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The trials and tribulations of being a pothead
    #5714025 - 06/05/06 08:03 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

From the ages of 16-19 I smoked marijuana.  I loved it and it was my main hobby.  I spent thousands of dollars on pot.  I haven't smoked the stuff in years because it just isn't fun for me anymore.  Sometimes I reminisce about my marijuana days.  I wish I still liked getting stoned.  If I did I would do it all of the time.  But, I also think of all of the shitty things that I experienced in the weed scene. 

Here's how weed was graded in my area:

Schwag:  $15-$20 an 1/8 ($25 if I was getting ripped off).
Schwag is disgusting.  It is brown, full of seeds, full of unidentifiable stuff (like twigs, acorns, and what looks like lawn clippings), tastes terrible, and gives you more of a headache than a high.  Often it has been compressed which just adds to the shittiness of it.

Commercial:  $25-$30 an 1/8 ($35 if I was getting ripped off). 
Commercial is better than schwag.  It has slightly fewer seeds, is slightly greener, has an OK taste, and the high is so-so.

Good Commercial:  $30-$35 an 1/8 ($40 if I was getting ripped off).
Good commercial is better than commercial.  It has fewer seeds, you might actually start to see some green freshness and crystals, and the taste isn't bad.

Midgrade:  $35-$45 an 1/8 ($50 if I was getting ripped off).
Midgrade is pretty good.  It has very few seeds, has a good smell to it, tastes good, and gets you decently high.

Funk:  $50 an 1/8 (I would never spend more than $50 for an 1/8 of weed).
Funk weed smells great and strong (often piney, skunky, etc..).  It gets you high after two hits, the high is great, it tastes awesome, it looks awesome, there are no seeds, and it is often sticky.

My town never once had enough marijuana in it to satisfy demand.  Because of that it was very common for people to rip other people off.  One of the most common shady things was when people would advertise grades of weed as being one step above what they really were (Schwag as Commercial or Good Commericial as Midgrade).  Another common shady weed tactic was when people would pinch out of bags (even friends would do this to other friends).  In my town, the bags never weighed and the weed you got was almost always a rip-off.

Another thing that was common in my town; people talking up how they could get good weed and it never happened.  I have so many pathetic stories of going on wild goose chases to find weed and ending up at the strange house of somebody knew somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody that I knew.  After hours of tagging along with the person who could "get the good shit" it was all too common to walk away with an underweight bag that was garbage schwag.

Most of my pothead buddies who didn't stop smoking weed and who stayed in my hometown are now all either drug addicts (because they moved onto heroin, meth, etc..) or they are lethargic losers.  I have seen people with overdue bills sitting on their table and they had a choice between paying these bills or buying pot.  They seem to invariably decide to buy the pot. 

Smoking weed also made me feel stupid.  If I had smoked a lot, the next day I would feel retarded.  I actually enjoy being sober most of the time now.  Granted, I still drink every once in a while and I do nitrous (thankfully I am cutting back on that).  But, I like how my body feels when I eat right, stay active, and am chemical free. 

No offense to the pot smokers here (which I'm sure is 90% of you) but I just don't understand the pothead lifestyle anymore.  :shrug:


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5714032 - 06/05/06 08:12 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ay man its all good! Im gonna be back in a few minutes...... this thread made me wanna smoke.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5714099 - 06/05/06 09:17 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You had it easy man... this "schwag" stuff sounds like a godsend compared to the cannabis resin (known as soap bar) me and my buds grew up smoking during our pothead years. This disgusting brown lump is the norm in most places in the UK, and im not talking about lumps of hash like in Amsterdam, im talking lumps of nasty plastic filled dirty unknown cack which as far as im aware only exists in the UK. I've never heard of anyone from the US talking about this stuff anyway. It doesn't even smell like weed or get you high, it's like smoking tarmac and mainly makes you lazy and gives you a headache. You hear all sorts of rumours about what i mixed in with this stuff, everything from diesel to pig tranquilizers... and of course, plastic, lots of plastic. Its not unknown for people to find coins in the middle of their deals added to give them weight. We once found a dead fly in one of our lumps. We were extremely lucky if we could get anything that even resembled leaves, never mind actual sticky green!

