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Went Hunting in East TN...
#5711934 - 06/04/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, today I went up into the woods, and into a cattle field, and saw numerous cow pies, and numerous areas of higher grass near the piles themselves, and did not find any mushroom, active or not. I looked around for like 15-20 minutes, in the moderatly sized field. On the walk back through the woods, I noticed one small mushroom growing on a piece of wood, that had broken off of a tree in the forest. I picked it off...and it looks like it might be active, and edible. It just rained. The forest, was damp, and everything was wet. I kind of have liek a sense that it might be active, but no idea what identity it is, or for sure if it's safe to eat.


(I did not squeeze the stem, to check for any spore print (blue))
Edited by Zimed (06/04/06 05:14 PM)
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5711956 - 06/04/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's probably a Pluteus.. one of the most common mushrooms found on stumps and wood.
Hard to see the gill attachment to be sure, but I see them so much that I'm used to them.
The gills should take on a pinkish/salmon colored hue as it ages.
Most Pluteus species are not active and not that great of an edible.
There are some rarely found species that will bruise bright blue on the stem, especially near the base. That would be the sign of an active one. Chances of finding those are slim to none, yet the inactive ones are ever so common.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: eris]
#5711988 - 06/04/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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What I do not understand is this. Why were there no mushrooms, NONE, not even plain old inactive mushrooms near the million piles of cow poop? And even in the small areas of tall ggrass next to some of the poop, there were no mushrooms there? I was told this is the right season, and right time, and it has been humid/raining the past couple of days...any ideas?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5712006 - 06/04/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could just be the conditions.
A lot of times in the summer, when it's really hot, in some areas an open cow pasture is an oven. It's always like that in my area during summer. It varies depending on your location, elevation, and other factors.
Even if I go to cow pastures this time of year after a heavy rain, I doubt I would find anything because it's been like 90+ degrees. I rarely ever do find stuff in cow fields in the summer.
Some places are different - they can hold moisture longer, or are shaded so mushrooms are able to grow there even in the heat of summer.
Spring and fall just seem to be better times to check that kind of habitat.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: eris]
#5712038 - 06/04/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, it is spring, right? So, when do you go hunting, and are succesful?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5712235 - 06/04/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its June, definitely summer....
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Jim]
#5712352 - 06/04/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Look at the cow pies in the shade and in the woods... Most cow pies out in the sun wont hold mushrooms its just too hot and most mushrooms don't like the direct sun
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: YESSUP]
#5715945 - 06/05/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, I just went looking around in my backyard, here in East TN, and I found a few of these...not sure what the heck they are...but I could use some advice. There were some baby ones, as well.


Can anyone help me learn if this type is active, and what I.D it is/ if it's edible.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5716462 - 06/05/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please, can not anyone here, help me identify them? I really need to know.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5716830 - 06/05/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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not active, most likely Panaeolina foenisecii
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Mead]
#5717279 - 06/05/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do a spore print, brown = foenisecii (inactive), black spore print = subbalteatus (mildly active).
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: CureCat]
#5719176 - 06/06/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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This site: http://www.uoguelph.ca/~gbarron/GILL%20FUNGI/DARK/panaeoli.htm
Says it's an active mushroom....what is tthe deal here...is that site wrong?
Also, how do you do a spore print?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5719258 - 06/06/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5719522 - 06/06/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zimed said: This site: http://www.uoguelph.ca/~gbarron/GILL%20FUNGI/DARK/panaeoli.htm
Says it's an active mushroom....what is tthe deal here...is that site wrong?
Also, how do you do a spore print?
Panaeolina foenisecii is not an active mushroom, despite what you read. To make a spore print, cut off the cap and put it on a white piece of paper gills down and put a cup over it...then wait 24 hours and take the cap off...I'm positive the shrooms you found are Panaeolina foenisecii, if you want to find Panaeolus subbalteatus, a moderately active mushroom that looks similar to Panaeolina foenisecii, look in horse manure mixed with stable shavings/hay...
Remember... Panaeolina foenisecii = Brown spores Panaeolus subbalteatus = Jet black spores
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: whiteknight]
#5722189 - 06/07/06 08:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here is the spore print to it....it's a little black...like areas of black, in the print...what do you think?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5722193 - 06/07/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks dark brown on my monitor.. that would suggest foenisecii.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5722195 - 06/07/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is definitely brown...
