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Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC
#5706866 - 06/03/06 08:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey guys i found these two caps and a button of what i have come to the conclusion of being Amanita Muscaria. i used the tax. key's in Mushrooms Demystified and i used the pics andeverything i could to narrow down to genus and species. ive come to the conclusion of Amanita Muscaria. its the yellow variation not the red that everyone loves (SMERFS!) but i wanted to make sure



yea so thats them i found them yesterday here
 right on that street corner 
but then last night i had them spore dropping on some paper and the little one(not the button) molded right up!! and the worts on the big cap are starting to turn a little moldy. the mold is like green like the penicillin mold stuff that grows on like oranges when you wait too long to cutem up and eat em. its like a greenish gray fuzzy mold. and it deff wasn't there when i got em are they still ediable? even with the mold ??? should i cut/scrape the mold off on the smaller cap and should i take off the moldy warts on the big cap??? help me out guys 



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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5706873 - 06/03/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Neat find, I'm unexperienced with that species, but I would for sure cut out the moldy parts.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Mead]
#5706880 - 06/03/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did'nt you post in a forum yesterday saying you allready ate them..
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
#5706905 - 06/03/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very nice specimens. They certainly appear to be A. muscaria. I would not eat the moldy parts. You should just throw that one shroom away. There's a good chance that some more will pop up in your spot anyway. Get the others dried or cooked up as soon as possible.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: xmush]
#5706964 - 06/03/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i fort the ones with yellow caps are the deadly look alikes
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5706974 - 06/03/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Definitely A. muscaria var. formosa. Most folks here, myself included, would not advise eating them. Mold or no mold, they're dangerous mushrooms, and do not give desirable effects. Beautiful mushrooms tho 
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5707016 - 06/03/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its the wrong season, those are fall mushrooms. There are many species in the family that are deadly!
Amanita rubescens
Amanita aspera
Amanita caesarea
Amanita velatipes
Amanita pantherina
Amanita phalloides
Amanita vitadinii
do some research!!!!!!!!
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It is not the wrong season. Amanita muscaria can certainly start popping up early in the summertime. It would be difficult to confuse his A. muscaria var formosa with any of those mushrooms that you listed Kielbasa, and not all of the mushrooms that youl isted are deadly poisonous. Caesarea is eaten by many people, though the american version, which is likely a different species than the european one, does cause some GI upset in a lot of people. Amanita rubescens is also edible.
As far as experimenting with amanitas in general, definitely do your research! Read a lot of reports of people's experiences with this powerful mushroom. Most people never try it more than once, however many people find it enjoyable in moderation.
Be careful and good luck
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: xmush]
#5707158 - 06/03/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have scene some projectile vomit with these guys.
I have had sedatative expierences.
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Corporal Kielbasa said: I have scene some projectile vomit with these guys.
I don't doubt that at all! 
I have had sedatative expierences.
Sounds interesting... I assume you are talking about muscaria in both cases? I've never tried them, and probably never will, but I imagine they are something that takes some serious thought and physical and mental preparation. Not to be taken lightly.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5707637 - 06/03/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, I have experience picking those and I say they are muscaria var formosas.
http://www.shroomery.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Hunting/AmanitaMuscariaVarFormosa
Also this is a classic habitat for them
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Yes, not to mention the shear numbers of subspecies in this genera, with some of the most deadly mushrooms, positive id becomes difficult and crucial. Those specimens have a clearly defined concentric rings at the base. In other specimens, those rings may not be as defined. Making it high risk for less than desirable effects. They're still worthy of hunting, they are beautiful
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: LouiseLouise]
#5708808 - 06/03/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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There suposed to be red!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Chops]
#5708834 - 06/03/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: LouiseLouise]
#5711893 - 06/04/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow!! lots of feeed back where to start: Mr_Psilocin - Maybe...i did try a little bit on friday with my friend after makeing sure of their genus and species but i definitely didn't finish the whole cuz in my book they say that someone just had a nibble and freeked out so i just tryed a small amount with my friend and today i just did alittle more but both times i didn't do it with out being high on pot first but odn't worry guys i identified it thoroly being completely strait im not stupid 
as xmush said, A.Muscaria is very hard to mix up with the other Amanita's. i carefully followed the dic. key in the book mushrooms demistified and i checked and re checked many times. i also looked at all the other Amanita's and saw that there aren't really any others that look like muscaria and the book had fantastic pictures in it of this species. i definitely recomend this book by the way
eris- moderator! thanks for looking! im just a noob and so i appreciate alll this fantastic feed back. edit: also eris, do they normally grow under that type of pine tree?? cuz that link you gave me, the pic on there had the same type of needles on it?? what kinda pine tree is that?? do you know??? or is it even a pine should i say, what kinda conifer is that? anyone know??? thanks!
