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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
    #5716032 - 06/05/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Don't forget to add somatics to the list. The Primacy of Existence can't be verified anymore than 72 virgins.


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #5716064 - 06/05/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Drawing a string between suicide bombers and mystics is a bit below the belt on Diploid's part. Not to mention it's a massive stretch of so-called logic.


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5716543 - 06/05/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think it's fairly obvious


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
    #5720011 - 06/06/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It's about your comparison of suicide bombers and your idea of what a mystic is.

Nope.

The discussion is about A comparison of suicide bombers and AN idea of what a mystic is.

Philosophy 101. Get it straight.




For everyone's sake, it would help if you actually knew what a mystic is instead of using the word haphazardly to describe anyone who doesn't conform to your philosophical world view.


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
    #5720384 - 06/06/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

In relation to mythological arcetypes, a mystic is someone who understands them - and does not conflate or confuse them with historicities.


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
    #5720436 - 06/06/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Glad I could help


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
    #5720853 - 06/06/06 09:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Aside from linguistic nit-picking Diploid, why "suicide bombers"? Exactly why do you select the most obvious example of mythological misinterpretation? A suicide bomber may have a belief in God. It basically ends there as a cognitive distortion (willfully perverting a consistent mythology). As far as I can see, their conception of God lays around the bottom of the barrell as far as primitive, mypoic attempts to understand a universal archetype goes.

If one can't discern a difference between Mahatma Gandhi and Mohammed Atta, frankly their philosophical intuition has about as much usefulness as pockets on a pair of underpants.

Unless of course, you're just looking for a fight, which is probably the case.


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
    #5721339 - 06/06/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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A suicide bomber may have a belief in God. It basically ends there as a cognitive distortion (willfully perverting a consistent mythology). As far as I can see, their conception of God lays around the bottom of the barrell as far as primitive, mypoic attempts to understand a universal archetype goes.

Are you aware that Suicide Bombers say the same thing about you and they are just as credible? :shrug:




How are your beliefs any different than a suicide bomber? After all, I'm sure you share some beliefs with at least one suicide bomber who came and went. Who knows what kind of people these are. Maybe you and a few bombers of recent times shared a similar belief in respect to economics, social manners, what constitutes good hygeine..Who knows.


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Re: Suicide Bombers and Other Mystics - A Critique [Re: Diploid]
    #5721405 - 06/07/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry, presenting a field of straws is hardly savvy philosophical debate.


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