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OfflineOmEgAx1
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What is happening to America?
    #5723719 - 06/07/06 05:33 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

First off, I want to make sure that everyone in this discussion has seen this video (you dont have to agree or disagree with the content, but the content is what will be discussed)

Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime

After watching the film, what are your thoughts? Why do Americans let their voice be supressed as a police state emerges? What can we do?

Fun fact: In the entire history of the United States, there has been around 300 presidential exemptions to the laws. Since Bush has been in office, he has created over 700 more.

Edited by OmEgAx1 (06/07/06 05:34 PM)

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5723798 - 06/07/06 05:59 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

What is happening to America? Frankly, I think that America is losing the power that it has held as a world-wide power, and those who grasp that power are striving to sink their teeth further and further into that power.

I think that we, as a planet of individuals, will benefit from the loss of that power. I think that, at the very least, it is interesting to see other countries, such as Iran and China, become more and more predominant, even as they are operating with different forms of government.

I think that things will balance out more amongst everyone involved in this planet, and that everyone might be granted more of an equal oppurtunity, and yet, at the same time, not having such oppurtunity lessened individually.

Things are changing and things are growing. Those who gain in a specific manner from their current positions will resist such change, and their resistance will produce suffering. Ultimately, resistance will be futile, and we will grow more from the struggle, like a seed pushing through the soil. :wink:

America has always been confident and full of strive to obtain their manifest destiny. We have loss our sense of awareness and fallen asleep. Things will start to happen without us, and we will take in a deep breath and say "oh yes, that is the substance that we have been missing". We will then play our equal role in establishing a great Renaissance.

There will not be much more war. We are not going to destroy ourselves, the thought is almost absurd. We're just having some awkward times as we transition. :shrug: I think our time for mushrooms is almost here. :mushroom2:

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Peace. :mushroom2:


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OfflineBasilides
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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5723874 - 06/07/06 06:25 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)



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"Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5723884 - 06/07/06 06:30 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

Iraq is going to hell in a hand-basket. The trade and budget deficits are spinning out of control, and petrol prices have gone through the roof. Yet the US Senate has devoted two days to a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage that everyone knew had not the slightest hope of passage.

In the meantime, the Senate is now to address the outlawing of flag-burning, another issue dear to the hearts of true believers, but of limited relevance to ordinary Americans.

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5723928 - 06/07/06 06:45 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

I pretty much feel about it the way FG does. Sure there is a break down going on, but its a part of the restructuring we can't see happening yet.

If you are going to remodel and expand your home to make it more functional, you have to break down all the old pieces of rotting wood, faulty wiring, shoddy plumbing, low ceilings, etc first. In the process, the house becomes a disaster,  yet, in time, as the work continues and the clean up and new starts to go up, things will start looking better. It's takes time.

Keep the faith. Not all people living in America are clueless or useless.  *********timing************ :wink:


:peace: :heart:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5723942 - 06/07/06 06:50 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

FG let's start a reality together. I like your ideas.
you too jiggy.

I kind of feel the same actually. I realized people will not tolerate the world ending, and given the power of the collective mind I think we should make it through okay.

The main obstacle is the TV.

Look at google's top 100 videos.... LOOSE CHANGE IS #5. How wonderful!


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5723975 - 06/07/06 07:02 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

I think the world is now entering what may be the biggest energy crisis to ever hit humanity. I don't think this will be a short crisis, or one that is at all avoidable. It all comes down to readily available energy - which we no longer have from this point on.

The state of America (and the rest of the world) today is a direct result of this crisis. We in the Western world have become used to and utterly dependent on our "modern" lifestyle. We have done this, largely, without a second thought to what the real physical costs were - the energy, materials, and labor needed to produce all the useless crap we tend to buy.

We all have a big lesson to learn - the difference between "needs" and "wants" - and we will be forced to learn it during the next century.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
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Edited by trendal (06/07/06 07:05 PM)

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: leery11]
    #5723979 - 06/07/06 07:04 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

I think I may want to leave the ship before it sinks. The average Amerikan would rather go down than give in and change. Don't believe it? Just stay on board. :wink:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5724026 - 06/07/06 07:15 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

all other ships are connected to this one, though.

the people in charge know all well and good about the realism of any energy problems, it would seem that there is probably some solution that they are right now ignoring because they want to milk this way of living for as long as possible.

there may be an energy solution hiding beneath all the incompetency.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: leery11]
    #5724042 - 06/07/06 07:19 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

If there was a solution to the energy problem, it would be in trials right now - the cost of energy is already beginning to have a negative effect on the world economy.