chops- they don't have to be red (i know i love the smerfs too ) but as you can see by the thread title this is the east coast not the west so red don't really grow here....i hope to live on the west coast in somepart of my life
thank you everyone for looking! and im happy that everyone else aggree's with my identification of it being A.Muscaria!!!! Wahooo!! no hospital for me !(ok so i know that sounds dumb but still it was my first found mushroom and im happy i identified it correctly and i was 97% sure i was correct but stilll......that 3% ate at me but ididn't gtet sick and im not sick still soo.l..good signs.)
im going to throw out that one that is moldy and continue to revisit that place where i found em but SHHHHH!!! don't tell anyone where it is!!!!
just in curiosity (can't spell high nor push the buttons) what would happen if you ate the mold??? would it kill you??? probablly will get you sick won't it...oh well good thing i followed instinct and didn't eat it!!!!:) so should i pulll off thos warts on the big cap that might be al ittle green?? cuz i found out that leaveing the caps in the overturned jar over night to print made them moldy. toooooo much humidity! but its ok i took of the jar on the big one before it got molded but i think the warts are alittle green but i dryed em out and they look nice now....should i pull off the warts just incase?? cuz they are still alittle green? and will that effect potency??? thanks guys for helping me out -SenselessRebel
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5711919 - 06/04/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Storing wet mushrooms in places that don't have good air exchange or can't "breathe" is bad. Things like this can cause it to rot, mold, etc.
Eating something that is rotting could probably cause food poisoning. I wouldn't risk, no matter what kind of mushroom it is.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: eris]
#5712239 - 06/04/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't eat it. These mushrooms, the red type, grow everywhere here. I have had friends try them and not one experienced anything pleasant. Mostly a lot of sweating and vomiting. Headaches the next day.
We do dry it and smoke it after getting stoned. It gets rid of the cotton mouth like nothing else. Use it for that if anything.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: XbollweevilX]
#5712252 - 06/04/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't eat the mold. Chances are that it wouldn't hurt you. Could cause some GI upset. Worst case scenario is that it is a penicillium or other species that contains aflatoxin. This is something that can do a number on your liver and also increase the risk of certain cancers later in life.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5712302 - 06/04/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea dude it looks like penicillium like the same stuff that grows on the skin of an orange if you leave it for too long well, sorry XbollweevilX ive already eaten quite a bit of this shroom the little cap i threw out in my yard hopeing but doutfull thanks everyone for stoping buy and XbollweevilX i'll deff try smokeing it for cotton mouth cuz that would be amazing if its a remedy!!! so far tho ive had no neg effects from eating it though i haven't eatin that much yet but....nothing bad yet!!! will scrapeing off the warts decrease potency??? thanks guys -SenselessRebel
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5712718 - 06/04/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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They need to be specially prepared in order to remove the toxins in these mushrooms. I have heard a number of methods to do it, but even so I would definitely not be eating them!
