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CureCat
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Re: Gold Tops, allmost certain this time! [Re: shroominDole]
#5726603 - 06/08/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Crazy... so I guess it's all pending on spore colour. Best to leave those mushies alone for 24hrs spore printing, so you can clearly see the colour.
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shroominDole
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Re: Gold Tops, allmost certain this time! [Re: CureCat]
#5727664 - 06/08/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its the combination of spore color AND distinct blueing reaction to eliminate the problems
as mentioned above poisonous Hypholomas in Australia and NZ also have the same spore color like Stropharia {Hypholoma) aurantiaca and Psilocybe (Hypholoma) fasciculare .
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blind_injustice
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Re: Gold Tops, allmost certain this time! [Re: shroominDole]
#5727833 - 06/08/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Happily tossed em guys, theres plenty more were they come from...........
I hope, and this time im taking camera to get natural shots as well..
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MagicalKnife
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Re: Gold Tops, allmost certain this time! [Re: Feelers]
#5729017 - 06/08/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Feelers said:
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The mushroom with the thick base in the second picture is a Cortinarius peraureus which is deadly -
That looks exactly like a sub to me, I am very sure it is a sub.  I would eat that mushroom - and I'm very carefull about what I consume. The little web like "structures" between the gill and the stem are exaclty what I have encounted. If it was Cortinarius peraureus it would not have a hollow stem and would be overall more orange in colour? Also given the context of finding other subs with it I'd say it is very unlikely. The inside of the stem would be brown also.
The subs you have found look alot like the finds I have.
You're right with the corts having a more distinct orange colour. The reason I identified it as Cortinarius peraureus was because unlike the other mushrooms, some of them subs, there is absolutely no bluing evident. Unless it woss extremely fresh and he handled it with utmost care it should display some, if only a little bit of bluing.
Other suspicious thing is the base of the stem. There have been a few threads in the past that identify this as one of the main features of Cortinarius peraureus.
Cortinarius peraureus can sometimes look exactly like Psilocybe subaeruginosa to the amateur hunter and although finding some among subs is quite rare, you can't be too cautious.
If the mushroom woss left in the fridge overnight and evidence of psilocybian bluing woss evident in the morning then it'd be safe to say it's P. Subaeruginosa. 
EDIT: I can see a blue tinge along the base which is a good sign but tread with caution.
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Zen Peddler


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Re: Gold Tops, allmost certain this time! [Re: MagicalKnife]
#5729609 - 06/09/06 04:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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correct - cortinarius species can sort of cahnge colour on damaging - but they dont go the inky blue that subaeruginosa goes. I think that some of those msuhrooms were almost certainly subaeruginosa, but the dried ones are unclear. But as Shrooindole says - its wise to think about BOTH the staining and the spore print -
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