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moshroom
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enlightend
#5703227 - 06/02/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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does anyone believe they have, or know anyone that believes they have been enlightened while on mushrooms.
when i say enlightened, i do not mean in the lighter sense, such as one who has made a Revelation in their lives, i mean actually attaining enlightenment...
-------------------- Magic Mushrooms are just natures way of saying High!
Edited by moshroom (06/02/06 08:36 AM)
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Icelander
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Re: enlightend [Re: moshroom]
#5703323 - 06/02/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No one ever to my knowledge.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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theorganicdomino
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My second mushroom trip entirely changed my life - so I'd say that was personal enlightenment.
I've also had intensely spiritual moments through several experiences of Ego Loss.
It all depends on what you want to call enlightenment, which may not be the same for every person anyway!
-------------------- "You've got to get hold of the thread of marching time, pull the fuck thing down, get on the end of it and pang yourself to the infinitude of absolute mind" Ken Campbell - Furtive Nudist "The mystery of life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to be experienced" - Aart van der Leeuw
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mrroboto187
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the second time i tripped mushrooms i took a very large dose probably somewhere around 5 grams (silly child) and i BELIEVE i went through about 4 hours of enlightenment which after-glowed for weeks. although i know i went through the death/rebirth process, anyone who is enlightened will not claim they are and that's a fact.
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SDP
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One can not attain enlightenment through mushrooms because the mushroom use itself is contrary to the true meaning of enlightenment.
Someone who is anywhere close to the end of the path of enlightenment hasnt needed mushrooms for many lives... 
-SDP
-------------------- Teonanacatl, open up my eyes This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand Give me strength to find the path Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do Amen
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Re: enlightend *DELETED* [Re: SDP]
#5703748 - 06/02/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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LedHead
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i disagree with most of you. i think satori enlightenment can be attained on mushrooms for sure. it just isnt permanent and when you come down you cant even really rememeber what happened, save for bits and pieces. ego loss is nirvana which is enlightenment.
-------------------- I'm a traveler of both time and space...
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SDP
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Re: enlightend [Re: LedHead]
#5706208 - 06/03/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
LedHead said: i disagree with most of you. i think satori enlightenment can be attained on mushrooms for sure. it just isnt permanent and when you come down you cant even really rememeber what happened, save for bits and pieces. ego loss is nirvana which is enlightenment.
Yea... in retrospect, your right 
-SDP
-------------------- Teonanacatl, open up my eyes This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand Give me strength to find the path Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do Amen
Edited by SDP (06/03/06 12:20 AM)
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SDP
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Re: enlightend [Re: SDP]
#5706959 - 06/03/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Had a crazy daytrip yesterday after my original post... i realized the thruth of that statement.... a state of enlightenment exsists in a place where time does not, so when you tap into it, via mushrooms, it is as real as when your not on shroomss, but like stated, its only temporary...
However i had some extreme spacing out yesterday that gave me some ego loss like i havnt had before... kinda made me think. 
-SDP
-------------------- Teonanacatl, open up my eyes This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand Give me strength to find the path Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do Amen
Edited by SDP (06/03/06 10:00 AM)
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tocuhe
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Re: enlightend [Re: SDP]
#5708038 - 06/03/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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As I understand it, there is a difference between "enlightenment" and "satori." Without saying waht consituites enlightenmen/satoria, I'd say enlightenment is state that one reaches that last, satori are moments of insight/revelation towards enlightenment. Enlightenment is much more defininte and lasting (would say permanent, but i believe in non permance, so I dont know...) and satori is brief glimpse of the answer. So psychedelics can create moments of satori, but not enlightenment.
-------------------- sometimes you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right
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