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Military Handgun Poll
#5718162 - 06/06/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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WHICH PISTOL WOULD YOU BUY FOR RECREATIONAL SHOOTING?
Please note, in this poll there's no such thing as "home defense" or other such considerations. You'll be solely shooting for fun, let's say pumpkins, cokebottles, cinderblocks and other such stuff. The only things that matter here are: which one would you be most comfortable with as to use, kick and looks, as well as being able to outclass your friends as to accuracy, fire rate, and other criteria. Each of these can turn you inside out so no gory details, its just for an afternoon's fun-shooting in the backyard.
Here's a poll for the military handgun-fans among us!

.40 Cal GLOCK 22

.45 ACP MODEL 1911

.50 Cal DESERT EAGLE
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718170 - 06/06/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I picked the Desert Eagle because I have never shot one and it is so big and badass.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
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I picked the .45 because it's the best overall gun of the three.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Well the Desert Eagle is *very* big isn't it? I wouldn't be surprised that it would give such hard recoils that you'd get fatigue in your arm/wrist soon, and that you can keep score for your friends the rest of the afternoon with a Cold Pack wrapped around your wrist 
I chose the Glock 22 but I found it very hard to choose between the Glock and the Model 1911.
I'm Dutch national and not inclined to go through the endless hassles of getting a shooters permit so I'll probably never shoot a gun. I'd love to spend a week on a military range though, going through many kinds, just to get a feel for it. I wouldn't want to own a handgun, because I feel ACP and LSD don't mix.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: deryl]
#5718188 - 06/06/06 08:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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deryl said: I picked the .45 because it's the best overall gun of the three.
Well, that could be argued.
That model of .45 was the main sidearm of American military forces in World War II. It's definately a solid and tough gun. It's pretty no nonsense.
The Desert Eagle .50 is like a bloated novelty gun. It's almost too damn big to be practical. If you got hit with a .50 caliber round there would be nothing left of your body where it hit though.
Glocks are very technologically advanced. You can throw them in the mud, submerge them in water, throw them off of a building, etc.. and they will still fire accurately.
If I was a law enforcement officer I would want the Glock. If I was a soldier in a combat zone I would want the .45 first and the Glock second (.40 caliber isn't very big for combat operations). If I was out target shooting I would want the Desert Eagle.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
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deryl said: I picked the .45 because it's the best overall gun of the three.
Well, that could be argued.
That model of .45 was the main sidearm of American military forces in World War II. It's definately a solid and tough gun. It's pretty no nonsense.
The Desert Eagle .50 is like a bloated novelty gun. It's almost too damn big to be practical. If you got hit with a .50 caliber round there would be nothing left of your body where it hit though.
Glocks are very technologically advanced. You can throw them in the mud, submerge them in water, throw them off of a building, etc.. and they will still fire accurately.
If I was a law enforcement officer I would want the Glock. If I was a soldier in a combat zone I would want the .45 first and the Glock a close second. If I was out target shooting I would want the Desert Eagle.
that's all true, but assuming the person shooting the gun is a beginner I'd pick the .45. Glocks are not notoriously user friendly, and a DE could break your wrist if you don't hold it right, but a .45 is preety much point and shoot.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718207 - 06/06/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Well the Desert Eagle is *very* big isn't it? I wouldn't be surprised that it would give such hard recoils that you'd get fatigue in your arm/wrist soon
Definately. The thing is a cannon.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I'm Dutch national and not inclined to go through the endless hassles of getting a shooters permit so I'll probably never shoot a gun.
I can drive down to the gun store and get a handgun in five minutes. God Bless America.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5718231 - 06/06/06 08:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can drive down to the gun store and get a handgun in five minutes. God Bless America.
It should be arranged so that I can do that too, but other people could not It would scare me if anyone could get a gun as easy as that. Under those conditions, in a not too good neighborhood, I would seriously consider to do buy a gun. For defense purposes I think I'd pick something more compact like the GLOCK 19.
But I live in a good neighborhood with not too much violence, so lucky me 
But realistically, how many shots could an average guy fire of these these pistols before the wrist etc would become painful/fatigued? To what can you compare the recoil of a major caliber handgun?
