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germination question
    #5724832 - 06/07/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so how long will my jars take for the fungus to start growing that white color ? i found these images can someone break down about how long i need to wait also what can i do in the mean time to help the white areas grow ?





also when the jars become that full white color is it time to take them out & start fruiteing ?


thx 4 the help :smile:  :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: germination question [Re: retro_killa]
    #5724883 - 06/07/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

from the point you shoot in the spores

without incubating it'll take around a month

once they are fully covered in white, wait three days then you can fruit them

waiting is good so you know that the inside is colonized too :thumbup:


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Re: germination question [Re: Atheist]
    #5724901 - 06/07/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

are yoou saying that the jars to not need to be heated from thetime i inject them to the time i inject them to the time they becoem colonized ?


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Re: germination question [Re: retro_killa]
    #5724961 - 06/07/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

they dont need to be

but it makes it go faster


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Re: germination question [Re: Atheist]
    #5724970 - 06/07/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well thats is good to know :smile: because i have then in a nice little set up i made getting warm :smile: so i hope it makes the time go a bit faster. also is there any tips i need to know that will help make my growing go smooth & easy ?


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Re: germination question [Re: retro_killa]
    #5725041 - 06/07/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

if its not over 84 degreese it will and it has to be in darkness pitch black.


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Re: germination question [Re: mikeownow]
    #5725096 - 06/07/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

replace a 1/4 of the water to make up the jars with coffee. It made mine colonize alot faster, good tip.


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Re: germination question [Re: kilroy]
    #5725516 - 06/08/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so just swaping watter for the PF jars with allready made coffe is the trick?

or am i wrong?


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Re: germination question [Re: majlo]
    #5725869 - 06/08/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it is around 84 degrss right now :smile: tx any more tips ?


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Re: germination question [Re: majlo]
    #5725941 - 06/08/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

adding coffee works great, see the "speeding pf grows" link in my sig

i do like to use 25% coffee/75% water though instead of all coffee, too much coffee lowers the pH of your substrate significantly making it acidic, and makes it more contam prone. you certainly can use all coffee and it will work great if it comes out, just a little riskier (especially if you steam sterilize instead of PC).


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Re: germination question [Re: creamcorn]
    #5726508 - 06/08/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You can always add a pinch of hydrated lime to balance the ph after adding coffee. I don't know what it is about coffee, but the stuff works. I use dilute coffee at 50% drinking strength to hydrate my rye berries. I add 1/2 teaspoon of hydrated garden lime to each two gallons of soak water/coffee.

If you use full strength coffee, it actually slows down growth, whether or not you lime it for ph.
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Re: germination question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5726817 - 06/08/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I am sorry I should have been more specific when I said coffee, not the grounds just the liquid, glad others caught that and I believe it was creamcoern`s guild that is in his sig that I use for mine TY CC. It has some more tips that help as well. I can testify to that.


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Re: germination question [Re: kilroy]
    #5727348 - 06/08/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i kinda have the same question, i have my jars inoculated and in the incubator i made from the TEK'S here keep the temp on the thermometer at 80 because in the TEK'S it says wrapping with blankets and the jars themselves keep in heat raising the temp to around 86 degrees. I have had my jars in there for about 5 days now and dont really see anything, should i see something by now?


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Re: germination question [Re: Dal33tdude12]
    #5727605 - 06/08/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sounds good :smile: the more tips the better :wink:


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Re: germination question [Re: Atheist]
    #5727630 - 06/08/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SpicyTunaRoll said:
once they are fully covered in white, wait three days then you can fruit them

waiting is good so you know that the inside is colonized too :thumbup:



I was kinda impatient and took the cake out when it became fully covered in white, but did not wait the extra three days. Then I dunked it and rolled in dry vermiculite the next day. Then I sprayed it with water and put in my green house. Did I mess up by taking it out too early, or will it still grow fine?


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Re: germination question [Re: Techno_Raver]
    #5727647 - 06/08/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it'll be fine. ive fruited many a cake right as the surface was finished without waiting any longer.


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Re: germination question [Re: creamcorn]
    #5727667 - 06/08/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The only problem might be humidity, I think. I can't get it higher than 85%, maybe because I didn't seal the humidifier well enough. Would this affect growth time?


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Re: germination question [Re: Techno_Raver]
    #5727701 - 06/08/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

buy perlite its 100x simpler

and your cake will be fine


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