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How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad?
    #5707631 - 06/03/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

First off, I don't smoke vaporized weed, and I know that smoking vaporized weed doesn't get you very stoned (when I got my vaporizer, I wanted to find out what the effects of the high b.p. cannabinoids that get left behind are... turns out to be the groggy and headachy ones)  That's not the point of my question.

What I want to know about is that awful foul taste.  If you've never experienced it, all I can describe it as is inky oily pure evil that coats the inside of your mouth.  I just don't understand it;  vaping weed gets rid of most of the good tasting chemicals, but that can't be the answer, because smoking buds tastes delicious, and no amount of THC could really mask that awful flavor.  Ive thoght about moisture, but that can't explain it, because weed that's dry as dust still tastes fine.  For every mildly reasonable explanation I can come up with, I can come up with a much more reasonable rebuttal.

So any thoughts or explanations, anyone?  How can smoking vaporized weed taste worse than sucking through that last bit of ass from a bowl of normal weed?  :confused: :confused: :confused: (in case it's a regional term, "ass" refers to that stage in smoking a bowl when most smokers will pass it up, because there's no THC left, and it tates like, well, ass)


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5707656 - 06/03/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

smoking vaporized weed gets you jsut as high jsut without all the carbon shit in the smoke, it will emute a blue smoke, it heats up the glands and turns it to smoke without burning it, same jsut safer


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: C-Dizzle]
    #5707679 - 06/03/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No, I'm not talking about vaporizing weed. That's great. As soon as I pick up a bag, I'm gonna be having a fat vapo-bonghit session (hooking the vaporizer up to a biz-zong).

My question is about smoking the remaining sickass weed after you've vaped it.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5707790 - 06/03/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Why would you want to smoke the left overs after using a vapo, after you've already got the good stuff out of the plant.......your just going to be consuming all of the carcinogins that the vapo left.

No point in using a vapo if you smoke whats left after you smoke it out of a vapo......what a dicotamy. Dosent sound too smart though, if you think about how things actually work.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: demon2091tb]
    #5707888 - 06/03/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Its like eating you own shit.
What do you expect it to taste like? Candy?


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Pithlit]
    #5707899 - 06/03/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

LOL, good analogy


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Gratos]
    #5707928 - 06/03/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Or eating the leftovers from mushroom tea. No offense intended, I just don't see a reason why you would.

As for a reason why it tastes so bad, maybe the excessive heat saps everything tasty. All that's left would be chlorophil and carbon, I believe.

There are a lot of people on this forum who could give a better explanation, but the point is, smoking 'vaped weed is pretty useless in all respects apart from damaging your lungs.

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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
    #5708137 - 06/03/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty much all thats leftover is carcinogens and co-carcinogens, and some plant material.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5710362 - 06/04/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Jesus Christ, did not a single person who responded actually read my post? I DO NOT SMOKE THE SHIT (I just smoked it once after getting my vaporizer, in the name of science). A buddy took a hit of it while drunk the other night, and then cried out in drunken confusion, "How the FUCK can it taste that much worse than an ass hit?" That's what inspired this thread.

I don't expect it to taste good, but I'm unable to find any reasonable explanation for why it tastes as bad as it does. It's just completely and utterly beyond comprehension. I was just curious if anyone had an explanation. If you don't think this is a legitmate question, you probably don't understand just how bad it tastes compared to cannabis.

I don't expect it to taste like candy. I don't expect it to taste like THC. I don't expect it to taste good at all. But I DO expect it's flavor to resemble burnt plant matter, which it does not. It tastes like pure undiluted evil.

Y'all don't need to waste time telling me not to smoke it; I thought I made clear that I don't. I'm vaporizing good herb as I write this, and it tastes great.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5710545 - 06/04/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you have a vaporizer. Save the left over buds and sell them! It's a good way to make you're money. I once got a baggy of vaporized shit myself. Would'nt have happend if I had'nt done the trade in public without being able to look at the shit...at least I got my revenge on thAT mofo.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5710575 - 06/04/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There aren't buds left over when you vaporize. You grind it up, and what your left with after you vape looks like light bone-dry pipe tobacco. It's not even remotely smokeable. Note the above quote, "How can it taste THAT MUCH worse than an ass hit?!"

Incidentally, does anyone happen to know if you can vape opium in an herb vaporizer? I figure it ought to work if I stick it in the middle of some ground up chronic.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5710738 - 06/04/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Actually I once smoked a volcano and the buds looked the same as befor.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5710751 - 06/04/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

whenever I've vapourized bud (admitedly with my homemade lightbulb vape) its always gone a dry brown colour =/

And I've notice vapourisers always seem to taste like brocolli


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Cepheus]
    #5710758 - 06/04/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Homemade light bulb vap? How did you make that? Plz tell us man I've been wanting to make one for a while now. Explain to me how to make one..plz


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5710995 - 06/04/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Actually I once smoked a volcano and the buds looked the same as befor.




Then your friend wasn't loading the volcano properly. Putting in whole buds doesn't give very good surface area, you get a lot more THC out if you grind it up first.

Wish I had money for my own volcano, but Vapor Bros. is not bad.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #5796942 - 06/27/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i have used the same weed three times, and got high each time..

what i mean is...i first vaporized about half way (in a lightbulb of course), then on another night, i forced more vapor out of it, this is when it was tasting pretty bad, at first, vapour should taste like how your weed smells, but near the end, it starts tasting like burnt cookies (escpecially if you get greedy and start burning it). then on another night, i loaded it all into a pipe, and took some of the harshest hits i've ever taken, sooo horrible. although, it worked. Smoking vaporized weed tends to produce a dirtier high, thats very dissorienting. If your trying to make your weed go further, this is how.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #6698296 - 03/22/07 04:54 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure why it tastes like shit, but it sure as hell does. Does anyone else get really, really harsh hits out of their vape, like it's burning your lungs? I didn't before but the last time I used my vape (last night) the smoke fucking hurt when I inhaled it into my lungs, and it hurt for about 3 minutes afterwards. It's not like it was just hot, it hurt for some other reason. I have a carb and everything. Am I smoking it wrong?


