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The America Haters
    #5707625 - 06/03/06 02:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This is a post largely without any purpose except for allowing me a chance to tell all you America haters to fuck off.

Constantly bitching about the current state of affairs. Bashing our Political system, railing against our foreign policy, oblivious to the Domestic policies, or even the interconnectedness of the two. People just looking to bitch about things, The Ne'er Do Wells. Please read a book. You can start with Thomas Paine and his classic pamphlet on the nature of Government. Then once you have mastered its simple and obvious language you can move on towards T.H Whites, The Once and Future King. A pleasant discourse on the nature of Right Vs. Might. Perhaps now you may be ready for A Wealth Of Nations, a better understanding of the mechanics of economy both local and global.

Then I pray you find some spare time where you can sit and ponder seriously the nature of the human spirit and how policy and spirit must walk hand in hand.

How even here on the home front we allow good people to wallow in their dark, we allow a good people the disgrace of providing them with the essentials of life so they never strive or move towards the light. How we bitch and complain about the poor and never even apply simple rules of ecology to the circumstance.

We fail to recognize and apply logic to society.
We scream in abject ire at the ignorance of the man next to us and then we walk away without effort at correction. I don't mean we lecture, we live our lives, we manifest fun and hope and personality. We teach people through the way we manifest our beliefs.

Quit hating this country and start hating yourselves you Haters of America. You simple minded people who see only the pixel and not the picture.

The forest is invisible for the tree. You who would chop down the tree to better see the forest, till all the trees are gone and the forest is no more.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5707662 - 06/03/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Are you on drugs?

Anywayz,

I think I may know what you mean, even though you may have been hell bent on a rant.

Its like people don't understand, they fail to realize that there are people in the world that want only to maim and kill, be it mental or physically. They want to to sew seeds of uniformity and thought oppression. They want to tell us of their God's and quell any originality. They seek dominion over men, the very thing their Gods lay claim to.

Then when a power in position to help deicdes to intervene cries of outrage and indignation are lifted with great volume. Yet these same people would maintain that it is perfectly accpetable to prevent a man from beaten an invalid or child or woman. These smae people would step in and spend someone else's money on the destitute.

These people would criticize and hate our ways, hatin the president without ever really understanding the balance of powers. They would blame the officials, never thinking that they themselves are in repsonsible for the powers that be. Most of them live right here in America. Go to the fucking polls and vote.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5707742 - 06/03/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, goddamn those people. Hiding behind their 1st amendment. We should make a holiday called America day where we hold a inquisition to destroy all those pesky america haters.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5707773 - 06/03/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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mack_tasticlies said:
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah




who here hates america? if i dislike politicians, or aspects of government, i dont throw the baby out with the bathwater.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5707818 - 06/03/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Constantly bitching about the current state of affairs. Bashing our Political system, railing against our foreign policy, oblivious to the Domestic policies, or even the interconnectedness of the two. People just looking to bitch about things, The Ne'er Do Wells. Please read a book. You can start with Thomas Paine and his classic pamphlet on the nature of Government. Then once you have mastered its simple and obvious language you can move on towards T.H Whites, The Once and Future King. A pleasant discourse on the nature of Right Vs. Might. Perhaps now you may be ready for A Wealth Of Nations, a better understanding of the mechanics of economy both local and global.




anyone that has read thos paine..or even adam smith..would necessarily hate bush&co...they become america-haters..and rightfully so..when the american voters embrace the neocon radicals...you might also want to check out george lakoffs' synopsis of strict-father morality.. it is dificult to imagine how anyone could read this and not be repulsed...again..because the american voters have embraced this ideology..anyone that is repulsed as such also becomes an "america-hater"...one could even argue that we sent 2 million of our own ppl to their deaths in WWII to fight against the very thing that we have chosen..by dint of electoral majority..to become...and IMNSHO..such a society more than deserves a measure of resementment...


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Re: The America Haters [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5707914 - 06/03/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't hate America, I hate the system that runs America at the current moment. Aka. The views the dominate congress

What happened to the system of checks and balances? just tossed out the window :mad2:


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5707944 - 06/03/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't hate "America"....I just don't like your government or how it operates :wink:

There's a bit of a difference there.

On the other hand, "America hater" is a phrase I often see tossed around by those blindly patriotic persons...