I read somewhere that soap bar on average contains no more than 4% THC or something... not that it matters because most people who deal in this filthy stuff dont even know what THC is!


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5714105 - 06/05/06 09:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Awwww.....our little Randal has grown up....how cute.  :smile:


I hear ya man.  I used to smoke everyday for a few years straight until one day I woke up and like you said just felt fucking retarded.  My brain was completely fogged up.  I had stopped reading daily, stopped pushing myself to achieve more, stopped caring about most things other than when I was going to get high later in the day.  So I quit for awhile and did a lot of shrooms.  My brain wasn't foggy anymore but I couldn't relate to the general public anymore either.  No one could understand what I was talking about. 

So I took a break from them and was completely sober for a good 3-4 months.  I felt good and decided to start both back up.  I realize that I'm not a pothead anymore, even though I like the occasional high around friends and tripping....I haven't tripped in months but will be doing so very shortly.  I have a feeling I won't be doing much of either.

Huge doses rarely.  :thumbup: :tongue2:

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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Dfekt]
    #5714108 - 06/05/06 09:28 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ouch... I can walk to a shop that is open from 8AM - 4AM, check the weedmenu and buy some very good weed for 6euro/gram. Never seen a fly, coin or seed in my weed.

And in about 6weeks I can smoke OUR first homegrown:



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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5714113 - 06/05/06 09:30 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'm the same way about alcohol. I drank so much the 3.5 years I was in the army, I don't want to drink now. Just the smell of hard liquor makes me ill.

Weed on the other hand :heartpump:

It is a daily habit for me.
I'm not the "lazy stoner" stereo type.
Pay my bills, always have a job.
Weed is only an added bonus.

I have had the same dealer for 9-10 years now.
Never had a problem with him.
He is a godsend :grin:


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5714114 - 06/05/06 09:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

It's weird. I can still be a productive pothead. But recently, I haven't been enjoying it, at all. This is some top-notch stuff I have, but the high isn't fun or enjoyable and the comedown is awful. It's been happening with all different types for about the last month. It's hard, though, when, like you said, it is a hobby. I also enjoy the act of smoking; it's relaxing. I think I'm going to stop soon, at least temporarily. It's going to be hard; part of me wants to, and the other part doesn't...but I don't know why.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Annom]
    #5714115 - 06/05/06 09:34 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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ouch... I can walk to a shop that is open from 8AM - 4AM, check the weedmenu and buy some very good weed for 6euro/gram.




better clear off some couch space, I'm moving in

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Never seen a fly, coin or seed in my weed.




the few times I've found object in my weed, usualy stems, seeds and sometimes
pebbles, I smoke a bowl and go get a refund... they always give the refund


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Annom]
    #5714126 - 06/05/06 09:39 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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ouch... I can walk to a shop that is open from 8AM - 4AM, check the weedmenu and buy some very good weed for 6euro/gram. Never seen a fly, coin or seed in my weed.

And in about 6weeks I can smoke my first homegrown:







:flipthebird:


I need to move to Holland

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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Annom]
    #5714159 - 06/05/06 10:10 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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ouch... I can walk to a shop that is open from 8AM - 4AM, check the weedmenu and buy some very good weed for 6euro/gram. Never seen a fly, coin or seed in my weed.

And in about 6weeks I can smoke my first homegrown:





Showoff, and make that our homegrown, it's growing in 'my' house FFS  :smirk: :grin:
And btw, you can also get very good weed for 5 euro a gram.

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better clear off some couch space, I'm moving in




Sure you can rent the attic (where the weed is also grown) for 250 euros a month. It does need some fixing up  :grin:
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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5714165 - 06/05/06 10:16 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldnt rtust me around all that weed, even if it was my own  :smirk:


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5714169 - 06/05/06 10:17 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Showoff, and make that our homegrown, it's growing in 'my' house FFS  :smirk: :grin:
And btw, you can also get very good weed for 5 euro a gram.





