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OfflineYefet2000
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Pins are not maturing ?? + pics !
    #5671539 - 05/25/06 04:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I started having pins last Friday morning the first ones poped out, more poped put in the next few days and all of them looked fine.
Its almost a week and some of them left very tiny and seem to fade away.. and some grew a bit but its tooo damn slow !!! whats up anything wrong ?
the temps are around 22-30 during the day and approx 15-18 at night.
i mist every day and fan at least 3 times a day.
These are EQ on WBS spawned to poo and cased with verm/coir +crushed egg shell.
thats it here are the pics:
url=http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/06-21/855157920-tray3.jpg][/url]


And this is the FC. BTW they get around 12 hours of light.

thanks for any help.


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Yefet2000]
    #5671541 - 05/25/06 04:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What's all that green?

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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5671547 - 05/25/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If you click on the pic, youll see its not really there. But thats what I thought too at first, lol. The pins look great. How deep is the sub? Looks pretty shallow.

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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: FungusMan]
    #5671555 - 05/25/06 04:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It does look rather shallow. :o

Maybe the sub. can't handle your pinset?

Lack of depth = Lack of nutes/Water

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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #5671565 - 05/25/06 04:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You should have just made that bucket into a monotub and went for a good depth. You just inspired me, Im gonna make one next week :smile:

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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: FungusMan]
    #5671658 - 05/25/06 05:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Substrate depth has nothing to do with it. Those need to be lightly misted after every fanning which should be several times a day.


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: hyphae]
    #5673504 - 05/25/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

First of all the green is due to the fact you cant UL here more than 200KB pics.
Heres an update:
The depth is about 4.5 inch from bottom to top of casing
I tried to make it some kind of monotub with added misting apparently too much...the temps went up here kind of crazy in the last few days and the bucket was so moist and a bit damp. i think the fault is  too much humidity that stopped the pins.
Also some days I'm not here to fan it few times a day, barely 3 times a day.
Anyway some pins surely died coz i see some tiny tiny ones bit gray.
BUT allot of them looking great and i think i solved the FAE and the humidity by spraying less and that:

i added a computer fan, it runs on 12V but I'm giving him only 9V so he runs slower. put some polyfill in the inner end of the tube.
It brings a very very light air flow inside and i think it will do the job.
We'll see about the remaining pins that seem to grow a bit today.
good night and an update tomorrow.. :sunny:


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Yefet2000]
    #5675755 - 05/26/06 02:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well Godd Morning To ya'all.
It seems that my efforts went kid of bad, the casing seem to dry a bit and the more pins "died". some are still ok, but it seems grim at the moment. I took the fan out and misted, then went to work. i'll see wahtsup with it the after noon.
If they all die should i scrape all the pins and wait for 2nd fluch or what ?
Thanks.


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Yefet2000]
    #5675924 - 05/26/06 03:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"The temps are around 22-30 during the day and approx 15-18 at night"

I would say that is the cause of your slow growing.

If it were hitting 15C over night, Thats 59F, way too cold considering it should be 22C, bout 72F.

Try and work something out to keep it at a constant temp, too hot during the day, try under the house?

Too cold at night, keep a fish tank heater set to 21.

Edited by Ascension (05/26/06 03:58 AM)

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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Ascension]
    #5690936 - 05/30/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

all of them aborted.
second flush on the way, so I'll have to wait a bit more.
also have Tahi Koh Samui that doing gr8.
bye and thanks for the help. it was apparently because of lack of moisture and lack of Patience on my side.

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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Yefet2000]
    #5692869 - 05/30/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

twas the green i'd say


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #5693759 - 05/31/06 03:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the green is because the pic had to be resized in for UL to this site.
if you look close you'll see its not there.


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Yefet2000]
    #5695423 - 05/31/06 03:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt it's the temp. My first and only casing thus far went from pins to harvest in a week for three flushes at around 60 degrees F.


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Hand_of_Nog]
    #5695514 - 05/31/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

FAE!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: vescudero0]
    #5699831 - 06/01/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Conclusion about the first flush that went wrong:
Well they published today in the papers that the last 10 days were very hot and for few days it was 42C here, it was the highest temps for may in the last 25 years so i guess it just boiled inside and dried a bit too much.
and above that i didn't have any air movement in my place, now i bought an oscillating fan that works about 18hrs a day so the FAE should improve, as i said the second flush is on the way and looks good right now and the temps went down a bit.
thats all thanks for the help anyway, I'll publish some more pics once i they'll grow bigger.


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: Yefet2000]
    #5700046 - 06/01/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

a fan will quickly dry your area out unless it is contained within your FC. even then, that seems like a bad idea. 18hrs a day is going to evap a lot of water out. get something that will gently blow in some fresh air like an aquarium air pump with a bubble stone inside. that will bring fresh air outside into it and will push out the CO2.

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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: corporateart]
    #5700462 - 06/01/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

looks like FAE and you might have ovemristed


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Re: Pins are not maturing ?? + pics ! [Re: ke1n]
    #5703064 - 06/02/06 07:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the oscillating fan is outside the bucket, its a regular fan.
as you might have read, when you're doing monotub style fc, you would need air movement in the apartment.
of course i didn't put the fan inside the bucket.
and i removed the small computer fan coz as you said it dried up the whole thing.
anyway have a good weekend.


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