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Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists
#5723349 - 06/07/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I tried to excerpt just a bit to whet the appetite, but it's almost impossible to excerpt just a bit. Y'all will just have to read the whole thing.
http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/lileks060706.html
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723474 - 06/07/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've had enough of divisive generalizations from both ends of the spectrum.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723505 - 06/07/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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what a stupid article - do you really swallow this garbage?
The terror suspects, according the Chicago Tribune, wanted to attack the Canadian government because of their 2,300 or so troops being in Afghanistan. The suspects, if they did in fact plan to attack, were morons and there will be plenty more like them. What is so confusing about this?
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723542 - 06/07/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Was that actually supposed to be informative? It reads like a reactionary piece of nonsense that you would dismiss if it was written by a far-left journalist bashing righties.
I, too, am sick of reading nothing but attacks on the opposite political camp. It's no wonder nothing productive ever gets done in this country. Everyone is too busy wasting all of their energy discrediting their foes.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Redstorm]
#5723568 - 06/07/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: I, too, am sick of reading nothing but attacks on the opposite political camp. It's no wonder nothing productive ever gets done in this country. Everyone is too busy wasting all of their energy discrediting their foes.
Redstorm, you are completely wrong. You are so utterly wrong. I can't even begin to fathom how wrong you are. How could you be so wrong? I mean seriously...?
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723581 - 06/07/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I bet you got a boner reading this.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Vvellum]
#5723583 - 06/07/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The terror suspects, according the Chicago Tribune wanted to attack the Canadian government because of their 2,300 or so troops being in Afghanistan.
Yeah, like the Chicago Tribune would know. Got a link for that? I've been following this story very closely since it broke, reading a half dozen articles or more every day from a wide variety of Canadian and US media, and this is the first I've heard that any of the suspects have revealed their motives.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723604 - 06/07/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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here
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Canada premier a target Officials: Storming Parliament, beheading leader part of plot
By Carol J. Williams, Tribune Newspapers: Los Angeles Times; Tribune news services contributed to this report Published June 7, 2006
BRAMPTON, Canada -- Some of the 17 men and youths arrested in an alleged terrorism plot planned to storm the nation's Parliament, take politicians hostage and behead Prime Minister Stephen Harper unless their demands were met for a withdrawal of Canadian troops from Afghanistan and the release of Muslim prisoners, prosecutors said Tuesday.
The accusations delivered to several of the defendants' lawyers in a one-page investigation summary included no evidence to substantiate the charges, according to the attorney for 25-year-old Steven Vikash Chand.
"There's an allegation, apparently, that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada," attorney Gary Batasar said of the synopsis of the government's case against his client, which he received minutes before the proceedings.
Batasar said he was not allowed to meet privately with Chand and later told reporters outside the courthouse: "This is not Guantanamo; this is Toronto, Canada."
"My client . . . protests his innocence, and that's not being heard," Batasar added.
In his comments before the judge, Batasar said the prosecution is contending that the defendants planned to invade the Parliament building in Ottawa and take hostages to demand that Canadian forces leave Afghanistan. About 2,300 serve under international mandate with the Kabul government's consent.
The defendants, according to prosecutors, planned to demand the release of unspecified Muslim prisoners and to bomb the Parliament building and decapitate Harper and other political leaders if their demands were rejected.
The prosecution synopsis mentioned plans to seize or blow up the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.'s broadcast headquarters in Toronto, the attorney said.
Harper brushed off the purported plot against him, joking to reporters, "I can live with these threats as long as they're not from my caucus."
Batasar and two other defense lawyers protested the conditions of their clients' detention. Chand and 21-year-old Ahmad Mustafa Ghany surveyed the courtroom and smirked as the charges against them were read. Their hands were cuffed and they were each shackled to a third defendant, an 18-year-old who was a juvenile at the time of the alleged crimes and appeared confused about the proceedings.
A chaotic parade of handcuffed and manacled defendants in white T-shirts and gray trousers was escorted into the small, packed courtroom of Judge Maurice Hudson at the Ontario Court of Justice in this Toronto suburb. Outside, hundreds of reporters swarmed lawyers and defendants' relatives, eager for details of a case that has jolted Canadians and led to criticism of the nation's liberal immigration policies.
Heeding federal prosecutor Jim Leising's appeal for maximum-security confinement, Hudson ordered the 12 adult and five juvenile defendants held in isolation.
Ghany's lawyer, Rocco Galati, protested the conditions, saying he had been unable to meet with his client without security guards listening in.
Bail hearings were postponed until later this month for all 15 defendants who appeared in court. Two of the 17 charged after raids Friday and Saturday didn't appear Tuesday because they are serving sentences at an Ontario prison for trying in August to smuggle weapons into Canada across the Peace Bridge between Buffalo, N.Y., and Ft. Erie.
