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vermont SHROOMAGE
    #5697606 - 06/01/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Has anyone come across Any cases of mushrooms that have grown outside of where they normally grow, and can climate changes affect the diff types that grow? Ive been hunting,in vermont cow shit and found some that have all the similarities as pan. cyan's. ill post pics when i go back out, but any info would be awesome.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5698842 - 06/01/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

The published ranges for mushrooms are certainly not exact, but copes in vermont? Maybe in another 20 years when the ice caps have finished melting. I bet you have an inactive pan. like Panoleus semiovatus which can look like pan cyan but does not bruise blue.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: xmush]
    #5701099 - 06/01/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hm thanks for the input, but i still havent been able to id them, they arent pan. semiovatus, they have black spores, and purple gills, cowhide looking pale pale yellowish hollow stem,whcih is thicker at the botom, attached to which myecelium. the cap is almosy competely the same color. it is also very round, not bell shaped at all, no pin on the top, its completely smooth, yet again more info woul dbe awesome, and ill post pics by friday.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5701109 - 06/01/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

oh ya the cap is a somehwta of a darker yellow, stil very pale tho, and i havent tested them for blueing yet


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5703025 - 06/02/06 06:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

'Sup Vermont shroomerite buddy? I'm in almost the same situation you're in, and right now am taking the sporeprint of some shrooms I found outside that bear more than a passing resemblance to the ones I grow myself. I also lightly scraped some with a knife, so I'll see in a bit whether I have an active or not.

*fingers crossed*


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: WillieTomg]
    #5704177 - 06/02/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thats awesome, horray for fungus. please let me know what uve found, what they look like and smell like. where did u find those ones growing? because right now the cow fields around here (richmond) have been good suppliers to me. if u have pics of them post them. ill find some soon to post too. oh the spore prints ive found are very dk purple. im almost very excited

good luck with your investigation.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5704259 - 06/02/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Copenlandia Cyanescens(thats right, no copy and paste or spell check.) will bruise obvious blue upun any human contact. Many specimans That have been found were already blue from wind/rain. Dont mean to shoot down your asperations of finding trippin mushrooms.

But you are very correct by saying "horray for fungus". I start to imagine a world without it and quikly slap myself for thinking so foolishly.

Post.Script. I am almost second guessing myself for not spell checking but I am only down to 99.99998 percent sure now.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: doodoomaster]
    #5708528 - 06/03/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)


ok these arent the ones i desctribed above.. but they are some that are potentially tripable.. maybe p. semicalinaeta or whatever.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5708577 - 06/03/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmm i need a closer picture.. the caps are an of white, greyish color. with a small button, of a darker greyish off white. young ones are in a ball, but once the start to get taller and bigger, they become much more conish. the gills are toally grey, not light or dark, just grey, black spored. . stems are light greyish when first picked, turned purple after damaged. hmm what else. stems dont change until very base. very straight and long and skinny. we found them in tall grass, growing in a field off of old cow dung. wtf are these? sorry the pic is weak.but the bottom right and top right is what im explaining. anyhelp please!~


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5708640 - 06/03/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

P. semilactica don't grow this time of year, and even though they have been found in Maine and Nova Scotia, it's not common. Although if you really are seeing some bruising, that would be interesting. Half the time though, people are imagining bruising that's not there. Not saying that you are doing this, but playing the probabilities I really doubt you have liberty caps there. Plus those pics are too small to see any bruising. Take some close ups. Also, do a spore print on a piece of paper, don't make assumptions about spore color based on gill color.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5708700 - 06/03/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You need to read theSticky .
No help can be given without a proper description and some clear detailed pictures.
The others are completely right concerning the likeliness of what you're proposing, nothing can be said otherwise without clear evidence. As for Pan Cyans, there would be no doubt as to their blueing. It is a defining characteristic (cyan...)which would take little to no prompting or coaxing on you part, looking at them the wrong way might do it. I think, if find "active" mushrooms is you goal your time might be better spent away from the dung, in the woods, lawns, hay, etc... Just a thought.


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: xmush]
    #5708742 - 06/03/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

as X suggested....does your camera have the ability to take a CLEAR close up picture of caps and bruising reactions.....those are waaaayyyy to far away for ANY possibilty of ID

set shrooms down and click 10 shots of each pic not moving the camera whatsoever and keep the clear ones....delete the rest


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: shroominDole]
    #5712669 - 06/04/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ya im sorry for the far away pics i didnt take them.. i will make sure to get some good photos hopefully by tmrw, ones where u can see what ive found, and see the obvious darkening caused by bruising. and thanks for the suggestions, i did vernture into the woods today and found some interesting looking ones, ill post some pics of them to once i find my camera cord..
P.s - i know the first species i found arent cyans, someone said thats not possible.. but im telling u. they look identical, exceopt for the bluing, so if u have any info, maybe it would inspire me again.
Horray for FuNGUS


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Re: vermont SHROOMAGE [Re: eyevelostmymynd]
    #5716576 - 06/05/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ok sorry about thje pics, but i got some much better ones tha should help u guys out a little. i didnt get a spore print, but it is def jet black. These things were everywhere after in the cow shit,after it rained, and they seem to grow most when its around 80 degrees, and when in tall grass for shade. my friend and i picked for and hour today and found well over 100shrums. check it oyut and tell me what u think.






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