Imagine you are the leader of a country: you know there's a problem, but you also know there aren't any solutions ready to use. Do you bother to tell your citizens? Is there even a point to going public? What purpose would it serve?

It also speaks volumes that so many of the major world leaders today have strong connections to the petro-industry...


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: leery11]
    #5724074 - 06/07/06 07:29 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

all other ships are connected to this one, though.

That seems a little arrogant don't you think. The world wasn't dependant on Egypt,Greese,Rome, etc. for survival.


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: leery11]
    #5724079 - 06/07/06 07:30 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

For sure! I've even noticed significant change in PAL over my two years reading there that the average norm is seeing behind more veils. It's getting harder and harder for some to defend the nonsense.

More and more in the world ARE opening their eyes wider day by day and seeing more. Little by little, people are opening the veils up for others to see behind them too. Soon, more will start taking down the old junk and those with heart, will rebuild something more stable and balanced in it's place.

Look at what happened with Enron. They were also behind all of the planned and fake power outages in California, just so they could charge more for the plethora of energy they always had, how they fell hard and fast.

That corp was a HUGE and Powerful Empire. One woman,(whistle blower) with a selfless heart and BIG courage, took it down. One woman alone started its topple, like with the push of the first domino.

Little by little, day by day........timing.

We all still have to live in the house (country) while its undergoing some serious and deep renovating. If the renovation crews knock down all of the walls at once, the roof will collapse in on all of us. We don't want that as much as we are eager for positive change. Patience is required.

Wherever you are in life, seize opportunities to pull away dry wall "veils" so others can see the faulty wiring and moldy rotting scum growing behind them. Take part in take downs of the greedy, corrupt, power mongering, il willed, old worldWAYS and mentalities. Forgive the people acting by them, or else you will become one of them. Join in the reconstruction, building for the good of all. Small scale, big scale, whatever. Every little here and there makes a difference.

The renovation energy behind all of this is increasing at mind boggling exponential rates too.

:peace: :heart:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5724084 - 06/07/06 07:32 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

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Icelander said:
The world wasn't dependant on Egypt,Greese,Rome, etc. for survival.




The world wasn't connected to Egypt,Greese,Rome, etc. either. Today what happens in one place is almost immediately known everywhere else - we've formed an interconnected network (and not just the digital kind).


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5724093 - 06/07/06 07:34 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

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Icelander said:
all other ships are connected to this one, though.

That seems a little arrogant don't you think. The world wasn't dependant on Egypt,Greese,Rome, etc. for survival.



no, America is intimately connected to the rest of the world through technology, weapons, etc...

if something drastic happens ripples will be felt around the world, but possibly more like tidal waves.

If they gradually lose power others might gradually gain power, but if we gradually lose power, given we have ALL the power in the first place, it means we've eaten all the food, like the T-Rex, and now all the other dinos are just as screwed if not more, eh?

I dunno...

how can you know about anything? The entire world is very connected and interdependent as far as trade, resources, technologies, etc, go... unlike the world of the Greeks and Romans.... for them starting over from scratch was feasible, for us it isn't really.


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: trendal]
    #5724218 - 06/07/06 08:07 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

Doesn't mean that if Amerika becomes a third world country that the rest of the world goes down. Of course we do have the bomb and we are not as civilized as, lets say Russia. We could easily have a hissy fit and start shooting away just like John Wayne. :minigun:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: What is happening to America? *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
    #5724236 - 06/07/06 08:10 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

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Edited by dr_mandelbrot (06/07/06 08:11 PM)

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: dorkus]
    #5724244 - 06/07/06 08:12 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

but are we heading toward singularity? or is that only if we want to?

i've been noticing higher vibes myself in my community.... peace leads to more peace.... etc.