You didn't just eat them raw did you!? If so you could poison yourself!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: oO_wombat_Oo]
#5713014 - 06/04/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Always be sure you have several clear, distinct, seperated concentric rings like those on your shrooms and definate distinct warts on the cap.......there are also yellow A. gemmata and pure yellow forms of A. pantherina are VERY common.....there are also yellowish forms of deadly white Amanitas like Ocreata and forms of deadly Phalloides
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: shroominDole]
#5713113 - 06/04/06 10:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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shroominDole said: there are also yellow A. gemmata and pure yellow forms of A. pantherina are VERY common.....there are also yellowish forms of deadly white Amanitas like Ocreata and forms of deadly Phalloides
Really? I knew phalloides can take on a yellowish hue, but do you think it's easily mistaken for A. muscaria var. formosa?
As far as Amanita muscaria var. formosa, which is obviously what these mushrooms are, I'd think twice about eating them. The nausea/vomiting that is associated with A. muscaria is usually assoicated with variety formosa. If it were me, I would definately not sample these mushrooms.
I've had the chance to sample some Amanita muscaria var. muscaria (blood red ones) that I've found, but I just tossed them. After reading trip reports about this mushroom I've decided that it would probably be a horrible experience. Not worth it man. Find some actual psilocybian mushrooms.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Gumby]
#5713718 - 06/05/06 01:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The warts are not anything to worry about - they are veil remnants from when the mushroom opened out of its "egg like" casing (see the pic).

The top part of the veil dried up and stays on the top of the mushroom.
For those who are worried about the amanita trip I'd suggest watching this little video series. Just to get an idea that its not as unliked by everyone as its made out...  [url=youtube.com/watch?v=1HhANOeD1I4&search=sacred%20weeds[/url] [url=youtube.com/watch?v=4aVIQa9sHvM&search=sacred%20weeds[/url] [url=youtube.com/watch?v=42ONiypMA2w&search=sacred%20weeds[/url] [url=youtube.com/watch?v=XQkcvdOrPew&search=sacred%20weeds[/url] [url=youtube.com/watch?v=H3Mofc_rsf4&search=sacred%20weeds[/url]
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Feelers]
#5713901 - 06/05/06 03:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Feelers, this looks like a cool mini series!! I think that is what it is, thanks for the link!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: CureCat]
#5713988 - 06/05/06 05:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Feelers, this looks like a cool mini series!!
Yeah! I was quite impressed with the series - just search for "sacred weeds" on youtube.com and you can see the other legal drugs they tested - henbane, blue lotus, salvia.
It was cool to see people take these in the presence of oxford proffessors etc.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: CureCat]
#5714003 - 06/05/06 05:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gumby said: phalloides can take on a yellowish hue, but do you think it's easily mistaken for A. muscaria var. formosa?
not if the rest of my advice is used from the initial part of my reply which was my reason for posting it.....
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shroominDole also said: Always be sure you have several clear, distinct, seperated concentric rings like those on your shrooms and definate distinct warts on the cap.......
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LouiseLouiseaid: Those specimens have a clearly defined concentric rings at the base. In other specimens, those rings may not be as defined. Making it high risk for less than desirable effects.
100% correct......the velar remnants which are so important for seperating Amanitas are easily friable and or evanescent(disappearing)or just plain malformed to not at all.....Amanitas are characteristically highly variable as to how the velar ends up displayed and surviving environmental factors.....cant think how many times Ive seen Muscaria with no sign whatsoever of any well formed concentric ring, and no differentiation whatsoever of a free basal rim on Pantherina all the way to a well developed saccate volva and true full blown scull patch to completely naked......countless times where Velosa had developed a perfectly well formed superior membranous annulus !
