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Offlineleery11
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Re: soulmates? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5708670 - 06/03/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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OldWoodSpecter said:
we have to accept our shape and color, and our purpuse.
If we want something that we are not ment to have, we can spend our short little lives in constant pain, and that really doesn't help us, nor are we of any good to the maker of the cup that way.



what purpose!?

Are you privy to information the rest of us aren't?

Anyway sometimes I run into very neat girls in my dreams but they have a tendency of disappearing.... I was talking to one and she turned into some guy who told me I should get the job I was thinking about.... I was thankful for the information (i think it was a real person that stepped into "her" as a dream character somehow) and didn't mind the intrusion.

Just today though I was talking to one and she walked off and was no longer present in the dream. Seems to happen a lot.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: soulmates? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5708672 - 06/03/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well, you know her name. That is a good place to start.


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Re: soulmates? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #5708682 - 06/03/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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MushmanTheManic said:
Well, you know her name. That is a good place to start.



Like I said, it all came to me in a vision. I've never actually laid eyes on her in real life. I don't even have any physical evidence that she exists. But I will once I meet her.


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Re: soulmates? [Re: leery11]
    #5708687 - 06/03/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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leery11 said:
what purpose!?





that depends on what you believe


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Re: soulmates? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5708728 - 06/03/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Soulmate = codependancy. A healthy relationship is based on independance...not attachment.


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Re: soulmates? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5708952 - 06/03/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

who would want to be alone? that does not compute

Wow, such a narrow view of the world.


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: soulmates? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5709837 - 06/04/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You know for once i am forced to agree with you on allot of things you wrote... Though,you shouldn't ever have a total dependency on another person because you can be hurt if that person isn't what you believe they are.. Sometimes we create an image of another person because we deep down want them to be everything we ever wanted in another person.

But i do strongly agree with what you said about that we all have somebody out there who we are destined to be with, and we do sometimes hurt inside because we want so badly to be with them, and for everything to make sense. It is painful to be alone without them, and it's even worse when you let them go, and kept quiet as they walked out the door. Every bit of you wants to walk up behind them and hold them, telling them you know your making a mistake letting them leave.

Very good points..


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Re: soulmates? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5710008 - 06/04/06 01:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't really want to go all Swami on your ass J, and I know I am a little late for this party, but I think the whole idea of soulmates is problematic... and after plenty of consideration, and considerable heartbreak... I think the whole theory of soulmates... while romantic, is entirely bullshit.

Looking for a "Perfect" soulmate will only give you endless hours to imagine this person, while playing with yourself, with your dominant hand.

Actual companiomship will be severely lacking.

You'd do better by letting your parents arrange a marraige for you...

Far too many people, myself included, have met their "Soulmate" their "Perfect" companion... only to discover this special someone does not feel the same way in return.

Love is an emotion, nothing more. People react to this emotion in varying ways.

Keep your high standards J, do not settle for less of a partner than you deserve, but don't kid yourself into thinking you, and everyone else, has this perfect someone just waiting for them... and if you look hard enough and long enough... you will find them, and they will feel EXACTLY the same way about you, FOREVER. It would be nice... but (and I haven't heard you sing) I think you'd have a better chance of winning American Idol.

How 'bout nuns? Buddha? Larry King? Liz Taylor? Ted Bundy? Do they have soulmates too?


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Re: soulmates? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5710283 - 06/04/06 04:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Soulmate = codependancy. A healthy relationship is based on independance...not attachment.




And who are you to say what is a healthy relationship?


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
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Re: soulmates? [Re: psyka]
    #5710619 - 06/04/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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psyka said:
I'm with EllemyShade - minus the "planetary destiny" junk food. There is nothing magical here. Perfection does not exist. When you realize conflict is good and that interference makes life interesting, you can begin to be ok with "imperfection" - which also is a vague term that defines an illusory concept.




What we need from our companions is often very different from what we want.  The conflict and difficulty which we judge as indicative of imperfection could be the labor pains involved in giving birth to our truest, highest self.

The trick is discerning when the degree of conflict is dysfunctional, distancing, degrading.  When you have ceased to relate as equal partners, the relationship becomes co-dependent (as opposed to interdependent.)  This style of interaction is a handicap to both partners emotional and spiritual growth.

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As Veritas would say, we are all soul mates. We all have something to learn and teach each other. And really, everybody loves everyone else. We're all just mad.




Would I say that?  :wink:  I do think that we are all teachers for one another in our various bumper-car collisions.  What marks out a "soul mate" from the crowd is the curious affinity experienced in their company--the sense that they "grok" you, and you them.  But perhaps this is the dance of personalities, and not relation on the soul level.  It is guesswork to claim that we are all soul mates on the deepest level, as so few are able to swim in those depths.  :heart:


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Re: soulmates? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5710666 - 06/04/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

some turns of phrase, and some fairy tails wreak havock on people by imparting fake ambitions and unhealthy self images.
the "soulmate" phenomenon is both a fairy tale and a turned phrase that has caused incredible unhappiness and wrong expectation worldwide.

each of us has to recreate the whole world from scratch for ourselves, discarding some terms as red herrings (this one for instance).

but

the idea of mate can grow naturally to bear huge personal meaning.

separately from that the term soul can become relavent in a different personal way.