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: leery11]
    #5724269 - 06/07/06 08:17 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

One world govt.= antichrist :whoa:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5724306 - 06/07/06 08:24 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

Doesn't mean that if Amerika becomes a third world country that the rest of the world goes down.

But, much of it probably will. It is hard to distinguish the "America economy" apart from other economies.

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: trendal]
    #5724391 - 06/07/06 08:43 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

Tren, Are you aware that Brazil has been pretty much independent from a need for oil for almost the last 10 years now? Over 80% of their cars run on vegetable fuels, over there moreso, fuel made from sugar cane.

How did Brazil get that free from the mid east and that far ahead of the U.S.A.? Google this stuff you guys. Brazil, the land of thongs and Mardi Grais has its shit more together then we do.

Our government can easily turn to alternatives. Bush says he is pushing for it now. Whatever about him, others are taking matters into their own hands in America. There is another way and its being paved now. :thumbup:

You will all love whats behind curtain number 3 here

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/economy/jan-june06/biofuels_4-13.html#

Click in the rectangle box to the right of the Biofules Box to watch the streaming video. Very enlightening it is.:yesnod:

It starts off at a restaurant trade show but quickly gets into a business collecting vegetable oil from restaurants and then, into Americas situation and interviews from Scientists and innovators moving things away from our dependancy on middle east oil, oil in general and into cleaner air.

One dude said he was threatened by the Saudis not to go ahead with his plans to manufacture the stuff on large scale or else they would just lower oil prices again to knock him out of the market place. He said they fixed it for the Saudis to go "water their camels" because our Gov will just raise taxes keeping gas prices the same until people switch and convert their cars and or buy new cars made to run on the stuff.

Ice, it looks like the Saudis ship may sinking soon. Perhaps we should be discussing any repercussions of that, related to connections, if there even will be any for us in the West. The people there are already poor. Only the greedy will get screwed and they will be forced to revamp their economies to generate a new source of income from trade. They will have new opportunity to rebuild for the better too.

And with this video clip, its another example of the fall of greedy Saudis and the rebuilding taking place by Americans who want a better way.

:peace: :heart:

edit typo


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5724428 - 06/07/06 08:49 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

Brazil. :thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5724521 - 06/07/06 09:06 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
One world govt.= antichrist :whoa:



??? well ???

depends on who is running things.

maybe we could be? maybe one world government = Reign of Christ / realization of anarchy without violence or chaos.
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dr_mandelbrot said:
peace leads to more peace

I am a firm believer in vibrations and us working as tuning forks. Everyone you associate with is forming you, as you are echoing eachother. Literally. That might be the reason why some monks have to withdraw as their sensitivity increases. There are just too much to take in, and the sensitivity is driving one in all directions. Thoughtwise and emotionally.

Eckart Tolle made a lecture called the flowering of human consciousness. I think you'd love it. Just give me space and I'll upload it for you. It's a 47mb file.



that's interesting and i agree. i think you can post attachments to the shroomery when you make a post.
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dr_mandelbrot said:
I have been toying with the thought of countries and the stupid way we divide our planet. If there ever came aliens to earth, think how absurd it would be if two competing spaceships decended on earth from the same planet. Cause they were from different locations on that globe and competing to get first to earth. It is ridiculus.

If we'd ever encounter extra-terrestial life, we would be gathered eventually. Even the most nationalistic of us would manage to see earth as one planet. Heheh.




what if much like eleven, alien crafts are merely staged as a fake "invasion" so that we will unite under a new world order of sorts (not the peaceful kind i'm referring to)?

Brazil sounds like the shiznit..... but let's paint a good future for America.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: leery11]
    #5724542 - 06/07/06 09:11 PM (18 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Brazil sounds like the shiznit..... but let's paint a good future for America.




The fresh paint is already going up on the walls, regarding a switch to alternative fuel. It's happening. Watch the video stream. You will feel really encouraged! :cool:

:peace: :heart:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5728812 - 06/08/06 10:27 PM (18 years, 9 days ago)

Well thank you all for not watching the video and in no way commenting on the topic of the video.