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718237 - 06/06/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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A GLOCK 19 being this one:
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: But realistically, how many shots could an average guy fire of these these pistols before the wrist etc would become painful/fatigued?
I have never shot a handgun in order to find out how much I could shoot before my wrist hurt. So, I am just guessing here.
I surmise that you could shoot that .40 caliber Glock all day and have no wrist pain problems. The .45 would start to bug you after about 30 minutes probably. The Desert Eagle would probably make your hand feel like it was going to fall off after one clip.
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#5718249 - 06/06/06 08:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always found Glocks to be too bulky and heavy for comfortable concealed carrying. Even the sub compacts are still too clunky in my opinion. However, they make great sidearms, home defense guns, and target shooting guns.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5718299 - 06/06/06 09:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Id go for a 9mm glock but since thats not listed as an option Id have to say the .45. The colt is also the one you will most likely be able to find the cheapest.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5718339 - 06/06/06 09:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Glocks are very technologically advanced. You can throw them in the mud, submerge them in water, throw them off of a building, etc.. and they will still fire accurately.
Are they stainless/rustproof too or carbon steel?
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718400 - 06/06/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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desert eagle hands down
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: dreamland]
#5718418 - 06/06/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dreamland said: Id go for a 9mm glock but since thats not listed as an option Id have to say the .45.
Yeah, 9mm ammo is fairly cheap. That's why it's a good target shooting caliber. It is also the caliber that 99% of cops carry.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Are Glocks stainless/rustproof too or carbon steel?
I'm not sure. Maybe you should try Wikipedia to find out.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5718459 - 06/06/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Are Glocks stainless/rustproof too or carbon steel?
I'm not sure. Maybe you should try Wikipedia to find out.
If I remember right, most everything in a Glock (excluding the barrel, slide, and the firing pin) is made of a comnposite hard plastic.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: poke smot!]
#5718491 - 06/06/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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What makes the Browning Hi-Power superior to say the Model 1911 ?
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718501 - 06/06/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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im going all crazy, I'm going to shoot my gats and kill people, HA HA HA
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: capliberty]
#5718554 - 06/06/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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viva the deagle
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you need to go oldschool dude...
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718569 - 06/06/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Would have to be the 1911. I've always liked the look of them, simple and very cool. If I ever got one I'd buy a shoulder holster for it too 
I like glocks, but they're pretty chunky and surprisingly heavy.
Not really a fan of the desert eagle. Heavy, chunky and a needlessly big round for a sidearm. I've never fired one but I've held a deactived one, and it wasn't easy to aim because of the weight. I'd be cool firing a .50 pistol for the novelty, but I bet it's a nightmare to shoot.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
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There is no comparison........
It's the 1911, have several to race, defense, and tricked out.
The 50 is completely worthless unless you in a movie!!!!!!!!And then it might 'look' cool. Complete junk, no self respected gun owner would have one.
Now the glock, I just dont like them, it does not fit me like the 1911 which it seems was made just for me.
A gun should fit you, dont buy what looks cool, or stats on a given gun. If you cant shoot it, then whats the point. So dont buy what you want, but what fit's you.
Gun ranges often rent guns, and those would be available, Give em a go.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718596 - 06/06/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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can we have some more choices?
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#5718744 - 06/06/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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#5718796 - 06/06/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The most battle-proven and without a doubt the best-looking handgun of them all (personal taste) would be the Model 1911, but the Glock seemed more practical to me and holds almost twice the bullets, plus a .40 seems a lot easier on the shooter than firing .45 ACP all the time!
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can we have some more choices?
If you or someone else more gun-savvy than me would want to make a more extensive but also *illustrated* handgun poll, then by all means go ahead. I realize there are no revolvers, for one.
It would be interesting to have an illustrated poll of let's say the ten most popular handguns, and see which is the Hippie Special 
OK people: which handguns should be in the big handgun poll, and I'll make it!