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Mysteryman23145]
    #6698312 - 03/22/07 05:21 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

pot gets its taste and smell from terpenes, and in the process of vaping the terpenes go as well...so vaped weed tastes like crud, since these terpenes (and every other desirable cannabinoid) are all gone...


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: fungusfun1]
    #6698351 - 03/22/07 05:59 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I own a Volcano... :tongue:

We grind up about .5g of good bud, fill the chamber, set it on 6.5 and get 3 or 4 tasty bags of THC vapor. They all taste great, and it's rarely harsh... The harshness comes from the element being too hot, and the vapor gets too thick and may include some smoke. If the first bag is harsh, we just turn it down to 5 or 6.

Once no more vapor comes out (the 4th bag is usually kinda light), we dump the remains into a container we have... It should be brown at this point. That stuff can be "re-vaped" in the future, in case of THC emergency, but it's not very good.

We've never smoked the remaining stuff, just put it through the Volcano again.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6698417 - 03/22/07 06:52 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

dude the topic is about how the vapo poop tastes when u smoke it...so u need to smoke some of the vaped stuff and let us know what u think, lol...


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: fungusfun1]
    #6698548 - 03/22/07 08:33 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

u need to smoke some of the vaped stuff and let us know what u think




I spent $500 on a Volcano so I don't have to smoke anything... I'll just take your word for it. :smile:

I was just making a point that you can re-vape the leftovers if needed. We had a friend come over who was totally dry... He went through our container of totally spent brown bud, and got pretty fucked up... He also said it tasted fine.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6699021 - 03/22/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Come on guys!

Simple ass reason.

Flavors and oils are released at a lower temp than the goodies. When you vape you capture all of the flavanoids/oils, leaving the remaining cellulose carcass.

IT ALSO EXPLAINS WHY THE LAST BAG (Volcano) TASTES WORST THAN THE FIRST 2.

THATS WHY THERE IS NO FUCKING TASTE! NOT MAGIC!


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: MycoCakeEater]
    #6699072 - 03/22/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

We normally make brownies out of our spent vaped weed and get as floored as we would making brownies with regular weed. So yes there is plenty of good stuff left after vaping!


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: mrco0o]
    #6699102 - 03/22/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

No there's not. Having never tried it, I feel I can totally overrule your experience.


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: mrco0o]
    #6699120 - 03/22/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

There is always "something" left, just not enough to notice. If you are getting "floored" from the brownies, then you simply aren't vaping it long enough... I was doing the same basic thing when I first started using the Volcano. We would send it through twice, then dump it... Now we go at least 4 times, maybe 5.

And I bet someone could still catch a buzz vaping it again, but it would take much more.


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    #6699203 - 03/22/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

LOL


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #6699370 - 03/22/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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First off, I don't smoke vaporized weed, and I know that smoking vaporized weed doesn't get you very stoned


are you kidding!!! you must have a SHITTY vaporizer, get a volcano, it taste like putting pure dank in your mouth and you get stoned as FUCK... you must have a really shit vape dude


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #6735029 - 04/01/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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There is always "something" left, just not enough to notice. If you are getting "floored" from the brownies, then you simply aren't vaping it long enough... I was doing the same basic thing when I first started using the Volcano. We would send it through twice, then dump it... Now we go at least 4 times, maybe 5.

And I bet someone could still catch a buzz vaping it again, but it would take much more.




i would agree with this, i would also say that the volcano is an overpriced rip-off...$500 for what is essentially a heat gun with a manual temp dial, some snap hose fittings and a reynold's oven bag??? give me a break...heat gun will cost you $80 max and the rest of the stuff can be had for less that $30...oh yeah u have to buy some screens to hold the bud in place too, that's about $3...when i'm done my bud looks like slightly well done toast and is not good for anything except getting pitched in the can...i have tried smoking vaped bud in the past and it sucks, its like all of the bad shit without any of the good stuff...


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: fungusfun1]
    #6735317 - 04/01/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I cant complaint about the volcano, I am one happy costumer. I love my cano. It was expensive but who cares, how it works, how you load, it is so easy, it is worth every cent. If mine would break and it didnt have a warranty i would just probably buy it again and spend the same amount of money. That is how great it is.


Yeah, revaping weed is the way when you dont have greens around. You can also  wash the vape in iso and let it evaporate and will leave you this goo that is yuckie to smoke, but it is ok to cook with. Of course you have to save a lot of vapeweed but that it is not hard at all. Dont expect a big batch just enough for  1 - 2 treats.

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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: Mysteryman23145]
    #6735807 - 04/01/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not sure why it tastes like shit, but it sure as hell does. Does anyone else get really, really harsh hits out of their vape, like it's burning your lungs? I didn't before but the last time I used my vape (last night) the smoke fucking hurt when I inhaled it into my lungs, and it hurt for about 3 minutes afterwards. It's not like it was just hot, it hurt for some other reason. I have a carb and everything. Am I smoking it wrong?


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Re: How can smoking vaporized weed taste so bad? [Re: unseenat17]
    #6735840 - 04/01/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I smoke my vaped buds afterwards (I usually leave a little THC to smoke; I don't completely vape the buds). The vaped buds are great for rolling, or packing on top of bowls and stuff. I haven't found it to tasty nasty. But then again, the only time I use my vaporizor is when I've got the tasty kush (so basically whenever I want :drooling:)


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