I'm not speaking about the declining economy and declining power internationally, I'm specifically talking about the fundamental break-down of democracy. Maybe, if you care, go back to the first post, click the link for the video, and watch it all the way thru. The current situation for the US is no secret, but alot of specifics and alot of events that happened need be questioned.

I guess the question really is, do you want to stand by idle as your government commits attrocities equivilent to that of the beginnings of the third reich? Is history really doomed to repeat itself? Why do 70 million americans want a re-investigation into 9-11, yet nothing is being done by the administration nor the people?

Why do we continue to act like we vote for the leader of the people, when we only have the choice of selecting the lesser of 2 evils, and even if another option is available, we are still more comfortable selecting the known evils?

Why are the American people so quickly able to believe blatant lies from the government without question?

Why are the people who claim to be the pillar of freedom so willing to give up any freedoms they had because of a threat that has already been around for decades?

Why did the government let 9-11 happen? (If you dont agree with the foundation of the question, meaning you dont think the government took part in 9-11 and/or knew it was going to happen, please do some basic research on the subject, and again maybe watch the video I posted to get a quick introduction on a subject mostly ignored)

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5728898 - 06/08/06 10:54 PM (18 years, 9 days ago)

"FAIRNESS? DECENCY? HOW CAN YOU EXPECT FAIRNESS OR DECENCY ON A PLANET OF SLEEPING PEOPLE?" -G.I.Gurdjieff


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5729314 - 06/09/06 01:22 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

Very good and true quote

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5729797 - 06/09/06 06:11 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

I think this would be a good article for everyone to read.... full of disturbing things.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen


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"Centuries ago, sailors on long voyages used to leave a pair of pigs on every deserted island. Or ... a pair of goats. Either way, on any future visit, the island would be a source of meat. These islands, they were pristine. These were home to breeds of birds with no natural predators. Breeds of birds that lived nowhere else on earth. The plants there, without enemies they evolved without thorns or poisons. Without predators and enemies, these islands, they were paradise. The sailors, the next time they visited these islands, the only things still there would be herds of goats or pigs. Does this remind you of anything? Maybe the ol' Adam and Eve story? You ever wonder when God's coming back with a lot of barbecue sauce?"
Chuck Palahniuk

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5729811 - 06/09/06 06:20 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

P.S. thanks for the movie link... i will forward it wisely


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"Centuries ago, sailors on long voyages used to leave a pair of pigs on every deserted island. Or ... a pair of goats. Either way, on any future visit, the island would be a source of meat. These islands, they were pristine. These were home to breeds of birds with no natural predators. Breeds of birds that lived nowhere else on earth. The plants there, without enemies they evolved without thorns or poisons. Without predators and enemies, these islands, they were paradise. The sailors, the next time they visited these islands, the only things still there would be herds of goats or pigs. Does this remind you of anything? Maybe the ol' Adam and Eve story? You ever wonder when God's coming back with a lot of barbecue sauce?"
Chuck Palahniuk

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5730089 - 06/09/06 09:51 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

As a Scotsman I think that you guys have done not bad. Considering that you built the most powerful nation in the world from a melting pot/(salad bowl...) of nationalities, cultures and traditions in a matter of centuries, you did a remarkably good job of keeping it all under control. Not only under control, but let it flourish. But I think the time is up; Napoleon said "China is a sleeping giant. When it awakens, the earth will shake.." I think that's happening now.


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: mr_kite]
    #5730134 - 06/09/06 10:07 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

How dare you! We've only just began (to rule the world) I suggest we invade Scottland and claim it for King George (Bush). :evil:


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Edited by Icelander (06/09/06 10:08 AM)

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5730144 - 06/09/06 10:13 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

Scotland owns America. You can't get enough of our quaint little kilt-skirts and whisky liquor. :p


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: mr_kite]
    #5730147 - 06/09/06 10:18 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

By the way, what are you wearing under that kilt? :whacker:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5730210 - 06/09/06 10:40 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

It's not a kilt it's a skirt. And Im wearing my girlfriends panties.


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5730213 - 06/09/06 10:40 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

thanx for the link. very powerful sequences in there. Who the hell was that guy that spoke like a priest about "television being the goddamned tool of propaganda owned by the most powerful companies" or something like that? That guy was amazingly good. Or like that republican senator breaking into tears while making his speech. wow.