Few details of the government's case against the purported terrorist cell have come to light, but the alleged plot to attack those in power mentioned by Batasar suggests prosecutors either clandestinely acquired communications or had an inside source providing information, according to national security analyst David Harris.
"One possibility is that they used bugs or wiretaps," said Harris, former chief of strategic planning for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and now head of a security think tank. The summary of the prosecution's case might have been deliberately vague to "leave the defense side with questions of what else the prosecutors might know," Harris said.
Hudson ordered the juveniles held in a facility for youth offenders instead of the Maplehurst prison, where the defendants were taken after their arrests. During the raids, 400 officers of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Security Intelligence Service stormed homes and gathering places frequented by the suspects.
"My client is a very frightened young man," attorney Michael Block said of a 16-year-old defendant who was not identified because he is a minor.
Seven of the 17 defendants are teenagers, and all but two--Qayyam Abdul Jamal, 43, and Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30--are 25 or younger.
All 12 adults have been charged with terrorism under a December 2001 amendment to the nation's Criminal Code in reaction to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States.
Nine of the men are charged with training for the purpose of terrorist activity and six face accusations that they sought to bomb public targets. Four, including Chand, stand accused of recruiting or training others for terrorism.
Copyright © 2006, Chicago Tribune
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723613 - 06/07/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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WTF is the point of this? Does this cunt go to sleep at night thinking he's doing something productive?
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Gijith]
#5723615 - 06/07/06 05:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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the point is so that people like fred get boners.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723627 - 06/07/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The bile rises up in my stomach when I see hypocritical Lefties who hate their own people and who attempt to sympathize with their enemies. This strange but putrid almagamation of rebellion, a desire for originality, and the search for some artificial enlightenment is a mental disease. But, the jingoistic Righties piss me off just as much. 
I am a vicious reactionary. I wish I wasn't, but I really can't help it. It's fun to attack people but it accomplishes nothing. Snarky articles like this have some element of truth to them, but they accomplish nothing of note. Stuff like this boils down to irascible ego masturbation. I am embarrassed to say that I actually enjoy it however.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Vvellum]
#5723640 - 06/07/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL!
The Lefties get boners over Michael Moore's rantings in Stupid White Men, but get all huffy and indignant when their noses are tweaked? Par for the course.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Vvellum]
#5723649 - 06/07/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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bi0 said: the point is so that people like fred get boners.
well at least he doesn't need the pills just yet
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Redstorm]
#5723652 - 06/07/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Was that actually supposed to be informative? It reads like a reactionary piece of nonsense that you would dismiss if it was written by a far-left journalist bashing righties.
I, too, am sick of reading nothing but attacks on the opposite political camp. It's no wonder nothing productive ever gets done in this country. Everyone is too busy wasting all of their energy discrediting their foes.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723655 - 06/07/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phred said: The Lefties get boners over Michael Moore's rantings in Stupid White Men, but get all huffy and indignant when their noses are tweaked?
Ideologues get boners about anything that reinforces their preconceived notions. I myself fall victim to this flaw. There is something comforting, uplifting, and self-righteous about seeing or reading something that eloquently supports my opinions while attacking the people that I disagree with. Intellectual robots like to be fed the same thing over and over again because their minds have become torpid. I'm torpid as hell most of the time.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723658 - 06/07/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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noses are tweaked? umm, ok.
did I ever defend michael moore or even mention him?
every political side has individuals who masterbate all over each other with such garbage. the article that you posted and your excitement for it is yet another example of this.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Gijith]
#5723680 - 06/07/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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bi0 said: the point is so that people like fred get boners.
well at least he doesn't need the pills just yet

Phred goes to the doctor's office for Erectile Dysfunction:
Doctor: I'd like you to read some Ann Coulter and the American Spectator. Phred: Schwing!
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Vvellum]
#5723709 - 06/07/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just wait. Phred is going to come out swinging like a madman.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Vvellum]
#5723735 - 06/07/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just find the reaction amusing. What is your (and others') reaction to some very valid points? Not a fisking of the writer (of course not, that would involve actual thought) but a general dismissal of it as "garbage" and hysterical slurs hurled at the one who posts it suggesting he became sexually aroused when reading what is -- let's face it -- nothing more than a more-cleverly-written-than-usual observation of the cognitive dissonance exhibited on a daily basis by the denizens of Moveon.org, The Daily Kos, Z-mag, Democratic Underground and others.
As a matter of fact, Lileks's description is actually less extreme than their own writings on the above-mentioned fora.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723811 - 06/07/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand what this author is getting at. The type of person that this lunatic is describing seems to me to be a rare breed, except in his warped mind, they are running rampant all over the US. Who he is describing is the fringe of liberal followers. His tasteless exercise in "journalism" consists of taking the various opinions of various out-there liberal nutjobs, and extrapolating these opinions to be the opinions of the mainstream liberal movement. It's idiotic and it damn sure is not academic.
