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OfflineTheBotanist
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Need an ID on these shrooms.
    #5714706 - 06/05/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm in SC and I found these growing around some pan. subbs in some grass. It has a jet black spore print and but the gills hang down below the bottom of the cap.









also, these are some sort of concybe(SP?), right? That is what I have always assumed, with their rusty brown spore print.





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Re: Need an ID on these shrooms. [Re: TheBotanist]
    #5714888 - 06/05/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the inactive Panaeolus acuminatus.......good eye on the deadly Conocybe lactea


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Re: Need an ID on these shrooms. [Re: shroominDole]
    #5715179 - 06/05/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've read that the edibility of Conocybe lactea is unknown. That would be crazy if it was really hallucinogenic. I'm not going to try to find out!
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/conocybe_lactea.html


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Re: Need an ID on these shrooms. [Re: TheBotanist]
    #5715216 - 06/05/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think that this mushroom is common enough, that someone would have discovered by now if it were active. Along with microscopic indicators of active mushrooms that I am sure would have been recognized, there are other indicators such as blue brusing and black spore print that this conocybe does not exhibit.


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Re: Need an ID on these shrooms. [Re: CureCat]
    #5715603 - 06/05/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

C. lactea was examined using HPLC and mass spectroscopy. Amatoxins were not found in C. lactea, but the related phallotoxins were present in small quantities making it the first fungus outside of the genus Amanita in which phallotoxins have been detected.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query...9&dopt=Abstract

Phallotoxins are toxic compounds produced by poisonous mushroom Amanita phalloides and belong to the class of bicyclic peptides with a transannular thioether bridge. Their intoxication mechanism in the liver involves a specific binding of the toxins to F-actin that, consequently, prevents the depolymerization equilibrium with G-actin.

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http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/78002875/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0


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Re: Need an ID on these shrooms. [Re: shroominDole]
    #5715614 - 06/05/06 03:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Nice!  great info and links!  :smile:


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