:thumbup:

I don't know what's happening to America, but its scary, and I hope people will rise to stop these outrageous liars and criminals within the US govt.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing."
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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: mr_kite]
    #5730216 - 06/09/06 10:41 AM (18 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

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It's not a kilt it's a skirt. And Im wearing my girlfriends panties.




Is she in them too? :wink: :grin:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5730355 - 06/09/06 11:31 AM (18 years, 8 days ago)

Na she's in my bra :dogpile:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: OmEgAx1]
    #5730359 - 06/09/06 11:32 AM (18 years, 8 days ago)

I think what is happening to my country has to happen for it to improve. The more people become outraged, the sooner there will be some serious change. People need to be knocked out of their comfort and apathy and realize that something needs to be done. Corruption is rampant on both sides of the aisle and it has come to the point where there is no serious difference between the two parties. In one of these next couple presidential elections, I hope that the American people will realize that third parties are there for a reason.

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5730424 - 06/09/06 11:54 AM (18 years, 8 days ago)

i hope with the advent of google video many sleeping people will stumble across the kinds of films they need to see to open their eyes.

look at google video's top100 videos, most are bullshit TV like distractions, but number FIVE is loose change, a video exposing the 9/11 conspiracy!

i can't stress enough that tv needs to be done away with, it creates amnesia about the most important issues while constantly reminding us that everything is okay and normal.

someone should play one of these types of videos on a major television network, or hack a television network and stream it but that's probably very hard.


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: leery11]
    #5730446 - 06/09/06 11:59 AM (18 years, 8 days ago)

I also find it very important that people with very different views about politics (you and I, for example) can come together and agree that something needs to be changed.

I don't buy into the 9/11 conspiracy, but that doesn't matter. There are problems that had to do with 9/11 that didn't have to do with the conspiracy. It should have been stopped, but it wasn't. There were warning signs which were ignored. Our government is one who can no longer protect us, yet is taking away out rights as if it can.

I think it is very important for unsatisfied people from all political camps to be able to come together and demand some change before things go too far.

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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5730491 - 06/09/06 12:10 PM (18 years, 8 days ago)

that's very true.

they could not even handle hurricane katrina, why should we trust them with out safety and think that removing freedoms will keep us safer?

what would be ideal is if people from broad politicial diversities could discuss these things in public with the common masses. i am not sure how much "they" know... the general public that doesn't follow the internet.

i would be a bit afraid to speak such things where i live. it would be a great idea to hold a screening of loose change or something of the sorts, any sort of eye opening video on how we are using our failures to pave a police state.


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5731406 - 06/09/06 04:58 PM (18 years, 8 days ago)

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By the way, what are you wearing under that kilt? :whacker:




Totally off topic but...

I heard Mel Gibson tell a story once, about the time he spent in Scottland filming Braveheart.

He was in a bar one evening, having a few beers. He noticed some real Scottsmen sitting around a table, all wearing kilts, so he decided to put his mind to rest once and for all and ask them what they wore under their kilts (in the name of "character research", he said).

So he goes up to the table and asks the guys "hey, what do you wear under your kilt?"

One guy turns around, looks him up and down, then says "Your wife's lipstick!" :lol:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: trendal]
    #5731472 - 06/09/06 05:33 PM (18 years, 8 days ago)

ouch. :grin: Never did like Mel. :thumbup:


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Re: What is happening to America? [Re: Icelander]
    #5732064 - 06/09/06 08:32 PM (18 years, 8 days ago)

I suggest, if you want to really help, is to goto other places to communicate this, be it forums or something else, and do what I did

Dont force your specific views on the events, just force the facts, they knew 9-11 was going to happen, and they did nothing to stop it (even though it seems obvious they took efforts to ensure it if nothing else), point out the collapse of WTC building 7 (which the owner admitted was a controlled demolishion!) which housed many financial records... Ohh by the way america, rumsfeld announced on September 10th, 2001, that the Pentagon lost 2.3 TRILLION dollars, and the paper work of it was destroyed in WTC 7. Ack I good go on about the details but now Im guilty of pushing my views :P ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RESEARCH!!! www.911truth.org and such!

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