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majlo
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WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question
#5725620 - 06/08/06 02:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, i've allready had one harvest.
I picked the shrooms just when the vail started to rip....
WHEN IS THE PICKING TIME???? TO CONSUME THEM (i know if you want prints you want the cap to flatten and the vail to be torn away from it)
can anyone clear this up because some pick them (for eating) when they are fully mature some not and so on........
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: majlo]
#5725630 - 06/08/06 02:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Veil torn
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: Cepheus]
#5725637 - 06/08/06 02:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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and that's it?
so if I let them mature fully .... the only gain is on the mass?
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: majlo]
#5725736 - 06/08/06 04:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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They actually don't gain a whole lot of mass after the veil tears. Most growers report better taste and overall food quality if you pick them before the spores drop all over everything. As said, for printing, go ahead and allow them to fully mature. RR
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majlo
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5725763 - 06/08/06 04:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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great info
i was totaly confused ony my VERY first harvest
glad i made the right choice the first time
Why are then many grower letting them fully mature for consumption? just their choice looks like..
THANKS AGAIN
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: majlo]
#5725776 - 06/08/06 04:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think most people tend to let the veil tear for the simple reason that they look much much cooler. And, depending on the strain, I think there can be a difference in size between pre-veil-tearing and full-maturity.
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majlo
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: va_shroomer]
#5725832 - 06/08/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah size sure
what about dry weight? any difference
after all I am growing to get the effect not the looks
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: majlo]
#5726438 - 06/08/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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a dose (3.5grams) of pre-veil torn shrooms has an average of 2-4 more shrooms in it than a bag of fully matured. IME atleast
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: mushboy]
#5727075 - 06/08/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
mushboy said: a dose (3.5grams) of pre-veil torn shrooms has an average of 2-4 more shrooms in it than a bag of fully matured. IME atleast
when you get yourself a nice gc/ms machine and can verify this, please let us know. Until then all you're accomplishing is spreading misinformation.
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: coda]
#5727185 - 06/08/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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coda let me ask you directly
how do you peak them? just want some info from more expirienced grower then me and let me say i just began...
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: majlo]
#5727216 - 06/08/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't see the point in wasting the spores. You need to let them fully mature to complete the cycle .. anyway even if they do weight more .. mushrooms are good for you
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: coda]
#5727476 - 06/08/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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when you get yourself a nice gc/ms machine and can verify this, please let us know. Until then all you're accomplishing is spreading misinformation.
experience isn't misinformation
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Re: WHEN TO PICK THEM??? vail torn or vail not torn? - THE question [Re: majlo]
#5728780 - 06/08/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Paul Stamets states on p. 52 in Psilocybe Mushrooms of the World, that "the juvenile mushrooms are usually much more potent than the adults." So yes, just as the veil tears and the mushroom is still young. I just thought I'd add a professional mycologist's opinion on the matter.
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