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    #5705855 - 06/03/06 12:48 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

hey guys I have been reading like crazy and trying to understand one thought and then I read another post and it sas somthing different and i just fucking get confused. so I figure i ll get the ?? out of the way and be done wit. BE NICE every body OK I read the pf tek and I understand than canning part and how to use the mason jar lids , then I read another they said use a foil w a layer of verm , then I read sothing about a dude useing a coffee filter w a top layer of verm. The dude with the coffe filter said it would be best for air exchange , and the pf tk using the jars it takes twice as long... Im confused can somone help me out


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: notnamed000]
    #5705875 - 06/03/06 12:55 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

This is what I do: fill the jar with substrate, put a small layer of dry verm on top of substrate, put a layer of foil over the jar, after the foil put on the cap w holes/ring onto the jar. pressure cook/boil and then inoculate through the hole in the jar which will poke through the foil underneath. I hope that wasn't confusing and this method has worked countless times.


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: notnamed000]
    #5705887 - 06/03/06 12:59 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

1. Fill Pf substrate to jar lid...Like where the threads of glass end. (You should have like an inch or two of space from the top to the sub. level)

2. Put dry verm. on the top...this creates a contam barrier you could say...(Verm. contains no nutes.blahblahblah)

3.Put on metal lid then the ring.

4.Cover with foil. (This keeps water from falling in the jar's holes on the lid)

The coffee filter thing you don't have to do. It's just an extra filter.

If you want to use it...Put it on before the foil and secure it on with a rubber band.

I hope that articuled and written well enough to all make sense.

GL

:cheers:

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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: Trav]
    #5705888 - 06/03/06 12:59 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

should I put sumtin over the hole , and by ring u mean the single piece that screws on tha top and not tha part with the rubber around it
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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: notnamed000]
    #5705894 - 06/03/06 01:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

thanx IGnosticAbhorI

brutha should I put any thing over the holes


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: notnamed000]
    #5705911 - 06/03/06 01:07 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Microporus tape :thumbup:

It comes in first aid kits and you can find it in the first aid aisle.

But IMO, you don't need it...But it doesn't hurt to have it :grin:

-Gnostic


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: notnamed000]
    #5705914 - 06/03/06 01:08 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

notnamed000 said:
should I put sumtin over the hole , and by ring u mean the single piece that screws on tha top and not tha part with the rubber around it
RADD man
I appreciate tha post




Lid as in the metal lid that has the rubber edge...Then secure tight with the Ring...:P

-Gnostic


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5705922 - 06/03/06 01:09 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yap, that's the only thing that I can add to PF, since I dont know it..lol


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5706131 - 06/03/06 02:01 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

You don't need the tape


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: MasFina]
    #5706140 - 06/03/06 02:03 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Also, leave the foil off after injecting with spores so you will have better air exchange.


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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5706147 - 06/03/06 02:04 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

IGnosticAbhorI said:

But IMO, you don't need it...But it doesn't hurt to have it :grin:

-Gnostic




You don't have to do a lot of things, it's just a secondary precaution is all.

It helps somewhat filter air when it comes in after it's been boiled and you let it cool. (If you had no holes, it's seal due to neg. pressure.)

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Re: confusion is a bi*%$ [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5706332 - 06/03/06 02:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I know just what you want another way to do it(lol) do the standard way of preparing the pf jars you know the mix almost to the top with about an inch open for the dry vermiculit, put the dry on then your lid(the thing with the rubber on it)I put 5 holes in mine 4 in the standard places plus one in middle, cover with foil, pc for 60 min at 15 psi. cool down over night. prepare clean place to do the next part. take foil off inoculate with spore print lc what ever you are using, then cover holes with micropore tape set in inncubator, when you see first sign of growth remove the tape from the holes. Everyone has thier way of doing this, you can try different ways till you find one you like. I also have alikn for you that has tips to help speed up colonization
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5574833#Post5574833
I hope this helped and if you need anymore help with the pf you can pm me. GL


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