If the life of a person comes into ballance any words can be strung together and they will make wonderful sense, because one is rejoicing in harmony - from that point of view, all fairy tales are true, if only for the joy they are meant to give, and so we are all children again.


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Re: soulmates? [Re: Veritas]
    #5710670 - 06/04/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

want a soul mate, get a dog or a cat
or even a tree...

why does it have to be a person? Some people are
prefectly at home in the forest.


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Re: soulmates? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5717880 - 06/06/06 02:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Soulmate = codependancy. A healthy relationship is based on independance...not attachment.




I agree.  Thats why I've treasured the time I've spent alone in many ways, for it has taught me to love myself, and be happy even with no one around. 

But still, I search for the perfect relationship, the one that lasts forever and never gets unfulfilling.  I know its possible, and I have committed myself to making that possibility a reality. 

Luckily I made some headway in my search this weekend.  Yes, I am officially seeing someone now, a person who I thought was way out of my league, but I found out this weekend she felt the same about me.  So then we decided to join eachother's leagues :lol:

so anyway, for the moment I'm happy to have finally found someone, and hoping to God it will last.  I have a really good feeling about this girl, as she is unlike anyone I have ever been with :heart:  Wish me luck!


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Offlineleery11
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Re: soulmates? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5719282 - 06/06/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

but she exists in this pesky third dimension!!!!

Good luck :smile:


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: soulmates? [Re: leery11]
    #5719629 - 06/06/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the more time I spend with this girl, the more I think she is the product of one of my magick spells, that I have summoned her with my rituals.

When I look into her eyes, I keep getting the strange feeling that she is me from another time and place, and that we have somehow found eachother in this purgatory of a fractured space-time continuum. We are so alike in so many ways, its creepy. I wouldn't go so far as to call her my soulmate (too soon to say on that one), but she is definitely a good candidate! Even the lines on her hand look very similar to mine, and have a unique palm indeed! In fact, the lines on my palm were the inspiration for both a painting and a book, both created by friends of mine.

But I know better than to get my hopes up, because I've been in enough relationships to know that they don't always work out the way they should or the way that we want them to. I hope and pray that this one lasts for at least the summer, because I badly need some of that healing that only a loving relationship can provide. But at this point, even if this fledgling relationship ended tommorow, I would still feel enriched by it, simply because it has already healed many wounds in a very short time. The other day I actually got hungry and went out grocery shopping. I have a really shitty appetite and often find it hard to see food as appealing. But after being with her, I found that my energies had been re-aligned to the point where I actually want to eat and excercise and be a healthy human being, instead of sitting on the computer all day smoking and basically commiting slow suicide. This relationship has already renewed my lust for life, and I think that is what a good relationship does!

again, I ask for your prayers in making this one last as long as possible, so that I may be healed from the wounds that so many hateful souls have inflicted on my mind, body, and soul!


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Offlineleery11
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Re: soulmates? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5719844 - 06/06/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I get that quite frequently, seeing yourself as someone else by seeing someone else as yourself.

About 4 people so far. It can be a bit perplexing and humbling. Often times I adopt their voice and their ways of speaking, not the entire voice, it's still mine with my nuances, but it resembles theirs a lot.

Good luck with her indeed, confusing sir.

The last girl I noticed myself in had a boyfriend. And the last girl I noticed as having a great personality and being uplifting to be around, is engaged.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: soulmates? [Re: leery11]
    #5719848 - 06/06/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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leery11 said:
The last girl I noticed myself in had a boyfriend. And the last girl I noticed as having a great personality and being uplifting to be around, is engaged.



Happens all the time.


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Offlineleery11
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Re: soulmates? [Re: Silversoul]
    #5719952 - 06/06/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

only to some people, i would wager.

the goal is to not be one of those, i suppose.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: soulmates? [Re: leery11]
    #5720116 - 06/06/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i don't think in terms of "soulmates".
there are souls, and there are mates.
why not just call them "lovers"?

like twinflames.
there are no twinflames, there is only flame.
love, and lovers, no reason to make it all complicated just to romanticize over it's spiritual aspects.

women bare children
and men bare women

when you are ready to find your mate
you can think up your perfect love inside your mind, in your heart and soul
and she will be born out of your mind, and into your life
if your love be honest and true
and sometimes this takes a little practice too, because it is possible that you don't exactly know what you want in the form of a mate yet,
doesn't change the fact that you bare your wife this way- if it be that you become married U/R One.

a womans pregnancy is nine months
a man can dream up his wife and bare her in a much shorter time, usually


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Offlineleery11
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Re: soulmates? [Re: Telepylus]
    #5720131 - 06/06/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

interesting.

you don't mean that literally she is created from the mind do you? more like you find her in your mind and then your minds are on the same frequency, so your paths cross?

i should use all my lucid dreams to create an ideal woman instead of trying to have lots of promiscuous action.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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