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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
#5717093 - 06/05/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Suicide Bombers are closed and rigid of thought. They speak in absolutes rather than in propositions: "this is how it is" rather than "this is how it appears to be" or "I am not wrong" rather than "I don't think I'm wrong".
So, Suicide Bombers:
-make up things -decide those made up things are real -refuse to consider anything that undermines their made up things -spin or discard new information to support their made up things -act according to those made up things as if they were real, all the while avoiding everything that might contradict them.
Replace Suicide Bombers with Humans.....and you have that statement right.
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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
#5720720 - 06/06/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mysticism: the belief that direct knowledge of God, or ultimate reality, is attainable through immediate intuition or insight
From what I have read and understand about suicide bombers.....they have been highly indoctrinated into a religious cult and are doing these things out of a sense of dogma. They have been "programed" to do this through constant bombardment from an early age that "This is Gods will, if you are in tune with God, this will be your will too" So they believe that they are doing Gods work by blowing themselves up. When they are actually doing mans work
Mystics do not rely on/follow another persons dogma......they come up with their own dogma.
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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
#5720920 - 06/06/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Thanks for yet one more new and contradicting definition.  Be that as it may, read again the interview excerpt I posted above. The would-be Suicide Bomber being interviewed sounds to me like he meets your definition of mystic.
Boy, you sure do like to ignore the parts of a post you don't/can't/won't understand.
Let me make my statement a little simpler....break it down for ya 
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.....suicide bombers.....have been indoctrinated into a religious cult......They have been "programed" to do this through constant bombardment from an early age.....
Mystics do not rely on another persons dogma
There, did that make the distinction more obvious for ya.
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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
#5721232 - 06/06/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So your claiming all religious people to be mystics?

Get over yourself already.
From my experience and observations a mystic is one who has shed their religious dogma and found their own path to "god".
With this definition any person quoting from any religious text/dogma.....can't be a "mystic"
Now, if your going to label anyone who doesn't agree with your POV a mystic...then I guess you're right...everyone's a mystic except you 
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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
#5721307 - 06/06/06 11:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you saying that all people who believe in god are religious.
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