturally [Re: leery11]
    #5732391 - 06/09/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Trying to describe the mushroom experience is rather like trying to hold water...

As compared to pot, there are similarities, mostly on the comeup, as things start to get buzzy, but there's also an aspect that was never present in pot for me.

Even if the experience is not intensely visual, it'll still be quite sensory intensive, and mentally intensive.

The best way I could describe it would be like waking up one day, and discovering your world has changed.(How much depends on the dose.) The world can seem far more interesting than before. Things are active, living, boredom is literally impossible, even in a dull room. Things feel as if they've suddenly remembered they had something to do, and they all set to work doing it, right in front of you.

This is of course, personal experience, and it will be different for you, but I'm sure you'll find some sort of similarities.


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