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my conspiracy on the trendification of underground
    #571884 - 03/06/02 10:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

okay is it just me or does it go a little somehting liek this......out of no where blink 182 pops out and they are all of a sudden "punk rock" or as they say punk rawk and then the warped tour goes to the masses.....then epitaph..... they ahve the hot topic which they endorse so much which is owned by the gap.....mtv doesn't liek us kids who are different....who are original it's the suits the suits want to squash free thought.........they did the same with metal.......my guess is techno is next.......everywhere ilook i see the fashion fucks......the world will soon be nothing but posers........operation dig up the underground must be stopped..........damn i'm paranoid


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: ]
    #571886 - 03/06/02 10:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

does anyone remember when kids who skated weren't on every channel and now every 10 year old has dream of being tony hawk they are americanizing everything......it's evil..... i need to leave this place they need to let things be......now i know how the mazatecs felt ......maybe i should stop theorizing while fucked up?


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of undergr [Re: ]
    #571968 - 03/07/02 12:01 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

there is still an underground. you just need to look in the right places. the underground, the true underground will never surface. maybe you are in trendy denial. wake up.


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of undergr [Re: iangato]
    #571990 - 03/07/02 12:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The underground scenes that start to pull any kind of profit making potential will eventually be commercialized. It sucks but its a fact of life. The underground just reinvents itself as time goes on to compensate for this.


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of undergr [Re: Floydian]
    #572331 - 03/07/02 10:51 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

lol oh i know the underground is still alive and well.well sort of..........i just had a hunch that the whole trend would be over by now and the next big thing would be on it's way and these kids would stop being "punk" maybe iwas just too stoned but lol i believed it was a fuckin conspiracy against music


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: ]
    #572340 - 03/07/02 11:06 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

the founder of sell out
malcom mc claren doin over the sex pistols
its been going on for years
sooner or later any subculture gets turned into a marketable commodity


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: mr crisper]
    #572395 - 03/07/02 12:38 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

good. at least this way the potential "fasion fucks" get sucked into where they belong and the underground remains full of the real heads


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: Planet Asia]
    #573118 - 03/08/02 02:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Why not just form your own underground? Why is it necessary to succumb to subculture? All the great underground movements, such as punk, where started by people who came up with their own ways of doing things and living. Other people just noticed that these people had good ideas and decided to follow them.
You don't really need to follow anyone, take shrooms, they'll let you understand this.


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: ]
    #573129 - 03/08/02 02:36 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe it's a good thing? It clears up the space and makes way for new talent. This way the undergound, any underground, evolves.


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: ]
    #573134 - 03/08/02 02:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

the underground its self is trendy, and your an idiot, nobody thinks Blink 182 is punk rock

And if you get your music from MTV, or the radio, you wll be angry and think "why are there so-many sucky bandand only a few good ones"

If you get your music from lives shows found on jambase.com or else where, you will be happy


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: MeltingPenguin]
    #573497 - 03/08/02 04:19 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

okay, the underground is rejection of normality. Certain bands that you mention are 'underground' but shit, they are not real, they are normalised underground. The good old yanks r trying to make everything taxable and profitable, who would blame them after 9/11? (except me, but thats a different story). I listen to bands like the ozric tentacles a UK underground space rock band, the underground will never die - it will never become trendy, because as soon as the mainstreem has caught up, the underground has moved on, we are always one step ahead.

The only way to fully experience the underground scene is to tour your local pubs and clubs who support the indy scene, you will never find a decent and original band on tv, they are all the fuking same - s club 7 or slipknot they are all comercial soft bullshit!

support your local bands !!


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: kyuss]
    #573724 - 03/08/02 09:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The way I look at it, unless you're the very first punk rocker ever, you can't criticize someone else for getting into it after you did, because you got into it after someone else and so on.

A lot of people think that the group that they belong to should cease to grow once they find out about it. I will say that Blink 182 are not only not punk rockers, they are the physical embodiment of the death of punk rock. My parents would probably like that shit.


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: ]
    #573764 - 03/08/02 10:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The original "punk" scene which started in New York underground clubs in the 70's
did NOT have a particular sound. The whole idea of punk rock was to do whatever you wanted
to do (musically speaking). Some of the originals were Blondie, Talking Heads, New York Dolls
and the Ramones. The sound and idea which many people today recognize as "Punk Rock"
was started when a British anarchist, Malcom McClaren (sp?) liked what was happening and
commercially packaged The Sex Pistols.

Real punks say, "Fuck you, we do what we want" and ignore trends. If others follow,
well they're just not punk...


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: ]
    #574273 - 03/09/02 04:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

sex pistols remind me of the fuckin backstreet boys.....but yeah the underground is still well and I HEAR BLINK 182 IS DEAD ahahahahhahaha but anyways lebeling yourself or conforming to any group is dumb i was just saying punk rock belongs in the underground and should stay away from mass productions a lot like mnay other great musics that should never be exploited......most kids who claim they are "punk" and original all dress the same have the same ideas and are a bunch of elitists.....they all hate me because iam a "druggie" but anyways porchcore will always live on


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    #574276 - 03/09/02 04:15 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

and oh yeah lots of mofos, mostly the hot topic sheep and mtv kiddies htink sum 41 and blink 182 are punk and since the warped tour have fallen in love with the casualties and epitaph records(all shit bands to begin with) just as long asthey don't find my precious beer city or recess records........yippydi doo da


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Re: my conspiracy on the trendification of underground [Re: ]
    #574323 - 03/09/02 05:10 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

if im the fuckin man than your the fuckin man as well, so you should point that fuckin finger up your aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssss!!!!!

fuck the mtv mainstream or whatever you want to call it (anti-art)... i dont think its even worth the breath to complain about...


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