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ShaqAttack
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Wild Bird Seed Soak Question
#5704329 - 06/02/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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How's it going? I soaked some WBS in a cooler for 30 hours. I used hot water from the faucet. The cooler maintained the heat way longer than I imagined - like 24 hours and it was still warm. When I went to rinse and drain the WBS the water was reallly brown and the WBS stunk a little bit - like fermentation had started. I'll probably toss the $6 worth of birdseed so I guess I'm answering my own question. Does anyone have any input on if I should toss the WBS or not?
TIA Shaq
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Atheist
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: ShaqAttack]
#5704355 - 06/02/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No its okay.
Just rinse the fuck out of it and let it drain really good.
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Snaggletooth
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: ShaqAttack]
#5704366 - 06/02/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's going pretty good, though I have a very busy weekend ahead of me. My grandmother is coming to visit for a few days. So that's cool but I just hate to have change my lifestyle even for a few days, I am very selfish 
Anyway on to the WBS. I test mine though it is subjective, just by eating a few seeds to fell the moister level, if there is resistance or if it's soft so on...
I say what the hell PC it, if it turns to mush toss it, no lost.
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ShaqAttack
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: Atheist]
#5704367 - 06/02/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks - I was hoping someone would say that!!!
Best Regards Shaq
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FooMan



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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: ShaqAttack]
#5704386 - 06/02/06 02:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I say fuck soaking!
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dudefromaz
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: FooMan]
#5704393 - 06/02/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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either you soak or you simmer/ pc the hell out of them... i tend to soak then simmer then drain then rinse then simmer then drain then boil the fuck outa them....= good2go
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: dudefromaz]
#5704404 - 06/02/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dudefromaz said: either you soak or you simmer/ pc the hell out of them... i tend to soak then simmer then drain then rinse then simmer then drain then boil the fuck outa them....= good2go
That's overkill and will give you a ton of exploded seeds. Check my sig for the way I do it. Much easier than what you just said.
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splifner180
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: FooMan]
#5704520 - 06/02/06 03:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you're fine. Yeah, WBS does smell a little funky once it's been soaked for 24-36 hours but like Spicy mentioned, rinse the grains repeatedly until the water runs clear.
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Atheist
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: FooMan]
#5704538 - 06/02/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said:
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dudefromaz said: either you soak or you simmer/ pc the hell out of them... i tend to soak then simmer then drain then rinse then simmer then drain then boil the fuck outa them....= good2go
That's overkill and will give you a ton of exploded seeds. Check my sig for the way I do it. Much easier than what you just said.
Dude your wbs prep tek is so fucking awesome its easy as hell and it works perfectly, i would never ever soak wbs its pointless and takes too long, i had jars prepared in 2 hours because of you THANKS
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: ShaqAttack]
#5704567 - 06/02/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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first time doing it and soaked it for like an hour then strained....inoced with 2 holes and took a long while (3weeks) but got the killer growth....did a b+ strain so may have made a difference but what do I know....I am a nooooooooobbbbbb!
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musher_420
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: Atheist]
#5704584 - 06/02/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The way I see it, it only takes 5 minutes (of your time) to soak wbs. You just fill up a bucket with seed then fill it up with water and forget about it. Drain before your ready to use it. Perfect moisture content and you don't need to pay any special attention to what your doing on the stove top. Soaking is the most fool proof way of doing WBS IMO.
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splifner180
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: musher_420]
#5704694 - 06/02/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm with musher_420 on this one BUT that's because I'm always planning ahead. If I needed soaked WBS right now I'd use the simmer method.
The downside with simmer is some amount of burst kernels and it takes time/experience to nail proper moisture content. The upside is speed.
The downside of soak is speed. The upside is no burst kernels and 100% guaranteed perfect moisture.
splif
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dudefromaz
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: FooMan]
#5704733 - 06/02/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said:
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dudefromaz said: either you soak or you simmer/ pc the hell out of them... i tend to soak then simmer then drain then rinse then simmer then drain then boil the fuck outa them....= good2go
That's overkill and will give you a ton of exploded seeds. Check my sig for the way I do it. Much easier than what you just said.
tou che
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musher_420
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: splifner180]
#5704762 - 06/02/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your right, soaking does that some planning ahead. But I always plan my PC runs ahead of time because I don't want anyone comming over or something of that nature.
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indianprincess
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: FooMan]
#5704771 - 06/02/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said:
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dudefromaz said: either you soak or you simmer/ pc the hell out of them... i tend to soak then simmer then drain then rinse then simmer then drain then boil the fuck outa them....= good2go
That's overkill and will give you a ton of exploded seeds. Check my sig for the way I do it. Much easier than what you just said.
I used foomanshroom's tek for my last two batches of wbs and it really doesn't get any easier.
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ShaqAttack
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I rinsed the WBS and drained it well - everything looks fine and the stink is gone. I've had water content issues (I think) in my jars lately. From the same batch of jars i did 1/2 of the jars by G2G and i did 1/2 by inoculation. The G2G failed 100% and the inoculated jars were 100% succesful. The G2G grew a little bit around the chunks and then stalled while the inoculated jars finished. They we all in a Tub in Tub incubator at 80ish degrees. All I could figure was the extra water from the inoculation helped everything along. Anyways my point is: I soaked the WBS in a cooler with warm water from the faucet and the water stayed warm for almost the whole soak. The grain looks great - every single piece looks like its bloated and ready to pop. So after draining I'm hoping the water content will be perfect. I thought I might have killed to birds with one stone - for those who like to soak and then simmer. We'll see how it goes.
Thanks Shaq
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splifner180
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: ShaqAttack]
#5705082 - 06/02/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShaqAttack writes: "The G2G failed 100% and the inoculated jars were 100% succesful. The G2G grew a little bit around the chunks and then stalled while the inoculated jars finished."
Were both jars the same setup? I think stalling is (sometimes) related to FAE, no?
splif
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: splifner180]
#5705098 - 06/02/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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stalling can be caused by bacteria which may be very probable in this situation as the inoculated jars (low risk) prospered and the G2G jars (higher risk) did not
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ShaqAttack
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: BPJohnny]
#5705144 - 06/02/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Both sets of jars (inoculated and G2G) were done in the same glove box on the same day. Both we're put in the same inccubator on the same day. I've always had good luck with G2G. I've never had 100% failure (around 6 jars in this case) though. And for the inoculated jars - I just lifted the lid and squirted the spores in, I didn't pierce the tyvek. All jars have tyvek and 2 1/4" holes in the top.
Thanks Shaq
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splifner180
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Re: Wild Bird Seed Soak Question [Re: ShaqAttack]
#5705247 - 06/02/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh. Then never mind. =)
splif
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