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Past 5 Dried Grams
    #5712578 - 06/04/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Anyone know of a thread that deals with, essentially, trip reports for doses above 5 dried grams?

I'm wondering what 10g, 20g, 50g, etc. are like. And not real interested in doing it myself to find out. =P

splif

PS: I'd use the search function but I can't think of any search criteria that wouldn't yeild hundreds of unrelated pages.


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5712616 - 06/04/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have had one 10g+ trip to realize its not something I am ready for or willing to attempt again, at least for now. I wouldnt recommend such a foolish dose for anyone except the most experienced users or someone with a freakishly high tolerance.

I cant remember a whole lot of that trip other than being convinced that I had pushed the envelope too far and I was going to die. I could feel my heart pounding like it was going to come out of my chest and then suddenly I couldnt feel it anymore.

Surprisingly there wasn't as much visuals as you would expect on over 10g, it was mostly the same rhythmic breathing and motion that i have on lower dose trips except with a higher intensity and force.

The thing I remember most was when I closed my eyes I had the feeling of being sucked into a kind of vacuum or a black hole.

Hope that gives you some idea of what its like, for me it was a very frightening experience that taught me to respect the mushroom and not to be so careless with my doses.


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: phantomstranger]
    #5712749 - 06/04/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the input.

I'm wondering what truly massive (eg, 30-50g) would do. Anyone tried a dosage that insane?

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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5712765 - 06/04/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

A fried of mine went to amsterdam and ate 50 (what he thought was wet) dry grams.

He shit himself in the middle of amsterdam.
and lied on the ground shivering, threw up quite a bit too. was a proper state.

He wasn't in the best of moods for the next few weeks ;P


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: Cepheus]
    #5712792 - 06/04/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it's strange that something so safe as mushrooms can be so fucking crazy, too.


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5712795 - 06/04/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

aManEater, aside from the awkwardly-timed bowel movement, did you friend tell you anything about what was going through his head, what the experience was like, etc?

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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5712815 - 06/04/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Before I die I want to try a 50g trip :smile:


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: va_shroomer]
    #5712832 - 06/04/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

well he said he was literally in another universe, his mind had gone from his body. As if he had been sucked through a vortex or something.

I don't think his eyes were open long enough for the visuals, but I'd of hated to of been in his shoes. He didn't look like he was having fun


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: Cepheus]
    #5712868 - 06/04/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

a kid at my friends school took 17g dry, and felt so bad that he wanted to kill himelf. Ended up doing it too. :frown:


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: Isaracing]
    #5712889 - 06/04/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I ask this because the LD50, like my sig mentions, is 5.5 POUNDS of dried shrooms. That's about 2,500 grams.

So I just have to wonder how far people have gone in their experimentation. What's a 100g trip like? 200g? 500g, etc.

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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5713049 - 06/04/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I ate 10grams once and thought I was going to die. I couldnt breathe and thought my heart was going to stop so I speed walked around a counter for 2hrs to keep my heart going. Ill never do that again. I stick to 3gram doses and no more.


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5715681 - 06/05/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

First, I appreciate all the feedback.

But think of this more as a medical question. I'm not interested in actually doing it myself, I'm wondering if anyone knows of any trip reports online that deal with truly massive doses.

I think it'd be an interesting read. That's all. Clearly it's a really bad idea. =)

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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5717679 - 06/06/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The quality of experiences with 5+ grams can vary a lot due to the usual reasons. What is almost certain to occur, however, are pretty uncomfortable gastro-intestinal effects such as severe bloating, gas, and nausea. I've tried using Beano with Gas-x to try to reduce these effects with mixed results. Pot or Marinol (synthetic THC sold as a prescription drug) can reduce nausea. I've had more fun and insight on 3.5 grams than on 10, but it's impossible for me to determine what factors will produce a trip of any given quality. I find 5-5.5 grams about the limit before the physical discomfort overshadows the desired effects.


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: Silly_Cyben]
    #5720398 - 06/06/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

just because its 5gs, doesnt mean its going to be of a certain strength. ive eaten a 7 gram dose that was only roughly 1/2 the strength of one 4.8g dose that ive taken. i would gauge potency before dosing. (if you have already done that, ignore my post.)


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5720409 - 06/06/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

While growing methods will have some noticable differences, I think something that extreme would be more due to age of the mushrooms. Do you have any idea how old the two batches were?


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5720902 - 06/06/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

and how the mushrooms were dried greatly affects potency


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: splifner180]
    #5721270 - 06/06/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Came across this yesterday- 40g dried
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mus05.htm


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: LuckyWatcher]
    #5721490 - 06/07/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

A friend of mine took around 32 dry grams and said it was the worst experience of his life. He sorta went into a comatose state not too long into the trip.

We were outside when he started to lose control of his ability to move. Me and my friend carried him by the shoulders through the house to the couch.

He later described that he could look from side to side and see two angels carrying him through space towards a lit cloud. This sounded like it would be a welcomed experience but he said that it couldn't have been more terrible.

We threw him on a couch that his cat loved to sleep on. He described this situation as being burried in cat hair. Heeps and heeps of cat hair kept getting piled on top of him and it was constricting his breathing.

There wasn't much that we could do for him since he couldn't comunicate with us so after about half an hour we went and watched TV.

He told us that it was a terrifying experience, more visual than mental. I'm not exactly sure what he ate but they werent cubes. Some kind of shroom that grows in the pacific northwest that a friend helped us find.

He said that he wanted nothing more than to die. Just praying and wishing that he would die.


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: XbollweevilX]
    #5721632 - 06/07/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hah, figures, those would be psilocybe cyanescens (wavy cap mushroom) i assmue....The absolute most powerful and potent magic mushroom on earth. i ate a mere 2.5-3 grams of those and was conviced i was dieing and eventullay going to literaly die.....not a smart move by your friend


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Re: Past 5 Dried Grams [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #5721871 - 06/07/06 02:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

of course there are people that take strong trips. Say 10-15 grams. Pretty fuckin crazy but some people can take it.

But I think there is a point where taking any more is just stupid. People (should) have limits to the things they do, especially drugs.

Albeit it interesting, 50 dried grams should never be attempted, and i dont think ANYONE could EVER take it, save literally a handfull of people in the world.


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