Also many times with striations on the pileal margin for both Ocreata and Phalloides......and everyone has seen the Muscarias with absolutely no warts present.....and veils fall off and warts wash off.......in Phalloides the volva is commonly buried and commonly disintigrading......in our part of the country Muscaria and Phalloides can occur together occasionally under oak along the coast or even more so where both pine and oak are present together.....so yes I would say if you have mixed populations and quikly collecting yellow forms of Muscaria with malformed rings with the warts washed off and yellow variations of Phalloides are present that may have a malformed or lacerated volva and slighly striated or just overlooked margin you must play it safe although Ive witnessed alot of unsafe practices .....also there may be just one yellow Phalloides hiding in a group of the yellow Formosas which can be extremely pale yellow to white as can Phalloides.......youve always got to assume anything is possible becaause only one liver......and not even mentioning the potential problems of consuming the choice edibles Calyptratoides and Calyptrata/Calyptroderma with Phalloides present and of course the unsurpassed Velosa with Ocreata present and all their cross over color variations on the macro and the fact that they are some of the true camels of mushrooms commonly growing all the way into summer in the west weather permitting when NOTHING else is present and commonly side by side.....but Im still alive to lie about it and havent killed no one yet {I hope........joke)....love double negatives
EDIT: also Rebel like so many posting have only a very small number of posts a great number only 1, 2, 3, etc, and not saying its so in this thread but a large percentage have never picked, identified, or eaten a mushroom outside of something they bought from the store and many wouldnt know a mushroom from a fungus from a toadstool if ya know what I mean ......it can be quite a leap to jump into the arena of Amanitas which have killed more people than the others combined......to many of these people one yellow mushroom with free gills and white spores growing under the same Oak tree can look like another
EDIT: http://www.nemf.org/files/various/muscaria/part2.html
http://www.nemf.org/files/various/muscaria/part1.html
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: shroominDole]
#5719148 - 06/06/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea iknow and before i went out tasteing mushrooms and just looking on the net for key's and stuff, i was still afraid and went and bought books that are published and are varified for the facts and then got em and read em. THEN!!! I FOUND THIS MUSHROOM! and i was skeptical and i almost knew on the spot when i saw it that i thought i knew what it was and i knew that if it was what i thought then it'd tripp me out!! but then i was like, there are a ton of deadly look alikes of trippy mushrooms so i deffinitely gotta see and identify it and even though i have only one, i'lll print it even if doing so would kill my chances at eating it! so, identification is very fun to me and i guess i would consider it to be equally as important to me as tripping on one that i find! so i be sure to kill all my bias' when i identify and if i do have a question i ask someone who i know doesn't know anything about mushrooms and be like, "is this purpleish brown to black? or is it a dark rusty brown?" with out telling them anything of what on color could leed to! so i am very safe about my finding and consuming and i also had to check out the different cases of amouts to tripps and i saw on line that people eat a gram to two of them dry and then in my book it says that there is a few cases of people just nibbleing the wet cap and trippin hard! it also said that the effects were considered to be very unpleasent in some but the author said that he's tryed it and it wasn't nesseeecarillyuj to the point of wanting out asap but it was a way so that he has only done it once and need to do it again. he said that was common with people and this shroom. thanks guys for everything i just went back there today to see if any more came back yet cuz i don'tknow how long it would take for another to possibly pop up!?!?! if it even does happen! what do oyu guys think the chance of that would be?? and how long would be the min/max time before it is likely to happen again. sorry if this isn't toooooo coherient or the spelling is horrible im just alittle high  but this all isn't just mindless dribble hahaha:) ok later guys off to the food cabinet later -SenselessRebel
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5719472 - 06/06/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's funny- I fing those here (in NC) on occasion about this time of yera- perhaps a wee bit earlier. And they all seem to (in comparison with my collectios of mid-late fall specimens) be tighter, more conical, and compact, and tell me this makes any sense: Produce a strikingly dissimilar experience than their fall counterparts. (and yes, of all things I am well aware of the variability of lookalikes within this complex). The vomiting, drunkish, sweating feelings are extremely pronunced whereas my specimens from collections in the same area in autumn have yeilded a far smoother (trip?) than was just mentioned. Of course this is noted by both historians and mycologists as pertaining to Muscaria. Oh well, just a thought. And yeah- judging by a great many things, eating this mushroom will confirm your dislike of it in a way I can probably not relate to you. Not many people dig this stuff....
