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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: Delusions of grandeur - a tricky trap. [Re: Fospher]
    #5719309 - 06/06/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Fospher said:
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Icelander said:
I usually can tell what a persons point is that easily. I don't need alot of verbose detail. )




How can you know what I am about to say? You don't have the knowledge of everything any member can post in the board, so how can you grant yourself the authority of saying otherwise?

Your self-importance will be your demise.  :thumbdown:




You mean your self importance don't you? Why do you think I need to read every word you write? If I miss something, who cares? If it's important, I'll get it later.

And like I said, I'm only usually right. Also,I have every right to grant myself anything I want, whether brilliant or dumb. :tongue: So get over it. :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


Edited by Icelander (06/06/06 03:06 PM)


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OfflineFospher
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Re: Delusions of grandeur - a tricky trap. [Re: Icelander]
    #5719491 - 06/06/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I know what you are but what am I? :lol:

Maybe instead of reading those Castaneda books, you could just stare at the cover for a little. I mean, you won't know what the author is actually talking about, but with your psychic powers, there's no need right?


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Re: Delusions of grandeur - a tricky trap. [Re: Icelander]
    #5719492 - 06/06/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

But, you read all of my posts... right?


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Re: Delusions of grandeur - a tricky trap. [Re: dorkus]
    #5719566 - 06/06/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have been accused of having delusions of granduer, and i must admit this is true.

However, I don't think that these 'delusions' are harmful or dangerous because I keep them contained in my mind and don't act on them unless I'm sure the action will benefit those around me. Just because I think I'm an immortal god doesn't mean I think I can go around stealing, raping, and killing. But if I had to die to save an innocent life, I would, and its my faith that would help me do this.

At a point in every acid-head's life, he realizes that he is God or Jesus or whatever. The trick is not to let it get to you, not to let the power control you to the point where it causes you to do things that are destructive to yourself and those around you.

There is nothing wrong with delusions of granduer if it helps you to be a better person. It gets bad when people use their delusions as an excuse to commit evil.

I have often said, enlightenment is the realization that you can do whatever you want, but choose to do the right thing, not to strive with the world, but to use your gifts for good! This is the difference between Jesus and Manson. Both were enlightened by 'delusions' of granduer. Both believed that they were god; the difference between the two was that Jesus saw his power as a way to help others, whereas Manson saw his power as a blank check to do whatever he wanted, no matter what the consequence.

I have many 'delusions' of grandeur. I believe I am a son of God (but not THE son, obviously God has many children). I believe I have the power to heal and enlighten others. I believe I have a liscense to kill and steal. But I never kill anyone, and choose instead to earn my living, instead of feeling entitled to a free ride because of my importance. Many have tried to follow me and worship me, and I have turned them all away and told them to seek God in themselves, not in me. I have healed many people, but I always advise them to get a second opinion from another doctor, not to take my word for it. I don't want to be irresponsible with the people I am trying to help.

Now, like i said, what it all boils down to is, are your 'delusions' (I prefer to call them 'beliefs') helpful or destructive? If a delusion can help you be a better person, I don't see anything wrong with it. If a delusion makes you destructive to yourself or others, you should seek help in ridding yourself of this unhealthy belief.


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Invisibledorkus
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Re: Delusions of grandeur - a tricky trap. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5719626 - 06/06/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Good words, DJ.

What I've reacted on, is your quick and judgmental attitude that sometimes shines through. It's like you find comfort in your own suffering because you know that they will be punished and tormented. Instead of seeing them as ignorant. Evil is nothing but ignorance in my opinion, and we would all do better if we constantly recognized our nature as One. Therefore I wouldn't voluneerly inflict suffering upon no-one. Everyone deserves bliss. People who hurt you, are hurting themselves and you probably know that. It might be true at least.

Compassion is where it's at, don't you think?

That is why you should have sympathy for the devil.

Your writings often astonishes me with clarity and I share so many of your thoughts. I would love to see a more gentle, forgiving approach in your posts.

In my opinion you are an assett (sp?) to this community as long as you refrain from spewing hate.

Our essence might be love. Veils of confusion most often hide it from us. Let's try to be forgiving.

Could this be a better, more including way toward union?


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Re: Delusions of grandeur - a tricky trap. [Re: dorkus]
    #5719666 - 06/06/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well, its often hard to be a loving person when you are living in a hateful society. I live in Dallas, the 'city of hate'.

I am not a negative person, but often I am confronted by negative energy the likes of which most happy-go-lucky california hippy types have never even dreamed about in their worst nightmares.

Often I feel like Donnie Brasco, a good cop who's been corrupted by his undercover assignment. Its hard to be a good person in an evil world, and there is much evil in my world.

So I apologize for my arrogance and bitterness, but I ask others to realize what I have been through and how much negativity I have had to work through in my life. If you ask me its a goddamned miracle I havent climbed to the top of a belltower with a rifle, I mean what can I say, this is a bad environment for someone like me. The only reason I stay here is because I'm young and don't have the resources to just pack up and move somewhere else. Also, my friends and family are here, and we support eachother, so I wouldn't want to withdraw my support or turn down theirs, because we need eacother. Also, I feel that God put me here for a reason, to be a shining white light in the darkness that is Texas.

people on this board have often accused me of being an asshole, but if you saw someone being tortured on a rack and he were spewing obscenities, would you call him an asshole and tell him to clean out his mouth? No, of course not. You would realize that he is in tremendous pain and take pity on him, especially if you knew he didn't deserve to be tortured. So don't mind my bitter words, they are merely the anguished cries of a person who is caught between a rock and a hard place.


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Invisibledorkus
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Re: Delusions of grandeur - a tricky trap. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5719713 - 06/06/06 04:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Raise above it. I'm not saying I could. But maybe you can? Give it a try.

I am very encouraged to see your attitude now.

My experience with holding myself too high has never paid off. Reality has it's way of biting you hard when you do. What if you manage to shift the perspective, and see the darkness you are surrounded by as a grand opportunity to work with forgiveness and acceptance. That would take true courage and willpower. Spread the love like an infection.

I think I know people on these boards that went through worse shit than we could ever think of. Erase personal history and looked ahead.

I hope you keep posting.

But don't come around with all that hell and punishment stuff, please. It spews insecurities for some of us, and I really don't think it is the reality you really wanted to manifest. If you had seen that suffering and knew you inflicted it, and you were seeing this in a blissful state, you would immediately forgive and redeem and save. You know this. You don't want anyone to suffer for you, do you? Why should they?

An eye for an eye is a spiral of hate. All discerning minds can see this.

Peace.


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