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out of those three, i'd pick the 1911. it's a classic. i'd get a kimber make.... but then if i were to buy a .45, i think i'd go with a springfield armory XD or HK USP.
for purely recreational shooting though, why not a .22? for that i would definitely go with a .22 revolver of some kind. they're cheap, the ammo is cheap, and they have low recoil and noise. if you want a target gun with a little more punch, a 9 mm is a better choice than any of those. for that, i think a browning high power is the best choice.
i personally prefer to shoot shotguns, though that can get expensive. clay birds are more fun than stationary targets, and if god forbid i ever have to reach for it in an emergency, i know i have a good chance of winning standing behind a shotgun.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718820 - 06/06/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Let's see:
Glock 22 M1911 Desert Eagle Browning Hi-Power Colt 45 Peacemaker 44 Magnum
any more to add?
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#5718889 - 06/06/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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.38 sub nose, everyone should have one, next to there night stand,
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i would say the same about a remington 870 in 12 gauge with an 18 inch barrel. fuck handguns for home defense.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: wilshire]
#5718936 - 06/06/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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shotguns are a little big for hallways small rooms, in the middle of the night, when you still sleepy, and it could jam, which a 6 shot cant.
But I like my Bellini M3 12g, which is a pump and semi,"Tactical' and it can digest any load!
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: wilshire]
#5718937 - 06/06/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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a shotgun is a little overboard in the firepower department for home defense, but an 870 does have the added bonus of a pump action, the sound of which will most likely send any would be home invader out the door very quickly.
My vote is still for a good 1911, if only because of the simple fact that it is easily modified to fit any owner.
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The Glock .40 isn't a military handgun. Since the SEAL's use SIG-Sauers' my favorite firearm (I shoot for the SIG team), I'd pick a SIG P229 or a SIG made 1911.
I've fired the .50AE before, as well as the .500S&W, they really don't "hurt" your hand. I've nver had a problem with recoil "hurting" before, it's just a bit of a jerking motion.
I've shot .45ACP's for days on end, I once put 3750 rounds of .45ACP through my SIG 1911 in one day. Recoil isn't really an issue, to be honest. I've never once, in my years of shooting, been "sore" from recoil, unless I've been shooting a shotgun ALL DAY and since I don't like shotguns, that rarely happens.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5718997 - 06/06/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why the one im pickin up tommorow  Glock 17 in Olive Drab
stupid 3 day waiting period 
Or a beretta 92fs because it feels so good in my hand hand has very little recoil
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5719017 - 06/06/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's too many large calibers on here for it to be a plinking fun gun.It should be either a 9mm or .22lr because of price.Its so easy to go thru 100 rounds and .45acp bullets aint cheap!!Ha and nevermind .50 cal for the desert eagle you'll be broke in no time.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: RandalFlagg]
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RandalFlagg said: That model of .45 was the main sidearm of American military forces in World War II. It's definately a solid and tough gun. It's pretty no nonsense.
the .45 1911a was standard issue for 70 years, abut the glock, it can endure nothing more than what any 1911a can endure, in fact you have a higher risk of damaging the polymer frame than you do the steel one
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not to mention spare parts, 1911 are very easy to find and fix.
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and the fact that accurizing, repair and even upgrading is simple, even a shroomerite could do it 
high capacity frames are available, it's the most versitile guy on the market
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#5719306 - 06/06/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yap Para has high caps, got one but have never used that one, future race gun. 
I like the idea thought unrealistc, you could drop in to nearly any country and hit the ground running, since 1911 is a very popular gun, finding parts would be very easy.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Prisoner#1]
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the .45 1911a was standard issue for 70 years, abut the glock, it can endure nothing more than what any 1911a can endure, in fact you have a higher risk of damaging the polymer frame than you do the steel one
As far as durability and toughness goes Glocks would endure alot more.Atleast from the elemnts and cleaning frequency. I dont know about crush tests or anything like that.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: buckwheat]
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my 45 has been in the mud and still fired, you're buying into marketing propaganda theres a lot of cops that are switching from the glock to the .45 because it's a much better gun for durability (some of these 90+ year old guns are still being used) I've put more than 20k rounds through mine and the only think I've replaceced was the guide spring and a magazine, my friends glock has a cracked frame from +p loads, it's a paperweight now.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
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I chose the 1911, it's a very well rounded sidearm... which is why it's been so popular with the US army.
