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What could this be?
    #5708864 - 06/03/06 08:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

In an earlier post, I took 2 hits of some acid I bought, felt kinda sick, very slight visuals, eventually we decided I got ripped off and it wasn't really acid. Well today I had nothing to do so I took 6 hits of the stuff, I got some slight stomach discomfort, nothing too bad, but then at the 2 hour mark I felt like I had to puke and I had a pounding headache, my muscles got all tense and I had to lie down, but now all of a sudden patterns on the ceiling were forming and moving around just like they had when I did some shrooms a week ago.

So basically, my question is, is there some kind of RC that takes 2 hours to come up, has a terrible bodyload and produces visuals but no shifts in thinking or consciousness? What kind of drug is on my blotter?


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Re: What could this be? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5708892 - 06/03/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

2c-i has a heavy body load, produces massive amounts of visuals, and takes about a minimum of 2 hours to come up as long as you haven't been drinking. I never had the urge to actually vomit though.

2c-i is a white blocky powder (almost looks like cotton) and you only need a very small dose to get off (15-20mg).

What form did this come in? Blotter, powder, liquid, etc...?


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Re: What could this be? [Re: drSE]
    #5708914 - 06/03/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Blotter


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Re: What could this be? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5709296 - 06/03/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

While I'm not sure I have enough experience to give you a solid answer, I think it would make it easier on us if you mentioned how long it took to come up, if it had taste, and how long it lasted before you could fall asleep.


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Re: What could this be? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5710337 - 06/04/06 06:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I just wrote a post about this very thing, I hope it helps answer your questions:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5709814/an/0/page/0


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Re: What could this be? [Re: thehandtruck]
    #5711625 - 06/04/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wrote in my post that all the effects kicked in at the 2-hour mark, it had a taste that I really can't describe at all, I've never tasted anything like it, but I've never tasted real LSD which I also hear has a unique taste.. I took the hits around noon so falling asleep wasn't a problem, but when I actually went to bed it was around 3 and I had no trouble. Another thing to mention, is that after all the effects had gone away, I smoked some pot later in the night and the visuals came back almost as strong!


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Re: What could this be? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5711715 - 06/04/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It sounds exactly like my experience on LSA man. Was the blotter really thick or in extra large squares (like quarter inch?)


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Re: What could this be? [Re: no_satori]
    #5712185 - 06/04/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like LSA from what I know of LSA

"but I've never tasted real LSD which I also hear has a unique taste.."
if by unique taste you mean no taste, then yeah it does have a unique taste... :smile:


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Re: What could this be? [Re: tocuhe]
    #5712223 - 06/04/06 06:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

this is ABSOLUTELY NOT LSA.

It is true that LSA has a strong body load, and come up times for me have ranged from 45 minutes to a little over 2 hours...

However, if you ever have a strong enough dosage of LSA to experience visuals, you will have already noticed HUGE cognitive shifts... if anything the cognitive shift will be different than you had expected and irritating, but it will not be too subtle to notice.

In my experience nausea from LSA has always been experienced much earlier than the psychedelic come-up, and has often already diminished by the 2 hours mark. (often but not always)




It sounds to me like a research chemical... admittedly I have basically no experience with these... did it taste 'metallic'? :wink:


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Re: What could this be? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5712467 - 06/04/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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this is ABSOLUTELY NOT LSA.




Absolutely is too strong a word. It very well could be according to the information he provided.

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However, if you ever have a strong enough dosage of LSA to experience visuals, you will have already noticed HUGE cognitive shifts...




Not true. Many folks simply can't trip on LSA at all. Everyone's body chemistry is different. LSA is the only other thing with effects like these that can come in blotter form (although unusual).

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In my experience nausea from LSA has always been experienced much earlier than the psychedelic come-up, and has often already diminished by the 2 hours mark.




IME I have been nauseus anywhere from 30 minutes after dosing to the next day. Depends on many factors.

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It sounds to me like a research chemical...




Urban legend. The stories of unkown research chemicals passed off as LSD died off like 10 years ago. It's so rare that it's it's virtually non existant. LSA/2cb/MDMA/Zanax (i.e. the knowns) are commonly produced and sold as LSD in various forms. Plenty of articles about this stuff, check erowid and lycaeum.


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Re: What could this be? [Re: no_satori]
    #5712948 - 06/04/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I know that DOC and DOI can take about 2 hours to kick in, it can make you throw up, it gives you visuals, and the dose is small enough that it can be laid to blotter paper.

It is also possible that it was 5-meo-amt because it can be laid on blotter, when I took that it took like 2 1/2 hours to kick in and I had a killer headache at the end


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Re: What could this be? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5714287 - 06/05/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Actually the blotter was in really small squares, and not particularly thick.


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Re: What could this be? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5714293 - 06/05/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I guess I should add that I've tripped on morning glory seeds before and this didn't really feel like that experience.


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Re: What could this be? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5714301 - 06/05/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't recall the taste being very metallic, I couldn't really tell you what it tasted like.


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Re: What could this be? [Re: DrGeek]
    #5714684 - 06/05/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i am almost positive that what you ate was 5 meo amt. about 2 years ago a bunch of fucking ass hole released this stuff as LSD. i was sold a bottle of it.(it was also on blotter) as soon as it was kicking in i knew it was not LSD. my friends who ate it were throwing up, i did not but felt like i was going to. mussels felt like they were cramping up, head ache, very confusing thought patterns and visuals very disconnected and confusing. they were on dancing condom paper Max head room blotter and bottles and I'm sure allot more. this stuff can be made very easily for about 30 bucks a bottle so you can see why these sick fucks did this. if i were you i would just throw it away because it is in know way a representation of the sacred experience that has changed so many of our lives. sorry just thinking about it gets me upset i cant believe some one would do that


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Re: What could this be? [Re: lsd25icu812]
    #5714747 - 06/05/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think, too, that this was 5-meo-amt especially the headaches and the stomach discomfort seems typical.
Did you have any diharroea during the trip or afterwards?


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Re: What could this be? [Re: no_satori]
    #5715601 - 06/05/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It sounds to me like a research chemical...




Urban legend. The stories of unkown research chemicals passed off as LSD died off like 10 years ago. It's so rare that it's it's virtually non existant. LSA/2cb/MDMA/Zanax (i.e. the knowns) are commonly produced and sold as LSD in various forms. Plenty of articles about this stuff, check erowid and lycaeum.




Hey man, sorry, but your info is OLD and outdated.

5-meo-AMT was put on quite a large # of blotters between, ohh, say, 2001 and 2005.

Some time around 2004 DOB and DOI started showing up on blotters in fairly large scale.

Then in 2005 DOC became available, and since it is the most well-tolerated and best trip out of all these chems for most people it took the lead in terms of what's being used on fake-LSD blotters these days. Much DOC in Florida, NY, Cali ... much of it on white-on-white too. Confirmed.

From what this sounds like, I'd guess it was DOI. Just a guess though.

And it's definitely not LSA... that stuff doesn't fit on a blotter unless it's a massive blotter and besides that, nobody does it. *That*, my friend, is the urban legend. What people on tour call "LSA" is actually probably DOx or 5-meo-AMT or something else new these days.


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