I could write a column on the crazies who inhabit the outer reaches of the conservative movement and then imply that these opinions also are typical in mainstream conservatives. I could do that, but what would be the point? None, just like there was no point to this guy's column.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5723953 - 06/07/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems like the author of this article really hit a nerve. Interesting...
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Redstorm]
#5724034 - 06/07/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand what this author is getting at. The type of person that this lunatic is describing seems to me to be a rare breed, except in his warped mind, they are running rampant all over the US.
And where does he say -- or even imply -- that these people are running rampant all over the US? Nowhere. I find it interesting you call him a "lunatic" rather than those at whom the open letter is aimed.
And people like that are far from rare. As Kos never tires of telling us (though his claims are almost certainly exaggerated), his website -- The Daily Kos -- gets more hits than any other political blog. Add the Democratic Underground folks and the Moveon folks and you end up with a not insubstantial number.
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His tasteless exercise in "journalism" ...
Lileks is not a serious journalist and has never claimed to be. He writes books about food and interior decorating and runs a blog -- not a political blog -- filled mainly with humorous musings on retro architecture and old movies. The article is an opinion piece, nothing more.
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...consists of taking the various opinions of various out-there liberal nutjobs, and extrapolating these opinions to be the opinions of the mainstream liberal movement.
I ask again, where does he say or even imply that the people he is addressing are mainstream liberals? I suggest you re-read the piece and get back to us with your apology for misrepresenting his work.
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It's idiotic and it damn sure is not academic.
Thank your lucky stars you weren't given this to read as an assignment from some professor in an academic setting. He'd flunk your ass.
As for idiotic, I say again his sendup of the DUmmies and Kossacks is much less idotic than their own writings, albeit more eloquent.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5724179 - 06/07/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I suppose you should apologize with me for for your misleading thread title as well. I thought those were left for Anna? It seems that you are just as confused as I am, since you were the first one to point out that the author targeted the "Left".
I apologize for inferring that the terrorist-loving American haters meant all liberals.
I realize that he wasn't meaning to be academic, or even intelligible. I just have come to expect a bit more from you, and don't really feel that this sort of article adds anything to the forum. It is reactionary, and it won't lead to any intelligent debate. That much is already obvious, judging by the posts follwing (mine included).
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Redstorm]
#5724547 - 06/07/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hate to say this or be reactionary, but i have learned my lesson to no longer respond or engage in debates with Phred, At one time i used to really enjoy his posts but lately it seems he ignores things and beats the same drum over and over.
Threads like these in P&L always cause massive amounts of drama and end up getting one of the people on these boards kicked or warned.
I will not add anymore to this thread then what i originally wrote.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5725090 - 06/07/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phred said: LOL!
The Lefties get boners over Michael Moore's rantings in Stupid White Men, but get all huffy and indignant when their noses are tweaked? Par for the course.
Phred
Which lefties? I don't think I've seen many Moore fans here on this board. Seriously, why do you bother posting this political pornography? There's no point to it except to give right-wingers a hard-on.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Redstorm]
#5725115 - 06/07/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I suppose you should apologize with me for for your misleading thread title as well. I thought those were left for Anna? It seems that you are just as confused as I am, since you were the first one to point out that the author targeted the "Left".
He certainly isn't targeting right wingers, is he?
As for my choice of words for the thread title: you've been reading my posts long enough to know that I am careful to distinguish The Left from Liberals. To me the terms are not interchangeable, which is why -- if you review my posts dealing with them -- you will note I use "Lefties" when it is appropriate and "Libbies" when it is appropriate.
Besides, I figured anyone who clicked on the link and read the commentary would take note of the title Lileks actually used -- I wasn't suggesting an alternate title to his piece, just drawing attention to the fact that he had written it.
I suppose an argument could be made that the people to whom he addresses his remarks aren't Lefties. If you feel it's an argument worth pitching, be my guest.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5725119 - 06/07/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank your lucky stars you weren't given this to read as an assignment from some professor in an academic setting. He'd flunk your ass.
A professor giving this rubbish as an assignment? Come off it. Even Kindergarten are beyond this.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Silversoul]
#5725187 - 06/07/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Which lefties? I don't think I've seen many Moore fans here on this board.
You ask which Lefties? Let's take a quick run down of the points Lileks mentions in just his opening paragraph, shall we?
-- are there or are there not regular posters to this forum who claim the September 11 attacks were an inside job? How many of them self-identify as Righties?
-- are there or are there not regular posters to this forum who claim America is a fascist state? How many of them self-identify as Righties?
-- are there or are there not regular posters to this forum who claim that Bushco taps the phones of not just folks critical of him, but of pretty much everyone? How many of them self-identify as Righties?