It is also among the guns owned and used by Indiana Jones, which is always an incentive to like it
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Yes a glock will look nicer longer then the Colts, if your into that kinda thing. And yes it's easier to take care of,
'What I have to wipe down my gun after every use....naw man that is too difficult I need a gun that is even more idiot proof.'
The 1911 will remain the top gun, until we can get past, cartridges and using powers for propelling.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah im no glock nazi either.I use to hate them actually but i think for anti-corosion a polymer frame would do better than a 1911 and glocks have the toughest polymer frames and also least parts to break.And the only glock i would own would be in 9mm or 10mm only because glock are the only ones making a reliable 10 at the moment.For .45 h&k and 1911
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mine is over 10 years old, still looks better than a new glock 
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: buckwheat]
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buckwheat said: anti-corosion a polymer frame would do better than a 1911 and glocks have the toughest polymer frames and also least parts to break.
mine doesnt corode, I dont clean it every time I fire it and nothing has broken on it yet... gimme a few minutes I'll post some nice pics of it
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah but what if zombies come and i have to run to to woods without a life time supply of CLP? I'll take the g17 and AK please.
Forevery day life id love a 1911 specifically this one hi cap SVI just too much money
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: buckwheat]
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Well shit if were sharing,
Here a two of the 1911, Kimber with custom work and my beloved Springfield custom, two different guns with different purpose.
The subnose is my first choice for a "nightstand" gun I highly recommend that gun for that purpose.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: buckwheat]
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the svi is sweet but you could buy the base model frame from anywhere and add the bolt on accessories yourself and do a little polishing on a few parts and have the same gun for at least $500 less
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goog gravy... those guys are expensive on the parts
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Oh yeah not doubt,
The Spring, has adjustable sites, the kimber has night sights,
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5719655 - 06/06/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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1911 is my favorite handgun, and .45 ACP is perfect round.
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Snaggletooth said: The Spring, has adjustable sites, the kimber has night sights,
mine has the combo, front and rear are adjustable, it's more accurate than I am
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I would have a different set up, but there is no CCW law here,
So both are for competition, though I have not shot in awhile.
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Prisoner#1 said: mine has the combo, front and rear are adjustable, it's more accurate than I am
oh yeah both have front adjustable, just the Springfield has fully adjustable rear.
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we have CCW ( I let it expire) and for shooting, I just step out on the porch, it doesnt get any more convienent
I think what I really prefer about the 1911 is that the whole thing can be stripped to nothing in about 3 minutes
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Prisoner#1]
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home defense go for a 38 special you can switch between 38 bullets and 357. one thing about a revlover it will never jam. that 1911 up there sure looks cool though
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Definitely field striping the gun is very quick.
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it's a bitch to find a holster for, theres a lug on the trigger guard I should grind off... the .45 never jammed unless I was showing off my limp wristed shooting abilities
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Yeah and it has a heavy trigger, lessons the chance of AD.
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the only AD mine had was when my wife murdered the toilet, I have a 2lb trigger
she swears she wasnt fucking around with it
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Your shiting me, your woman took out your toilet, 
I hate AD stores man, everyone is a close call.
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Is there any website that compares guns in depth, for the purposes of education? I'm looking but all I'm finding are stores.
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I was out of town, she was aparently trying to see how tough she looked with the gun, I keep it loaded and ready for use, she blew a huge hole in it, bits of copper were imbedded in the wall, never found the lead. she called me crying about it, wouldnt tell me what happened on the phone so I puzzled over it for 3 days... the strange part, the couple living with us never woke up...
the gun now resides in the safe that she doesnt have a combination for, lest I wake up feeling like a toilet
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: domite]
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domite said: Is there any website that compares guns in depth, for the purposes of education?
mostly it;s personal preference, but heres a site you might like. check it out, not just a few pages, look around.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm
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Thanks.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yea, 1911's are fantastic for aftermarketing. The only "problem" with SIG's is that they are made about as good as possible in the factory, not much need to tweak 'em out. My 1911 has a Bar-Sto match grade barrel, a tungsten guide rod and I extended the mag release.