This is black:
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: whiteknight]
#5722756 - 06/07/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Find active mushrooms with patiance and knowledge, you will.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: doodoomaster]
#5723048 - 06/07/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, I went out again today in my yard...and found several pretty large mushrooms, and 2 of them had goldish/yellowish/light brownish caps...one is definatly a light yellow color. I will post pictures in a second...
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5723124 - 06/07/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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(the cap fell aprt, while I was handling it...it is distictly light yellow...but I do not know if it, from the sun or it's natural color.)





Any help, thanks.
(The colours may not be accurate, due to how old they are, and they look like they are...so will I.D ing be difficult?)
Edited by Zimed (06/07/06 03:05 PM)
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: CureCat]
#5723159 - 06/07/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Them look to be Coprinus... And a Lonely lil Sub of some sort...
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: YESSUP]
#5723271 - 06/07/06 03:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe coprinus... but coprinus mushrooms usually ink up and get gooey rahter than dry out like these caps. The exception I have found was Coprinus comatus, which was beefy enough to dry without inking. Also, that one mushroom all torn up... I think it is different from the others, but it is hard to tell because it IS all torn up. The gills appear lighter than the others. The little Pan is probably another foen.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: CureCat]
#5723320 - 06/07/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not all Coprinus will ink out and self destruct. In dryer conditions they will dry out and get brittle and fall apart. I can see the Dark,Black,Blue spoor in this pic.  It looks to me that they came out during a period of rainy wet weather and then it dried up and got hot and they dried up. My 2 cents
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: YESSUP]
#5723413 - 06/07/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, I just got back, from shrooming in some forest...and I think I found active SHROOMS! However, in the cowfield, I went into again, thinking there would be some shrooms there...none! I dunno why, but no shroomsin the cow field, near the terds nothing..>I found lots in the woods though. I found one solid white, one bright vibrant orange, a white a brown spot on the top and what I believe to be active shrooms.
So are any of those pics I just posted active/edible?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5723523 - 06/07/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay, here are my latest shrooms from the forest/woods, give me your input guys.
 (Group Shot)
 (Vibrant Orange Mushie)
 (Connected)
 (White Shroom)
 (Dunno)
 (Caps to the previous pic shrooms)
 (Hmm...)
 (White shroom, brown tip)
 (Gills to the dunno shrooms)
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5723552 - 06/07/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You need to spoor print the Dark ones... Trash all the others.. Only keep and print the dark ones.. Get back with better close up pics NOT BLURRY! Then post a pic of the spoor print!
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: YESSUP]
#5723588 - 06/07/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, none of the ones I postted earlier today, or just now are active/edible? Or do I need to do the spore print first. Why do you say throw the others away? Are the dark ones mystifying you, or do they look suspicious, for activity?
Should I throw the ones out I found in my lawn earlier today away?
What is that orange one...so exotic looking, and what are the others, I got in the woods...any thing to worry about? Just concentrate on the dark brown ones. I can just spore print ONE dark brown one right, I don't have to test then all.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5723753 - 06/07/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yessup?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5723793 - 06/07/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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......They do not look active. And yes, unless they are growing from the same mycellium roots- they are connecting- you need to spore print all of them. Many types of mushrooms can look very similar. I see no blue tinge to anything there, nice finds though!! But don't go expecting to find actives or you will be disappointed, you get what nature gives you. I found hundreds of inedible species before any actives. I throw the ones i don't want back outside to spread spores.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: CureCat]
#5723865 - 06/07/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why did he say to keep the dark ones, then?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: CureCat]
#5723882 - 06/07/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well dont eat anything cause many dangerous lookalikes but you seem to have found one from all three common genera of the Majic shroom family Coprinaceae......Panaeolus (Panaeolina} foenisecii.......Psathyrella velutina (large brown ones ).........and a definate Coprinus (Inky Cap )........non are active there and there are dangerous shrooms in all these Genera besides Panaeolina......
and cant see enough of the others for to be sure....could be deadly! should make thumbnails next time kinda a nightmare to navigate but cool pics tho....
