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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: fireworks_god]
#5718366 - 06/06/06 09:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can't substantiate really anything, I can only tell how I felt, what you say and how you logically dissect my arguments does make sense,
but as in this statement
--- There was no "negative, cosmic energy", there was only the mental abstractions of the human beings who were aware of the event and concerned themselves with it.---
I did have mental abstraction to the event but really I did not concern myself with it in the slightess, this right here is key and what shocked me, if I didn't concern myself with it why would it play a strong role in my trip, All I cared about was getting off, The shrooms did make it look like it permeated the air, this all could be interpreted in my mind, but I've also noticed location influences shroom trips, if I was camping and had no mental abstraction and had been sober I'd probably wouldn't of noticed anything really, but if I took the shrooms with no awarness of the events, I think it would've still played a part in my trip, I wouldn't know what was going on; I'd sense something was off base and there was a disturbance in the cosmic field.
and if you want to talk about meth., its even more obvious, with that stuff you can definitely tell that location and people definitely influence the trip, its not all in you mind, why would it matter to me mentally if I was in a different location, to get as intense hallucinations, I'd go home tripping but only see my house and nothing really out of the ordinary, but then being around certain people and go out in the woods and there would be all kind of crazy and intense Hallucination's. Then I leave the woods, then they totally seize, why does my mind decipher, woods, intense hallucinations, no woods, no intense hallucinations, why does that matter if its all in your mind, maybe the hallucinations would change but why the intensity, I know its not all in your mind, I know environment plays a part.
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: leery11]
#5721915 - 06/07/06 03:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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leery11 said: Movies for example, you can expose yourself to the best movies ever... and be happy and uplifted... Amelie comes to mind...... and they can make you a better person.
But Amelie is say 80% love. Amelie with commercial interruptions is 5% love. Commercials strip the entertainment out of ANYTHING that you watch, leaving you with a damaged and unimportant product that you are better off not watching at all.
Especially, then, if this product is a movie. There is no emotional buildup possible. In fact that is what commercials do, they destroy the capacity to feel emotion because they constantly interrupt.
A film called The Icicle Thief by Italian director Maurizio Nichetti touches on this exact subject. Add it to your "must-see" list, I think you would really enjoy it. Nichetti expresses his belief that commercial interruptions completely alter a film by destroying the film's narrative flow. In the movie, a director is showcasing his new masterpiece "the Icicle Thief" on Italian television. This film within the film is essentially a rehash of the heart-wrenching neo-realist flick The Bicycle Theif (which I also highly recommend). Nichetti analyzes the juxtaposition between this serious film and the lighthearted commercial interruptions in a brilliant manner. Characters from the commercials suddenly find themselves in the film's world and vice versa. The result is both hilarious and displeasing (the latter from the filmmaker's perspective).
-------------------- "this lebowski he called himself 'the dude'. now, 'dude', that's a name no one would self-apply where i come from but there was a lot about the dude that didn't make sense to me...."--the Stranger
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: TheDude]
#5722566 - 06/07/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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sounds wonderful.
will they have it at normal rental places?
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: leery11]
#5722850 - 06/07/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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A place like Blockbuster? I would highly doubt it. Netflix doesn't even seem to carry it. A local video store with an eclectic collection is your best bet.
-------------------- "this lebowski he called himself 'the dude'. now, 'dude', that's a name no one would self-apply where i come from but there was a lot about the dude that didn't make sense to me...."--the Stranger
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: leery11]
#5722875 - 06/07/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone who thinks anything else besides corporate giants and governments are involved in media are under the same delusion as most other people. TV is not a projection of your fucking mind, this quote is a SICK misinterpretation to the reality of media. Hundreds of people are paid 6 figure salaries to sit and analyze how to make media have the highest impact on you. Example, advertising, individually you "ingore" the ad and "would never think" to purchase the product advertised. Well jokes on you, it impacts you on a level you cant understand anymore without a PhD in Sociology and Psychology, and corporate profits from advertising prove this. Not only that, but the government also understands this, and big buisness and big brother have been heavily manipulating the media for their best interests. To say God has anything to do with television, pfft.
I suggest for any of you to watch this video, in the middle of the film is a powerful message about media, and throughout the film it makes points about the media, take a look...
Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime (Google Video)
Fun Fact: You have more brain activity during sleep than whilst watching TV. Infact, you have more brain activity doing ANYTHING (literally besides being in a coma) than whilst watching TV.