-- are there or are there not regular posters to this forum who -- every time a post is made critical of Islamic terrorists -- immediately respond with the Christian abortion clinic bombers schtick? How many of them self-identify as Righties?
-- are there or are there not regular posters to this forum who claim the war on terorists is a "distraction" from the real threats (i.e. fascism perpetrated by Bushco, to name just one of their favorites) Americans face? How many of them self-identify as Righties?
Thankfully, Moore hasn't released a book or movie lately so we haven't had to read too many posts from his fans for a while. But you know as well as I do there have been times (often weeks at a stretch) where you couldn't log into this forum without seeing someone pimping his work.
It didn't have to be Moore specifically, mind you -- Chomsky and the moonbats who put out the various 9/11 conspiracy videos are pretty widely admired here, too. I just find it amusing that those stung by Lileks' commentary can do no better than to weakly respond with such devastating critiques as "bet that gave you a boner, huh?"
Oh, the wit! Sure showed me, didn't you? That'll teach me to think twice next time I'm tempted to link to commentary critical of the Left!
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5725224 - 06/07/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh, the wit! Sure showed me, didn't you? That'll teach me to think twice next time I'm tempted to link to commentary critical of the Left!
"Critical" is being awfully generous. The jist of the article is essentially this: 
Ideological garbage like this is fucking pathetic. 
BTW, almost every time I've seen Michael Moore brought up in this forum, it's by one of his opponents.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5725586 - 06/08/06 02:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just find it amusing that those stung by Lileks' commentary
I don't think anyone was "stung" by it. Even Redstorm and Randall thought it was stupid. You can't even dignify this as "left versus right" it's just moronic.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5725689 - 06/08/06 03:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is your (and others') reaction to some very valid points?
I already responded to that. The author does not have a point as demonstrated by the Tribune article I posted. Other than that, there is nothing to be said of this article other than you getting an erection.
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As a matter of fact, Lileks's description is actually less extreme than their own writings on the above-mentioned fora.
Well, if that is fact (which I doubt it is), then what is the point in lowering yourself to that level?
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Alex213]
#5725766 - 06/08/06 04:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alex213 said: Even Redstorm and Randall thought it was stupid.
When the rank and file right-wing fascists in PA & L think it's stupid...then you know you have a problem.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Vvellum]
#5726165 - 06/08/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I already responded to that. The author does not have a point as demonstrated by the Tribune article I posted.
The Tribune article tells us that the Canadian government's prosecutors claim the motive of the accused was that Canada has some 2300 troops in Afghanistan.
Note that this is not any of the accused saying this -- this is government prosecutors saying this. A question for you:
Do you believe the Canadian government prosecutors?
If so, do you believe what American government prosecutors say as well, or just Canadian ones?
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Alex213 said: Even Redstorm and Randall thought it was stupid.
When the rank and file right-wing fascists in PA & L think it's stupid...then you know you have a problem.
I love to read Redstorm/Randall posts. Although I consider you all to be in the middle. (not right-wing)
And I enjoyed the article (surprise!) can you say Cognitive dissonance....... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
-------------------- America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure" We have "reckless fiscal policies" America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better Barack Obama
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5726307 - 06/08/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Tribune article tells us that the Canadian government's prosecutors claim the motive of the accused was that Canada has some 2300 troops in Afghanistan.
Note that this is not any of the accused saying this -- this is government prosecutors saying this. A question for you:
Do you believe the Canadian government prosecutors?
If so, do you believe what American government prosecutors say as well, or just Canadian ones?
I am sure there is good reason to believe so. I'm sure the investigators discovered some sort of manifesto or communique or casual communication that demonstrated their plan, method, ideology, and reason. Is this really so hard to believe? All of this is not out-of-the-ordinary for Islamists.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5726683 - 06/08/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alex213 said: Even Redstorm and Randall thought it was stupid.
When the rank and file right-wing fascists in PA & L think it's stupid...then you know you have a problem.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5727047 - 06/08/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alex213 said: Even Redstorm and Randall thought it was stupid.
When the rank and file right-wing fascists in PA & L think it's stupid...then you know you have a problem.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Phred]
#5733473 - 06/10/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That was the longest strawman arguement I have ever seen. I could do better.
So you woke up this morning and sucked Satan's dick and said to yourself "I wonder how Jesus can make me soem more money." and then raped a baby...
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#5733637 - 06/10/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The hallmark of marijuana induced brain damage: contradictory logic and the inability to see your own contradictory logic. The left are responsible for the drug laws and the war on terror.
Edited by Luddite (06/10/06 09:53 AM)
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Luddite]
#5733646 - 06/10/06 09:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You have to be Great_Satan.
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Re: Lileks on the Left's Confused Reaction to the Canadian Terrorists [Re: Luddite]
#5733795 - 06/10/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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