Also, imo, home defense isn't a shotgun situation, it's a pistol situation. You need to be able to open doors, use your flashlight, push things around and still have positive control of your firearm.
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xDuckYouSuckerx said: Yea, 1911's are fantastic for aftermarketing. The only "problem" with SIG's is that they are made about as good as possible in the factory
you dont need to tweak any decent gun, most will hit within a couple inches if you're a decent shot and the sights are on. the problem with sigs is that sig makes sig parts and they dont make many parts, silly assed patent laws... if enough people wanted custom parts for a sig the market would open a bit. once the smithing and parts are there, you'll see what that gun can do.
most parts are to improve the handling as much as the accuracy and then theres the cosmetic parts that just make it look crappy
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I can't think of anything that I'd need for my SIG. I put Hogue grips on all of my guns, except a Kimber Compact 1911 that has Crimson Trace on it. My SIG, OOTB, shoots a tighter group at 25 feet from the bench than my friends customized Kimber.
A guy over at sigforum does custom smithing for SIG's, I shoot competitions with a 1911, or a P229, that had the factory "Action Enhancement Package", new guide rod and hogue grips. The .40S&W out of a P229 has hardly any recoil and with the heavier guide rods it's really quick back on target, even with higher power loads. The .357SIG shoots damn good out of the gun with the new guide rods.
I prefer reliability over accuracy. Like my M1A, so many guys do so much to make their guns shoot a 1/4MOA but the guns lose some reliability. My M1A is pretty much all stock, minus a free floated barrel and the EO Tech on it.
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my mom had an old garand before the NFA laws were passed, with an auto rifle people should be thrilled with 1/2 MOA, theer are people that do a few custom parts and smithing for SIG but it's still a fairly closed market
my .45 was the best shooting and most accurate I've had out of the box, a chap ass little makarov was a close second but it shot like shit
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Well I differ I like the "add ons" like,
deep mag well,
Top serrations, and sides,
full checkering around the grip,
Square and checkering of the Trigger guard,
checkering of the heal
Ambidextrous safety, with serrations
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5720391 - 06/06/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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fuck a glock...i think the accuracy of a glock sucks my sack. i bought a jericho 941 made by IMI, they also make the uzi and the desert eagle, its deadly accurate. i really like a sig sauer in the .40 calber and ruger in .45
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I love books, and when I get interested in something the first thing that I do is get a few books
Here are a few good reads,
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
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.50 Cal DESERT EAGLE
No doubt about it. I've wanted one ever since I knew that they existed.
I've got no problem worrying about the recoil because I fire large handguns all of the time. My largest is a 30-30 Thompson Center contender pistol with a 14 inch bull barrel. That gun has given a few of my friends and family black eyes, busted lips and bloody noses because they didn't hold it correctly.
A Desert Eagle would make a fine new addition to my collection.
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sorry about your penis
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sorry about your penis
Yeah, she sucked a bit too hard and left a hicky but overall it was a good job.
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#5720597 - 06/06/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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All I know is if I am in a gun fit, I wish hope pray
That they have that .50 Cal DE,
Cause then I would not be as threaten, it's obvious that they dont know shit, not to mention that I can get 3-4 shots off as they are working on there second
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sorry about your penis
haha.... my uncle has a .50AE and drives a Viper... I always feel bad for my aunt.
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But that would be true with a .22 
The point I was making is if even that, there would be a great chance that the shot will go wild since the only ones that would get it has not a clue of tactics or anything, and as they try to line up the next, I could have two in the chest and one in the head from 25yrds 
Cause that gun has no place outside of the movies.
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it really impresses the ladies
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Yes it could,
So is holding the gun sideways.....waaaaay cool bro 
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Why not USP 45 tactical? Or Mark 23?
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The USP 45s are cool, but I just see the need for the expense.
And there so big, a 1911 really is slender and fits well.
I dont think anything outside of a leg holster would be comfortable.
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I always wanted a gun with a supressor attached to it,anyone ever fired with one on?
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Not many well have, that is very very illegal
Outside LF or Military.
I have never be able to use one, but have seen them in action, well it was a .22 something or the other.
Nothing like the movies!!!! that is for sure there is a lot of noise, as the gun cycles and the silence only dose so much.
