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Invisiblekake
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Disgusted to be a human...
    #5716140 - 06/05/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Pondering all the wonderful things I'm grateful to have at this moment in time, two things crossed my mind about my predecessors:

The holocaust
Slavery

and there are endless other things that disgust me as well - war, sexual abuse, torture, etc.

and now I've got this really bad vibe stuck in my head, like I'm truly disgusted to even call myself human. I mean I know we have done some beautiful things too, but its truly disturbing to me that these things existed. How do you overcome that?


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5716145 - 06/05/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

humans are rotten creatures


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5716147 - 06/05/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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kake said:
How do you overcome that?




:bongload: :chugbeer: :rail: :mushroom2: :syringe: Take your pick!

Or you just forget about it and overcome it by trying to be the best human you can possibly be and setting a good example for those who may have lost their way.


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5716151 - 06/05/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Realizing that there is more to life then running around like animals trying to find happiness with impermanent sensations.

http://www.iskcon.com/books/bg/BhagavadGita.html


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5716172 - 06/05/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just about all atrocities ever committed were committed by sociopaths and their henchmen.

Nailing people to the cross, medieval torture, the death camps, it's all committed by people pathologically lacking in concience, and not by "mankind" in the usual sense of the word. It's the best diagnosible but least treatable psychiatric disease which is responsible for most violent crime and cruelty to man and animals alike or, in layman's terms, they are what historically is referred to as evil.

Mankind itself isn't that bad, but a well-defined group among us are.


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5716180 - 06/05/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Those things are subversions in humanity, not definitions of humanity


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5716311 - 06/05/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Did you know that mankind has 96% of the same genetic structure as a monkey?

It does take some discipline, but it's possible to live up to the full human potential. Don't feel shame or pity for the mistakes of the past, rather feel love and compassion for those who currently suffer.

:heart:


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: dblaney]
    #5716495 - 06/05/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

99% if you're talking about chimps.


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: Gumby]
    #5716501 - 06/05/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i hate humans


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: Asante]
    #5716812 - 06/05/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Just about all atrocities ever committed were committed by sociopaths and their henchmen.

Nailing people to the cross, medieval torture, the death camps, it's all committed by people pathologically lacking in concience, and not by "mankind" in the usual sense of the word. It's the best diagnosible but least treatable psychiatric disease which is responsible for most violent crime and cruelty to man and animals alike or, in layman's terms, they are what historically is referred to as evil.

Mankind itself isn't that bad, but a well-defined group among us are.





do these conscience-lacking people deserve to be treated as humans then? how does one distinguish? I'm just not convinced but I would like to think this is true.


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5716843 - 06/05/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Have you done anything of these things?  I'm gonna guess "no."  So fuck it, who cares?  You can only be responsible for yourself. 

Look at the bright side of things that humans have done.  Literature, math, chemisty, quantum physics, velveeta, instant pudding, and curling. :tongue2:


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: Atheist]
    #5716905 - 06/05/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:bitch:


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5716932 - 06/05/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5014080

this one won't help. i dont wanna ruin your night. warning: i got very angry


but this might

http://www.harekrishnatemple.com/bhakta/chapter19.html

you might guess we are in Kali
but the revolution is manifesting and has been since around 1980. those timelines are not right.


Edited by sleepy (06/05/06 09:51 PM)


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5717954 - 06/06/06 05:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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do these conscience-lacking people deserve to be treated as humans then?




It's problematic. I think the best solution would be life imprisonment after their first truly serious offense, not as a deterrent (that would not work) but simply to remove them from society. Perhaps some kind of colony would be more humane. Wolves behave better among wolves than among sheep.


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: Asante]
    #5717960 - 06/06/06 05:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm glad to say that I see a very different world than you do.  :shineon:


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #5718046 - 06/06/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

then kill your family.


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5718103 - 06/06/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Anarcho-transhumanism: a political philosophy synthesizing post-scarcity anarchism and transhumanism.


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5718107 - 06/06/06 07:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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KidgardFromSRQ said:
then kill your family.




You're saying I should murder my family because I have a different worldview than Wiccan_Seeker? I don't think I fully understand.....


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Re: Disgusted to be a human... [Re: kake]
    #5718111 - 06/06/06 07:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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kake said:
I mean I know we have done some beautiful things too, but its truly disturbing to me that these things existed. (The holocaust, Slavery)

How do you overcome that?





I try to look at the world from a :yinyang: POV.

For every evil that man does there has to be an equal amount of good done to "keep the balance", so to speak.

Look at Hitler and the "evil" that he did.

Now look back and see how, by pulling together as a people, we were able to defeat this evil.

Look at some of the rights we have today (Civil rights, womens rights....) The seed for these ideas were planted into our society during our fight with Hitler.

Blacks were allowed to join the military....the seed for civil rights was planted.

Women were allowed to work in factories......the seed for womens rights in the workplace was planted.

I try to see the good that comes out of these "Evil Times".

That is how I deal with the destructive/evil side of humanity.


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