Oooh you edited my quote. Look, I wrote "our" in bold red capital letters!


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5714170 - 06/05/06 10:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

It has a lock so that should be allright. You could always disconnect the outgoing airflow and get stoned by the smell completely filling the room.  :grin:


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Annom]
    #5714173 - 06/05/06 10:19 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You liar, you just used you mod powers to remove the edited sign  :grin:


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5714174 - 06/05/06 10:20 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I started smoking weed at about 13-14, and even though I do still ocassionally smoke, It's not the same. Its not realy fun anymore, and all I seem to do is get lazy, sit around, and eat a bunch of unhealthy food.

Ocassionally however, smoking gives me some insight, or helps me see the world in a new way.

I'm starting to think that this latter effect isn't worth being lethargic and spaced out.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5714178 - 06/05/06 10:22 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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It has a lock so that should be allright.




aparently you dont know about me yet



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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5714179 - 06/05/06 10:23 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5714181 - 06/05/06 10:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

thats right fucker, I'll steal all your locks!


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5714183 - 06/05/06 10:29 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You ought to ban yourself for flaming in the Pub  :tongue:


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5714184 - 06/05/06 10:31 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

fucker is a term of endearment


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5714189 - 06/05/06 10:34 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm, that's not what my Oxford dictionary says, but with your post count you must be right.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5714209 - 06/05/06 10:51 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

the oxford dictionary is never right


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5714244 - 06/05/06 11:13 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I quit smoking weed about 2 years ago when i had to go to rehab for meth, and i've never been able to get back into it. Even with great weed, i get waaaay too paranoid to enjoy the high.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5714266 - 06/05/06 11:20 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I don't usually buy weed nowadays, but my friends all get nothing but top quality buds. The other day, my friend had the most purple-looking buds I've ever seen. I've never been on one of those "wild goose chases" you speak of, so I can't really relate. And I've only had one friend who became a drug addict, and none who became a lethargic loser(except maybe me, but I don't even smoke that often).


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Silversoul]
    #5714393 - 06/05/06 12:36 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

During the early days I'd have to go on these wild goose chases, to get some OK hustle sack,I've even bought buds from an undercover cop, you defiantly can get into a shady situation when looking for some, sense it happened to me I've been known to pinch sacks, also passing off the yellow pages as good hydro, was a common way to trick dudes who where looking for sacks. Also ballers were getting jacked left and right around my neigborhood, I myself have jacked this baller, who later on became the biggest baller in our area.

But now days I have two good hook ups, very close to the actual growers, crystalized chron cured to perfection, hash, and many varities, if you grow, comming up is inevidable if you don't get caught, if you can't find it, I'd quit also, its not worth all the efforts, take a trip to Canada, bud is cheap and preveliant, but you can't take any back,


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: capliberty]
    #5714736 - 06/05/06 02:12 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The only time I can consider smoking is when I'm drinking and that isn't much anymore. My $50 bag of nice 1/8 BC bud has lasted almost three months now with about a month left in my bag. I really enjoy having drugs around and not feeling like I have to do them like I did when I was much younger. It's a great feeling.

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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Azen]
    #5714907 - 06/05/06 02:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I smoked for 2 years heavily. I then noticed that after a while getting sober felt 'weird' instead of getting high. That is when I knew I should slow down. Lately when I smoke I get 'out there'. I cannot even funtion my mind is just spaced out I end up staring at the floor for a while till it starts to move. So lately I have not been smoking much except when I feel really good with it.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Tangerines]
    #5714922 - 06/05/06 02:53 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i've been smoking for 9 years, since i was 11.  ive had a few breaks since then, but i havent lost my love for the plant.  :shrug:  i guess im just a functioning stoner

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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: PurpleKush]
    #5714966 - 06/05/06 03:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i agree with this topic. i was the same exact way. i didnt smoke all school year but since i came back i have been smoking a bit. i just get bored in my town. i usually only smoke when im chilling watching tv or something cause i get really quiet so i dont like to smoke with people. and i get burnt out when i smoke in the days so i dont do that much either anymore...