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Re: The America Haters [Re: trendal]
    #5708214 - 06/03/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The "America Hater" label gets applied to those who never have anything good to say about America and seem to revel in whatever failure or misdeeds an American may commit. "Nyah nyah nyahnyah nyah, I saw your underpants". Assuming the worst is also a characteristic of the knee jerk (or even the reflective) "America Hater." I try to avoid the label, myself, because I think it is weak but they are certainly out there. This does not include the obvious population of America Haters from say the land of Islamic whackjobs, wherever they may be. I'm not the least bit interested in any of their complaints. They should be on Selusa Secundis forever. Or until they die. Whichever takes longer.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5708321 - 06/03/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You could also deal with reading "Utopia" as well as "Mein Kampf", and throw in a shitload of Marx in there.....

All political "novels" are pure idealism.

If you were to actually read Mein Kampf, without any idea that the holocaust happened, you would probably agree with everything the book had to say, and would also see that Hitler was an amazing politician.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5708658 - 06/03/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There is a big element of "America Haters" both inside and outside the USA. In my opinion, about 90 percent of this group is composed of people who just randomly jump on this bandwagon of thought without really thinking about it for themselves.

Are there things wrong with America? Your damn right there are!!!
Does this mean the entire institution is evil, of course not!!!!
There are several governments both past and present that should be hated to a stronger degree then the USA.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5708690 - 06/03/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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There are several governments both past and present that should be hated to a stronger degree then the USA.




too bad a critique of those past governments are not as relevent as a critique of the US government.

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In my opinion, about 90 percent of this group is composed of people who just randomly jump on this bandwagon of thought without really thinking about it for themselves.





...and 90% of America Lovers do the same.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5708703 - 06/03/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The problem as I see it is that most cannot separate the actions of the US government with those of it's people. I think Americans, (with a lot of exceptions- there's going to be fucked-up people in ANY nation) are a great people. It's just that those we've placed in charge are the ones that are fucked up.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5708712 - 06/03/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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The "America Hater" label gets applied to those who never have anything good to say about America and seem to revel in whatever failure or misdeeds an American may commit. "Nyah nyah nyahnyah nyah, I saw your underpants". Assuming the worst is also a characteristic of the knee jerk (or even the reflective) "America Hater."




...and what is the difference between those who orgasm all over themselves whenever France or Sweden or Venezula do something deemed a failure?


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Re: The America Haters [Re: Le_Canard]
    #5708714 - 06/03/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It's just that those we've placed in charge are the ones that are fucked up.




...but what does that say about Americans?


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Re: The America Haters [Re: Vvellum]
    #5708729 - 06/03/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It means that some, alas, are easily misled, sad to say. Don't judge me by the actions of my government. FWIW, I probably hate Dubya and Co. as much as you do.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: Vvellum]
    #5708743 - 06/03/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It shows that we are a group of people who have been herded into such a position to where we are only capable of voting for one of two equally worthless parties.

American citizens are sheep who are too chicken-shit to jump off the two-party system bandwagon. As a whole, we are not inherently corrump like many of the politicians who run our country, but we are, as a majority, completely brainless when it comes to doing something reasonable at the polling station.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #5708746 - 06/03/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I hate to dignify this stupid thread with a response, but I just had to give in:

As long as America's leaders claim to represent me, I will consider it in my best interest to criticize any decisions of theirs that do not reflect my morals and beliefs.


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Re: The America Haters [Re: Le_Canard]
    #5708839 - 06/03/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
The problem as I see it is that most cannot separate the actions of the US government with those of it's people. I think Americans, (with a lot of exceptions- there's going to be fucked-up people in ANY nation) are a great people. It's just that those we've placed in charge are the ones that are fucked up.




when the american ppl keep voting for that kind of govt..neocons in particular..then its no longer a matter of the the govt vs the ppl.. the ppl..at least an electoral majority..have given that govt their full blessing and support...for example..i didnt vote for bush or his congressional lackeys..but i will still be judged by the actions of those who did...

nor does the fact that the elections are unfair hold any water either..because if the voters really didnt want the neocons..then they should not continue to tolerate election tampering...but nobody raised the necessary stink when the patently fraudulent diebold machines were forced on them...and when voters tolerate election tampering..they are de facto voting for whomever the gerrymanderers and their diebold machines declare to be the winner...


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Re: The America Haters [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5708963 - 06/03/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Those fucking Chads!!!!!!!


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: The America Haters [Re: Annapurna1]
    #5708972 - 06/03/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well, that's all well and good if it was 100% of the people voting the current asshats into office. Remember, both elections were awful close, hardly a "mandate from the people". Be that as it may, both elections had a very low turnout. If more people actually took the time to register to vote, the results would have been very different, I suspect. Maybe I'm being naive here, but that's what I believe.  :tongue:


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