Edited by OmEgAx1 (06/07/06 01:36 PM)
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: OmEgAx1]
#5723260 - 06/07/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mm i don't disagree with you that it is controlled by people that want to manipulate. but it is a reflection of you if you make it an interactive experience. you are also a reflection of it.
Was your post directed at me?
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: leery11]
#5723272 - 06/07/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whatever goes into the making of television programming, the ultimate control is still in your hands: the power to turn it on and off. (Even...gasp...the power to unplug it & donate it to the Salvation Army!!! )
It is all too easy to get into blaming Madison Avenue, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, WB for manipulating us with programming, and very challenging to take full responsibility for our choice to watch. But the latter is where the real magic begins.
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#5723286 - 06/07/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: soulcircus]
#5723302 - 06/07/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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it definitely does put you into a trance of sorts. i remember watching (on TV) a news special about a family that went without it for like a month or something, then as soon as they got it back they showed the kids watching it and they were drooled out heroin zombies just spacing completely out of their heads like junkies.....
the first time i watched it while stoned i could not focus my mind during commercials, they took me into an involuntarily sleep-like state where all the thoughts and ideas the commercials presented streamed through my mind without my conscious consent to turn it off..... then the show came back on and i was like "whoa..... what was that?"
i think everyone should watch tv stoned, but it seems like most people miss what they are supposed to be looking for and enjoy a good brain drain.
also Veritas our responsibility is to get others to turn it off, how can we have a free society until they do? Weed would be legalized by now I'm sure if they didn't keep attacking it constantly with the anti-drug commercials....... tv creates a consensus reality in your brain where boogey men are after you and marijuana is not ever acceptable to use.
so over simplified but i think we get it. in fact maybe THAT'S why the TV told me to never smoke weed again...... maybe it wasn't the LSA speaking to me.... maybe it was literally the TV? Hmmmmm.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: leery11]
#5723681 - 06/07/06 05:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think that is what it essentially does, as we go into a light hypnotic trance while watching it, then it programs us with so many negative emotions.
Too true
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Was your post directed at me?
I dont direct my posts to any individual, I post them so that they pertain to the current discussion, if my argument directly conflics with your own, dont take it personally.
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the first time i watched it while stoned i could not focus my mind during commercials, they took me into an involuntarily sleep-like state where all the thoughts and ideas the commercials presented streamed through my mind without my conscious consent to turn it off.
Realize it or not, this is exactly what is happening even when NOT stoned.
All TV really does, is regulate the freedom of thought of the populace. Since the launch of television, people would rather project themselves in the reality of television than the reality thats... well... real. Since then its been manipulated into a very powerful tool. The main problem with TV is the imposed "group think" (read some sociology books), basically they feed you opinions until just a few recognize the opinion and make it their own, these people then vocalize their opinions in certain situations, and other people recognize them, and eventually voice them. It then gets to the point that the majority of the population is programmed to think something, and "group think" supresses the views of the minority. TV is the only thing that feeds the exact same material at the exact same time to millions upon millions of people.
Personally, the last time I watched TV was as a kid, and I stopped watching when all the episodes on TLC, History, Discovery, and Animal Planet were re-runs.
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tv creates a consensus reality in your brain where boogey men are after you and marijuana is not ever acceptable to use.
Glad you see that
But it goes even further than that. Especially if you watch News on TV like many adults do, you encounter this brainwashing more than any other, and the DIRECT propaganda during the Iraq war has already been pointed out (read: Bush 'Planted Fake News Stories On American TV' http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article621189.ece Ofcourse you will NEVER see the above news item in media news.
Instead of real news, you get all the negative happenings of your community and the world shoved in your face, and then you're given the News item of the day concerning the current war. First Afghanistan, now Iraq, you're worried about the other issues so you either ignore the specifics behind those political wars and just accept it, or you take out your domestic issues against a reportedly "evil" group of people.
It's happening with Iran right now, alot of you probably already heard the propaganda surrounding this issue, but heres something you WONT see in the media, an interview with the Iranian president... Interview with Iran's President Ahmadinejad
Edited by OmEgAx1 (06/07/06 05:26 PM)
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Re: Media as black magick/brainwashing. [Re: OmEgAx1]
#5723952 - 06/07/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah it seems like the news headlines currently about Iran (and I've only seen 3-4 because I don't follow "news" much anymore) seem about the same as the ones leading up to the Iraq war.
those are good links and an interesting interview.
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
Edited by leery11 (06/07/06 07:13 PM)
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