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: shroominDole]
#5724022 - 06/07/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I really, am noot having luck...look at all these finds, and none active...I walked like 4 miles today to get these in the woods, and none active...I am doing a spore pritn right now on the big dark brown ones.....so, I will post the result when it is ready.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5724158 - 06/07/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, here is the spore print, for the big darkish, brown ones from the woods/forest....it's black.

(I posted it big, so you can see detail.)
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Re: Went Hunting in East TN... [Re: Zimed]
#5724258 - 06/07/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please, I need a reply. I don't seem to be annoying, or obnoxious, that is not in my nature, but I really would like to know as soon as possible.
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Re: Went Hunting in East TN... [Re: Zimed]
#5724491 - 06/07/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is anyone going to help me or not?
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Re: Went Hunting in East TN... [Re: Zimed]
#5724569 - 06/07/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you are being somewhat of both. You must be patient and no one will reply if you make post like this. Mushroom hunting for many people in this forum is not just about finding some SHROOMS SO I CAN GET FUCKED UP AND TRIP OUT. This is somewhat annoying to me and perhaps others but I will not speak for them. By all means I am not flaming you or anything but rather trying to help you.
So be patient and do some research. there are plenty of things to research on this website as well as other websites that are informative. Anything you read here will be correct unless noted otherwise and probably has been deleted.
Mushroom Johns website will be helpful for you if you are trying to find information about wild actives. If you have no luck finding actives in your area you could take a crack at cult. (if legal in your area, I am not advocating that you do anything illegal) But that takes practice, Patience and knowledge.
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Re: Went Hunting in East TN... [Re: doodoomaster]
#5724597 - 06/07/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wait, no. I'm not being persistant just to find out, and get fucked up. I suffer from severe OCD, which makes me constantly think about something, and my mind will not be put to rest/ease, until my mind figures out, whatever answer the O.C.D is hung up on. (O.C.D = Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). Sorry, however. I am not trying to do all this, to get fucked up, I have been interested in fungi, and mushrooms, for 1 1/2 years now, ever since I learnt about a poisnous form of mycelium.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5725475 - 06/08/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well if you're looking for actives, the dark ones are the only ones that come close to resembling anything active.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: CureCat]
#5725483 - 06/08/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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.....okay, sorry that was a bit random, i meant to post in responce to the last post on the first page.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: CureCat]
#5726148 - 06/08/06 09:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, are they active? What species/ I.D are they, please?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5726635 - 06/08/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You need to look into what you have and stop depending on the folks here for a POSITIVE ID!
If you are to survive in this hobby you MUST learn how to identify the mushrooms you plan on consuming on by yourself! No one wants to be THAT person who gives a positive ID over the Internet only to find out that something happened! "YA DIG?"
All I can say is that you need to educate yourself and don't expect the members here to give you the ..
you live in TN. You have about 4 strains of Mushroom that are active. They are all clearly posted on this sight. Its only 4 mushrooms and none of them look the same.
So lets say you find the names of the mushrooms and you do an internet search with photos and you start to figure out what you have found vs what you need to find.
Stop picking every mushroom you see and start looking for the 4 mushrooms that actually matter.. You see them .. You see the photo off the internet... You feel you have something ... You post it here with good photos and a good basic ID.. YOU state what you think you have found and then ask for help with your ID! Get IT?
Cool! Now start looking at what mushrooms grow in your state..
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: YESSUP]
#5726667 - 06/08/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think maybe you should read he faqs in the mushroom hunting section?
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: YESSUP]
#5726674 - 06/08/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hahaha, now now, simmer down Yessup!! Ehehehe 
He's right though, we can only help, we can't make the positive ID for you! You have the mushrooms in your hands, you have the best point from which to judge visually, now educate yourself so that you can judge knowledgeably.
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Re: Shroom Hunting in East TN [Re: Zimed]
#5726953 - 06/08/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zimed, I understand your obsession with mushrooms. I am the same way.
In the future please Label and photograph your finds individually. Group them by species so you can get a quick response.
While I recognize just about all of your finds, I honestly don't feel like trying to point them all out, since you have a bunch of jumbled up pictures. If you present them in some kind of order it will make it easy for us to help.
I'm working on an ID sample request sticky now because this is becoming a problem.
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