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Offlinebud212002
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Did I mix wrong??
    #5702954 - 06/02/06 05:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I used the Simple Cubensis Growing Technique .
I used 3 cups vermiculite, 1.5 cups BRF, 1.5 cups water for (6) 1/2 pint jars. It did seem a bit mushy but I went ahead and inoculated. Is this why I have not seen growth??


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: bud212002]
    #5702959 - 06/02/06 05:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The mix should be a little fluffy, not mushy.

Next time you mix, if it feels mushy/wet....add a little verm to dry it up a bit.

I have found that a mix that's a little dry, is better than a little wet.


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: bud212002]
    #5702960 - 06/02/06 05:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Mushy, in this context, means too wet. Mycelium will have a tough time colonizing the too-wet substrate. How long since you inoculated?


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: MLBjammer]
    #5702961 - 06/02/06 05:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

6 days on 3 of them. 1 day on the other 3


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: bud212002]
    #5702970 - 06/02/06 05:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

give them 3-5 more days. Then if no growth

start over


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: niteowl]
    #5703173 - 06/02/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my forst ones were as you say a little mushy as well, it took 2 weeks before I saw any growth on any of them. Be patient and they might suprise you. I was going to give up on them after 1.5 weeks but just decided to make up a few more and then pop there it was, that beautiful white growth that everyone looks for. I recommend that you only do 3 at a time till you get it down, that way you save some of the syringe and get your tek workrd out. GL and remember patients is a very big part of this type of study


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: kilroy]
    #5707588 - 06/03/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I only have a 4 quart pressure cooker, so 3 jars at a time is all I can do, it really is a bitch. Anyway I did 3 of B+ and did 3 Cambodian 6 days later, none have any growth. I am going to let them be for a few weeks and go ahead and do 3 more. The info. I used should be removed from the site, because it fucked up my mix, (too much water)

I used http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/7919


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: bud212002]
    #5707596 - 06/03/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

how about no?
that's the standard for using brf
2:1:1
just because you either used fine grade verm, or the BRF or verm absorbed moisture from the air doesn't mean that the formula EVERYBODY has been using for their jars needs to be removed from the site
plus you're supposed to mix all dry ingredients before adding the water. is that how you did it?


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: Optx]
    #5707602 - 06/03/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Are you sure you mixed everything in the correct proportions? I used that same guide for my 1st and second grows and found the mix to be a bit on the dry side.. I actually added a small amount of ADDITIONAL water each time, and it still wasn't mushy. I also used a fairly coarse vermiculite, which probably absorbs more water than the fine grade. Did you use a fine grade vermiculite (i.e. very small pieces)?


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: Optx]
    #5707608 - 06/03/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I also used the coarse large pellets(?) of verm. I mixed everything and added thhe water measured exactly, maybe a little less. The BRF just turns everthing to mush when I add the water it seems. I am going to try a lot less water this time. I will post picks and get an opinion on it before I waste spores this time, I have trashed a few now (damn water, damn it to hell)


the verm. I used looks exactly like what is pictured in the tek. I made them open the bag when I bought it to make sure it was correct.


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: bud212002]
    #5707612 - 06/03/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

mix your water with the vermiculite.
coat the wet vermiculite with your flour.
never add water straight to flour.


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5707630 - 06/03/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
mix your water with the vermiculite.
coat the wet vermiculite with your flour.
never add water straight to flour.





damnit I should have known better. oh, well at least I have 5 cubic feet of verm. to play with.


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: bud212002]
    #5707634 - 06/03/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

there you go.
If at first you don't succeed...


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: monstermitch]
    #5707654 - 06/03/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, well in my case. if at first you don't succeed, fuck it up 15 more times, then seek professional help!!


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: bud212002]
    #5710288 - 06/04/06 04:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it also helps if you mix a little water at a time and stir, don't just dump all the water in


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Re: Did I mix wrong?? [Re: Optx]
    #5722997 - 06/07/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

im havin the same problem


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