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kilroy said:
okay lets say B.S. on you researched this, if you had researched any of this you would know some of it and your first statement is that you did not even read the pf-tek right. so where is the research that you did. go to the faq section and look up pf-tek and fallow some of the instructions and you will have a better idea of what you are doing. rubber should face up just so it is easier to get the lid off later, steamer, I have no idea, look it up. read some before you try to get everyone else to do it for you, if you do not have enough patiences to read it then you will fail badly but, GL

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"first time i ever prepared my jars i did not read the pf tek. "

this was in the past, therefore it is not my first time anymore(reading comprehension for the win eh?). i recently read the pk tek before i even posted. if you read the pf tek it doesnt say anything about any of the questions i asked. so why dont you stick your hand back up your ass and remove the bug plz.

ps. fallow? 

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Snaggletooth said:
Never did PF but,

When boiling have more then enough, but not that it could bubble to the lids. And no to the staking idea, the jars need to be in the water.

I dont think upside down lids are needed,

Yes, even with the top layer of vermiculite you still need gas exchange I like to use this,


Like I said I have never done it, just a few thought,


On a side note lets try to answer the question, or at least provide a link that would be helpful, instead of berating someone for not posting questions that were not thoroughly searched for.

There is an old saying; if you have nothing nice to say........

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i have that exact 3m tape. i guess i'll just do a couple jars at a time since i cannot stack. thanks for answering 

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kilroy said:
I am going to say I am sorry for my outburst, bad day but that is no excuse. Do mean steamer or pressure cooker, with a steamer I do not think stavking would be very good but I am not sure about this, if you mean PC(pressure cooker) all you need is about 1 inch of water in it. The  tape is good to leave on till you see growth then you can remove, the tin foil is only need during the stirilzation part to keep more water from entering your jars and making them to damp. I am sorry for blowing up. GL on your study and learn patiences with this type of hobby is the most important part. Alot of reading in the faq section and past post will help as well, when searching make sure to make it past one year. I hope this will help make up for my bitchyness tonight.

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its quite alright. all my questions were answered. muchos gracias. 

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kilroy said:
I am sorry man, I do not usally do that sort of thing and I feel like crap because I had a bad day and took it out on you and there is no excuse for that behavior. I am sorry and will not let it happen agn. God I feel like crap for doing that. GL with your study and snaggletooth had it dead on if nothing nice to say, then keep my mouth shut. I ask that you and everyone else in here forgive me and I will not let it happen agn.

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blah dont even worry about. everyone has a bad day once in a while some more than others  thanks again for the input 

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kilroy said:
oh and by the way, welcome to the shroomery, wow what a way to get greeted huh(lol) Keep up the study and have patiences, looks like I need alot more practice at it myself. but welcome to our big usally happy family, when people like me are not in bad moods(lol). GL

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thanks a bunch. what i intend on doing is setting up 3 diff grow methods and creating an entire log of it all with pics. going to be doing straight cakes in a PMP, spawning cakes to hpoo in baking trays with plastic liner(i read somewhere myc eats tinfoil trays), and the invitro bag tek.