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superblingtheory you seem to have personal experience with this mushroom...what do you think a suggested dose would be? i know some may be angry for me asking but im interested because some say just nibble which clearly wasn't enough for me to experience anything like these subjects in the youtube video but i was eating it wet. what do you suggest if i do endup finding more of these and do you have any idea of how long new ones will take to pop up if even they will? thanks everyone -SenselessRebel
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
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I agree with the previous posts, stay away from amanitas
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: PSylopHiLe]
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Since my humor has no limits (none that I've found), I'd start with 2.5 or 3 grams (dried). This is best done by heating on low (275f) heat with the door to the oven open on a rack above a pan. Or make tea on med heat with 2.5 to 3g (I use five) to two cups of water for twenty or thirty minutes. I would also note that since (and please no offense intneded) you are rather anxious considering the nature of the substance, you may be interested to know that these specimens this time of year can have EXTREMELY sporadic fruitings. So good luck SenselessRebel! And thanks for providing pics/print.
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If you can get a fruit dehydrator and dry it till crispy or use the oven as above. Eating it fresh is likely to cause more nausea - as the chemicals have not been converted. If you use it dry - you can still steep it in a tea - makes it easier to swallow.
Dried is definately the way to go.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Feelers]
#5723264 - 06/07/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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sweet well wish i didn't muck this all up cuz i came home yesterday and the cap was molded!!!! ahhhh blower.....
superblingtheory sorry but im new at this what does sporadic fruitings mean? does that mean that they just randomly pop up in all differen't places??
ive asked this many times but what do you think the possiblity would be of more poping up there and how long do you think the min/max time would be for a new fruiting will take? sorry sporadic fruitings if you answered it just i don't know too much about what your talking about. THANKS GUYS! today i went walking in my neighborhood and found a handfull of mushrooms and im gonna put em up and see what people think they are. i just don't know how to go about IDing a mushroom using my book if i don't have any idea what they are? any ideas on how to go about this?
also, does the stem have any active things in it?? like if i try your tea method do you suppose the stem'll do anything? thanks everyone -SenselessRebel
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5723288 - 06/07/06 03:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I doubt the stem is enough for a trip. Save, it- dry it out, and take it when you find some more actuves. But um, yes, the stem is active just like the cap.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: CureCat]
#5727095 - 06/08/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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how much do you think i should take???? cuz their dry now should i just make a pot of tea with both stems and just share it with a friend? -SenselessRebel
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: SenselessRebel]
#5727563 - 06/08/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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From the literature I've read the majority of the active compounds are found just under the skin of the cap.
I have access to hundreds and hundreds of amanitas - so I only keep the caps, and only on good specimens. If possible I get them at the end on the "golfball" stage, these were the most prized specimens by the indian shamans, supposedly the brighter red (or yellow in your case) small ones with loads of spots were the strongest.
SenselessRebel how many do you have available to eat? A medium dose is generally considered 2-3 medium sized caps. I would say 2 stems is equivilent to about 1/2 to 2/3s one cap. Remember potency changes alot with this species - however I'd recommend taking both at once, you dont have much material. Those are small specimens on the scale of things unfortunately.
You should get to level one, perhaps level 2. 
On the sporadic fruitings - it just means they have no rhyme or reason, they pop up again when ever they feel like it! If its not far away waiting a week or two to go back, preferably after a period of rain and you might get lucky.
As for taking them - if you can, grind em up with a mortar and pestle, lug them in a coffee or hot chocolate, and hopefully have a nice wee trip
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Feelers]
#5742491 - 06/12/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahah thanks man yea i only got those two i have in my pic. thats all that was there. but yea im gonna keep checking back there for more. thanks guys! oh yea and my spores from earths tounge came today!!! yay! -SenselessRebel
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in the same sentence you told him "do some research" you named 4 mushroom types that are perfectly safe. you fucking moron!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: skelitore]
#17022061 - 10/13/12 01:06 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please stop insulting members that haven't logged on in years, and please stop bumping 6+ year old threads with irrelevant information!!
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Re: Amanita Muscaria??? found near DC [Re: Tangich]
#17022706 - 10/13/12 07:35 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lo fuckin L
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