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Hitman203]
    #5715001 - 06/05/06 03:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

damn randall. i feel bad for how much you used to pay for schwag :-( do you live in a small town?


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5715032 - 06/05/06 03:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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damn randall. i feel bad for how much you used to pay for schwag :-( do you live in a small town?




Now I don't, but when I smoked I did.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5715271 - 06/05/06 04:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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From the ages of 16-19 I smoked marijuana.  I loved it and it was my main hobby.  I spent thousands of dollars on pot.  I haven't smoked the stuff in years because it just isn't fun for me anymore.  Sometimes I reminisce about my marijuana days.  I wish I still liked getting stoned.  If I did I would do it all of the time.  But, I also think of all of the shitty things that I experienced in the weed scene. 

Here's how weed was graded in my area:

Schwag:  $15-$20 an 1/8 ($25 if I was getting ripped off).
Schwag is disgusting.  It is brown, full of seeds, full of unidentifiable stuff (like twigs, acorns, and what looks like lawn clippings), tastes terrible, and gives you more of a headache than a high.  Often it has been compressed which just adds to the shittiness of it.

Commercial:  $25-$30 an 1/8 ($35 if I was getting ripped off). 
Commercial is better than schwag.  It has slightly fewer seeds, is slightly greener, has an OK taste, and the high is so-so.

Good Commercial:  $30-$35 an 1/8 ($40 if I was getting ripped off).
Good commercial is better than commercial.  It has fewer seeds, you might actually start to see some green freshness and crystals, and the taste isn't bad.

Midgrade:  $35-$45 an 1/8 ($50 if I was getting ripped off).
Midgrade is pretty good.  It has very few seeds, has a good smell to it, tastes good, and gets you decently high.

Funk:  $50 an 1/8 (I would never spend more than $50 for an 1/8 of weed).
Funk weed smells great and strong (often piney, skunky, etc..).  It gets you high after two hits, the high is great, it tastes awesome, it looks awesome, there are no seeds, and it is often sticky.

My town never once had enough marijuana in it to satisfy demand.  Because of that it was very common for people to rip other people off.  One of the most common shady things was when people would advertise grades of weed as being one step above what they really were (Schwag as Commercial or Good Commericial as Midgrade).  Another common shady weed tactic was when people would pinch out of bags (even friends would do this to other friends).  In my town, the bags never weighed and the weed you got was almost always a rip-off.

Another thing that was common in my town; people talking up how they could get good weed and it never happened.  I have so many pathetic stories of going on wild goose chases to find weed and ending up at the strange house of somebody knew somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody that I knew.  After hours of tagging along with the person who could "get the good shit" it was all too common to walk away with an underweight bag that was garbage schwag.

Most of my pothead buddies who didn't stop smoking weed and who stayed in my hometown are now all either drug addicts (because they moved onto heroin, meth, etc..) or they are lethargic losers.  I have seen people with overdue bills sitting on their table and they had a choice between paying these bills or buying pot.  They seem to invariably decide to buy the pot. 

Smoking weed also made me feel stupid.  If I had smoked a lot, the next day I would feel retarded.  I actually enjoy being sober most of the time now.  Granted, I still drink every once in a while and I do nitrous (thankfully I am cutting back on that).  But, I like how my body feels when I eat right, stay active, and am chemical free. 

No offense to the pot smokers here (which I'm sure is 90% of you) but I just don't understand the pothead lifestyle anymore.  :shrug:




This only validates my theory that appreciation of 'the lifestyle,' as you called it, directly correlates to the availability of good weed.


If I lived in the same situation as you, I don't think I'd be a stoner. I never really liked marijuana before smoking high-grade, prior to that I thought it was ridiculous, and that people we're telling themselves they were getting high off that nasty shit.

Randal, come to California and you'll see things a little bit differently, for comparison, I'll make up a little chart which should elucidate on why the 'pothead lifestyle' is so appealing in my region.

