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PhanTomCat
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In the nature as we know it, MOST life does feed off of life/death.... I am just bringing up the point that if life ONLY lived off of life/death, there never would have been life at all - from an evolutionary POV....
""My point is to ask if life is a unified force moving through various forms...if we are all one.""
I would say, there are different forms of life living on different life force frequencies, all within one united song.... Different chordal notes harmonizing together in an effortless epic chorus.... It just keeps building and building in a dynamic complexity of arrangement and shades of e-Motion.... It all makes one song, but there are many unique instrumental voices making the full collaborative driving force/spirit to that song....
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The_Hobbit
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We are all a part of the bigger system. However, we are still individuals.
You can consider yourself as many different things. Reality is what you make it. =)
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redgreenvines
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i want to be cured then smoked
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BlueCoyote
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as demius said, we all principally are fed by the sun, as even the molecular structures mostly are stored sun-energy in the one or other form. Perhaps, one day, we were able to feed us directly by energy-waves (again). Even if we consider eating fruits, it is no life yet, same as eggs. Milk is not alive either. These three mainly are concentrated nutrients for 'coming life'.
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fireworks_god
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Huehuecoyotl said: Science confirms that space is curved and therefore finite. Now there could well be other universes, but since it cannot be measured it is pointless to consider this.
Then it is, in effect, entirely pointless and without purpose to consider the possibillity of their being boundaries that seperate "this" universe from whatever else. My entire point is that, if such a boundary is drawn, then there is something on each side of the boundary that is being used to seperate. My point is that, if such is so, then, from a higher perspective that encompasses both sides of the boundary, it isn't a real boundary at all.
My point makes sense and will apply in theory, whereas your point that the universe is finite and that implies a boundary simply cannot be evidenced. Now that such has been clarified, your assertion that it is pointless to "argue" with me isn't entirely valid. My point can be demonstrated whereas yours cannot. 
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dblaney
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My point is to ask if life is a unified force moving through various forms...if we are all one.
Yes, reality is nondual. We are all one, on every level, not just when examining the life force/prana/qi/whatever name you would like to give this phenomenon.
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Veritas

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Perhaps it would be clearer to say that construction requires destruction, than to say that life requires death.
Even autotrophs rely on the radiation created by the gradual destruction of the sun and the mineral deposits left on our planet by the destruction of meteors and other space debris. Destruction releases energy, construction claims it and uses it to maintain a form.
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Autotrophs are a vital part of the food chains of all ecosystems. They take energy from the sun (or from inorganic sources) and convert it into a form (carbon-based or organic molecules) that is used to carry out various biological functions such as cell growth.
Whether we claim energy through the internal destruction of other forms (also known as digestion ), or benefit from previous destruction, the basic principle still applies.
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redgreenvines
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Re: One River [Re: Veritas]
#5710718 - 06/04/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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my contribution here is that smoking is the river too
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Veritas

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Yes, your morning destruction ritual allows for elaborate constructions. 
Edited by Veritas (06/04/06 11:23 AM)
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Huehuecoyotl
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What you say may be true, BUT our particular fishbowl does have walls...there might be other fishbowls (universes) out there of course. Now we could disuss other dimensions which could make our universe infinite...but I aint going there right now because it is irrelevant to the idea I was presenting.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: One River [Re: Veritas]
#5711061 - 06/04/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Perhaps it would be clearer to say that construction requires destruction, than to say that life requires death."
Well from a physical sciences standpoint that is true. The destruction will eventually overwhelm the construction, however...entropy. I should state that I was actually making a semi poetic metaphor about the interconnectedness of all life. I wasn't going for a scientific statement....all of you guys think way too much
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Veritas

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all of you guys think way too much
Define "too much."
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Huehuecoyotl
Fading Slowly


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Re: One River [Re: Veritas]
#5711077 - 06/04/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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More than enough?
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Veritas

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Isn't "enough" subjective? Your version of enough might not be sufficient for me. I prefer to take on ideas the way I would work a Rubik's Cube: twist, turn, rearrange, sort, re-sort, arrive at a solution, then dissolve the solution with a few quick twists.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: One River [Re: Veritas]
#5711140 - 06/04/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Normally I think too much also....but I been trying to cut back. I am already a serious nerd....
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Veritas

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Nerd: an unstylish, unattractive, or socially inept person; especially one slavishly devoted to intellectual or academic pursuits.
Geek: a person often of an intellectual bent who is disapproved of.
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Geek has always had negative connotations within society at large, where being described as a geek tends to be an insult. The term has recently become less condescending, or even a badge of honor, within particular fields and subcultures; this is particularly evident in the technical disciplines, where the term is now more of a compliment denoting extraordinary skill.
I think you're more of a geek than a nerd.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: One River [Re: Veritas]
#5711201 - 06/04/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am both. I am unstylish because I don't care about style, I am socially inept...totally (but this is improving...stalking practice), I am slavishly devoted to intellectual pursuits. I am also of an intellectual bent and often disaproved of but I have been stalking this also. So I guess I am both. These definitions are badges of honor in my view. I think that the original meaning of geek was someone who ate live animals....I have not gone there yet.
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Huehuecoyotl
Fading Slowly


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However....I should not be defining myself thus.....as I really defy explanation...
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Silversoul
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If M-Theory is correct, then the universe is not a closed system, as gravity regularly escapes its bounds.
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fireworks_god
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Exactly, a geek show, biting off the heads of chickens. 
I think that would be interesting enertainment, with strobe lights, lasers, and to the theme of Bach's Little Fugue. 
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