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ULTMA076
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p.subaeruginosa or p.azurescens or other your guess
#5716748 - 06/05/06 09:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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these are all from the same small area about 2m^2 in the south island of new zealnd
i dont even think azurescens grow here?
they have hollow stalks when big can blue while still in the grownd and can get quite big

like 7cm across cap easy when mature
have brow purple spores
white gills when fresh
i find others in similar locations with promininent nipple and brown gills probly just oxidation

whta do you think
p.subaeruginosa
they can have white edges on the cap so maybe Psilocybe eucalypta but they get quite big
Edited by ULTMA076 (06/05/06 09:21 PM)
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shroominDole
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Re: p.subaeruginosa or p.azurescens or other your guess [Re: ULTMA076]
#5717187 - 06/05/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you dont want to trust anybody to tell you that every shroom in those large unseperated groups are all safe.....anything could be hiding in there and anyone who does is irresponsible....you do have some SUBs in there but to help you be safe for yourself and not rely on people here telling you some poisonous mushrooms are SUBs which Ive seen here recently (remember...anyone can respond to you on this board and say anything) just remember to be sure that each and every mushroom has purple brown to blackish spores and bruise distincly no question about it BLUE where cut or handled then your safe......there are poisonous lookalikes so both of these traits must be present in combination or dont consider them until you get to that point where you KNOW for yourself.....you can have a poison shroom growing touching a SUB in a patch.
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ULTMA076
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Re: p.subaeruginosa or p.azurescens or other your guess [Re: shroominDole]
#5717342 - 06/05/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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all the shrooms are magic i pick and checked all i have alot of experiance they all go blue on brusie and are in a spot i have been picking all auttum. i also know the mushrooms of my area and know what are not the goods generally in this neck of the wood if its brown on top has a white stalk goes blue on brusing and looks like these its magic(not alot of white stalked mushrooms lots of brown stalkd types and bigger fleshy white stalked ones that dont go blue at all). i have 5plus years experiance and have a keen eye for detail.
anyway thanks for your concern was just hoping someone might be able to suggest which type of psilocybe they are?
in particular the last pic as this is from a different group were all very mature and very very strong. They are distinct in the nipple formation on the cap and gill were dark when picked could be due to age though.
the rest of the pics are from a 2m^2 area with no other types of shroom growing immediately close. notice some have that white edgeing while they are medium-small.
Edited by ULTMA076 (06/05/06 11:35 PM)
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shroominDole
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Re: p.subaeruginosa or p.azurescens or other your guess [Re: ULTMA076]
#5717402 - 06/05/06 11:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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what I meant by SUBs is that those in your picture are as you suggested Psilocybe subaeruginosa.......many claim that there are no Eucalypta that they are the same species as Subaeruginosa (Johnston & Buchanan 95) and Eucalypta was only seperated on minor microscopic characteristics anyway.....Azurescens has not as yet been published or considered to occur in NZ that Ive heard of......maybe Bluemeanie or others know of a similiar species being considered on the table
Here is an interesting recent Eucalypta thread by Inski... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post5565998
-------------------- Worlds Largest 'Liberty Cap' (Cali Libs Confirmed !) ' Comments On Hallucinogenic Agarics And The Hallucinations Of Those Who Study Them ' Alexander H. Smith Mycologia vol.69 1977
Edited by shroominDole (06/05/06 11:51 PM)
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Feelers
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Re: p.subaeruginosa or p.azurescens or other your guess [Re: shroominDole]
#5717514 - 06/06/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some nice finds and pics there 
I'm from Christchurch and have been finding a fair amount of subs - although from only two patches.
Some of your pics - 3rd and 2nd to last look quite goldie in colour - I normally find subs that look like your first pic. There is a very wide variation between this species which is why there is so much confusion.
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ULTMA076
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Re: p.subaeruginosa or p.azurescens or other your guess [Re: Feelers]
#5717602 - 06/06/06 12:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah the lighter colour seems to come as they lose moisture from what i can tell i have been walking past this large crop every day all Autumn and have been picking them once a week, last weekend 3/06/06 was quite good for late season but it stooped raining on the Wednesday before i picked them and frosted for the rest of the week so the larger ones that are more exposed became lighter in colour
its the nippled ones that interest me look how prominent they are and the gills black before i picked them.
Edited by ULTMA076 (06/06/06 12:45 AM)
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Re: p.subaeruginosa or p.azurescens or other your guess [Re: ULTMA076]
#5725716 - 06/08/06 04:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No need to guess - since Ps.azurescens doesnt occur in new zealand and eucalypta is synonymous with subaeruginosa - those are Ps.subaeruginosa.
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