Schwag

You don't pay for schwag here, that's horrible, 20 dollars for schwag? Ridiculous. Schwag is given away, typically, and is usually made into hash or some other form of smokable material as nobody really likes smoking shake in my region. Or at least such an action is typically uncommon. Schwag (shake) is usually given away in huge quantities, like garbage-bag full sacks of it, or set aside to make hash or butter from. It is not a miraculous event to find discarded bags of shake thrown places, often several pounds at once.

(I haven't smoked schwag in years, last time I did it was something my friend called the "schronic," or 'chronic-schwag.' It was shake with little buds in it.)

Low-Grade
Not sinsemilla, there's seeds everywhere and minimal crystals, furthermore, the bud does not have a pleasurable aroma or taste.
I haven't bought anything like this except for when I first began smoking. Some muscular asshole ripped me off, I remember who he was though, and I'll rip him off before my day is done because he was a fucking idiot.

I'm sure this weed is still sold, but I don't see it in my group of friends. I take this kind of weed and make hash from it.

Mediocre seed-weed

Growing your own marijuana is a fairly ubiquitous practice in my county, and as such many have hopped on the "band-wagon," however, they don't take into account the proper methodology of pot plant propagation; starting with desirable genetics. Sometimes they do an awesome job growing the stuff, and it usually is either free of seed or only has a few scattered lonelies, but the bud just isn't that great. It doesn't have the genetic propensity to be "dank."

Commercial (mid-grade)

Smells like pot, visible crystals, decent calyx-to-leaf ratio...
Good enough to endeavor in a smoke session with, but nothing to rant and rave about, whatsoever. This weed is always in circulation, and within the classification the quality can range a bit.

Commercial (high-grade)

Consistently good. Usually is agreeable with the palate and produces a decent stone. This stuff is usually shipped out, and then little bits will be around for local use or be sold in smaller sacks locally. This is the "standard" weed, albeit in comes in many shapes, smells and highs. It is without seed, and meets the criteria in smell/taste/high/looks. It is not "super dank," though.

The Dank, Chronic, whatever...

This is what we try and represent in the region. Whether it be super-pungent purple indica bud with superfluous crystal content, or some sweet-smelling hybrid with a unique high, this is the good shit.

In certain circles, this is what's around. It's usually home-grown and within a selective circle, there's an active plant trade going on in which bomb genetics are dispersed. My friends and I try to maintain a collective circulation of this kind of bud. This time of year, the flow begins to trickle though and the only dank dank is usually indoor. What do I pay for this? Electricity, water, nutrients, etc... It sells for over $4,000 a pound in my area. In Texas or some place like that, it would probably sell for over (easily) $10,000 per pound. I'm sure there's places where it'd sell for even more.

Astounding

For me, this would be a rare sativa. Everyonce in a while I get the pleasure of smoking some deliciously-grown sativa, which I absolutely love in comparison to the indica-dominant pot which floods the pot economy. This weed is usually grown by botany-buffs in greenhouses for personal use, and therefor is relatively hard to come by and is usually not sold. I would like to focus my efforts on growing dank sativas and sativa-dominant hybrids.

Point is, in my community people often just smoke each other out, and it goes around and around and around.

Makes the "pothead" lifestyle more alluring. The circumstances you describe would make most people hate the pothead modus operandi.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: Herbus]
    #5715287 - 06/05/06 04:32 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, when I was out on the west coast I got the impression that good marijuana was everywhere and that people didn't smoke garbage.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5715402 - 06/05/06 05:01 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I hope I'm not picking up some sarcasm in your post.


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    #5715408 - 06/05/06 05:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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I hope I'm not picking up some sarcasm in your post.




No sarcasm at all. My post was completely serious. I saw funk weed all over out there when I hung out with people. In my area of the country you just don't see that.


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Re: The trials and tribulations of being a pothead [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5715619 - 06/05/06 05:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I've just realised the errors of my ways. Me n my mate were getting through a 1/4 a day just after christmas (it was free cause he dealt).

Tunrs you into a waste of space. Never again am I going to smoke to that extent.. Just casual joints at parties.

Btw the weed you were getting sounds shit.. My mate was paying 100 on the oz for the tastiest stickiest freshest bud I've ever had. So very strong :grin:


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