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Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes??
    #5717197 - 06/05/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ive been looking around for a long while and an idea popped into my head. After browsing the vast amount of information that this site has to offer, I began to think..
Being a total n00b i have to admit I'm very skeptical of my placement here in the advanced topic forum but i got over it and..
Well to start out, i read that once a casing begins to fruit it produces flushes. One after another, after another until nutrients and moisture run out. Is there any way to have a continuous amount of flushes without having to redo the casing. In other words: have a micro-environment that will continue to produce fruiting bodies potentially forever?
If this is beating a dead horse sorry. If not, I have what i believe to be a fresh idea..
When the casing is at the step where you put it in the growing environment container, what if you incorporated a lattice of tubing (inside and throughout the casing mix) that would serve as a circulatory system for casing? What if you some how could inject more nutrients and water as the casing aged, could this work? If so, what materials would be needed, what would you actually use for the nutrients, how would you set this up, what are the risks of contamination and what other considerations would be needed to make this happen?
--Thanks wyldeman007

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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: wyldeman007]
    #5717250 - 06/05/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, beating a dead horse.

not possible.

as for the circulatory system...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5421799

agar had this idea with soaker hose.

but found it did no good in the end.


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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5717987 - 06/06/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Metabolic by-products create acidic (very) over time making the conditions ripe for contams which BTW is the number one reason casings fail to go full term most often when nutes are still available.


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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: hyphae]
    #5721227 - 06/06/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you guys for clearing this up, it's so hard to consider the reality of it all when you're stuck on what seems to be an idea.


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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: wyldeman007]
    #5740119 - 06/11/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Try watering your casing with lime water for extra flushes.

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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: LynxRufus]
    #5740765 - 06/12/06 05:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

LynxRufus said:
Try watering your casing with lime water for extra flushes.




how much lime in how much water?

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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: hambone]
    #5743734 - 06/12/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You could try starting low, about a teaspoon per gallon. Depending on various things your acidity will be higher or lower in your older grows, so you'll want to use as little as possible to be successful, since lime is so strong. If you're not getting much results, or your contaming, try upping it. Watch that your water does not have 'floaties' in it. If it does your calcium has precipitated and your alkalinity has dropped (which means you added too much lime and the water can't hold it). So it will be less basic (and more acid). Also, consider it more of a 'dunk' than a 'watering'. Not saying this will get you significantly more flushes as there are more factors than acidity, but you may be able to squeak out a few more. Which should be more than worth the effort.

and don't use 'dolomitic lime'. too much magnesium. good luck.

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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: hambone]
    #5743803 - 06/12/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Your also going to want to use hydrated lime bro it's water soluble. :wink: I've done this before when adjusting casings where buffers were omitted accidentally, ok a stoner moment.


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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: hyphae]
    #5832607 - 07/07/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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hyphae said:
Your also going to want to use hydrated lime bro it's water soluble. :wink:




Excellent.  I have a bag of hydrated lime sitting around that I doubt will ever get used.  So a teaspoon or two per gallon during dunks?


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Re: Flush Science! Infinitum of Flushes?? [Re: tallgreen]
    #5832748 - 07/07/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

there is a product called liquid lime at grow stores. havent tried it on casings but does wonders for plants.

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