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Quite a few. I have a 10/22 that has a integral suppressor in the barrel. Paid the $200 ATF transfer tax and fortunatly I live in a pro-RKBA state, took just under three months. A friend has a suppressor on his AR and I'm thinking of geting one for the M1A
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Only homemade. They weren't extremely effective. Basically they only muffled the sound to a moderate degree.
There is a gun shop/firing range nearby that has silenced handguns that you can rent and fire in their indoor firing range. They also rent full auto weapons.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Ekstaza]
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I just got the Glock. Man i fucking love this thing!The big blocky slide is great and easy to pull. Beautiful by simplicity very little parts just like the AK. For some reason i absolutely love this in guns,minimalism at it's best.
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Glocks are ok. If you like tupper-ware firearms, that is 
Which G did you end up getting? Have you fired it much? I had to run into the bar today and cover a shift after two guys quit under 'odd' circumstances last night, and I grabbed my G23 to take in with me in case some shit went down. Put some good grips on it, some trijicon or mepro sights and it'll be a darn nice gun.
Still not a SIG, though
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Alrighty then if no one likes my USP 45 tactical suggestion/Mark 23, how about a FN's Five-Seven?
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 Or at least the best gun I own. The Ruger 480cal double action is all I need  WR
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The USP is a great gun, I was shooting one the other day at the range... the guy that brought it was a MASTER with it. We were shooting from the 75 yard line and he was getting center mass shots, grouped, every time. Up close and personal, it couldn't beat my SIG though FN's are pretty good, but nuffin beats a M1A/M14. I'm thinking about getting a Fulton Arms M14 in the near future, custom.
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Which G did you end up getting? Have you fired it much? I had to run into the bar today and cover a shift after two guys quit under 'odd' circumstances last night, and I grabbed my G23 to take in with me in case some shit went down. Put some good grips on it, some trijicon or mepro sights and it'll be a darn nice gun.
Still not a SIG, though
The 17.. I just finished cleaning it and im shooting it tomorrow.
I hear good things about sigs i really dont like how they look but i'll probably end up liking them, hell i used to absolutly hate Glocks.Just not anytime soon 4 new guns in 2 weeks this shit is adictive!
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What 'generation' glock is it? Does it have rails and a metal tag on the underside of the frame with the S/N? The 3rd Gen Glocks are pretty damn nice. I'd definately drop some night sights in it.
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Yeah its a gen 3. and im ordering night sights along with 33rd mags
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shotguns are a little big for hallways small rooms, in the middle of the night, when you still sleepy, and it could jam, which a 6 shot cant.
[rambo part]yeah, if you're going to be moving around and clearing rooms, a handgun can be good. unless you have an absolute need to do that though, i think their lack of power makes them undesirable for home defense. a shot from a handgun has a very low chance of immediately incapacitating someone, especially when they are high on adrenaline and who knows what else, and you are feeling just a bit shaky. a shotgun on the other hand will stop someone very fast.
i suppose it depends on your strategy. i think it's a terrible idea to go around trying to clear rooms. i say just get your weapon ready, call the cops, pick a defensive position, and sit tight. you should be in the dark, covering a lit area through which an intruder must pass to endanger you. a stairway is a good choke point. no need to go creeping around from room to room when you're at the top of the stairs waiting in the shadows with a shotgun and the only way up is by passing through the lit landing below. it depends on living situation and home layout though, so something like that isn't possible for everyone. most of the "experts" on this though will agree that a shotgun is generally best for home defense (it's also the best for hunting, and for me, recreation).[/rambo part]
again to the original poster... the 1911 is a classic. it's my understanding that most can use a good once over by a competent gunsmith out of the box. kimbers are very nice. it's a good all around pistol if you're going to buy just one gun. a .357 revolver is another good choice because it's reliable and you have a choice of loading it with lighter .38 rounds for at the range.
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: wilshire]
#5724852 - 06/07/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fire first.
 Shatter a pumpkin.
After I fire off the cannon I'd pull this one on the squash

American.
Next, when it's raining, can go wrong with one of these
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Re: Military Handgun Poll [Re: Asante]
#5727138 - 06/08/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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