Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Invisibleohmatic
searcher
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/28/04
Posts: 6,742
Loc: europe
brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche
    #5702950 - 06/02/06 05:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i wonder at what degree the personality of a person is being altered having a brain tumor removed.

as i understand this, the operation and everything definitely leaves a trauma itself and also tehre is the piece of removed tissue.
correct me if i am wrong here, but the tumor as it grows "munches" on the brain and grows right ?

so it actually bilds up tissue somewhere.

given that tumor gets removed, are also parts of the brain removed which changed the way the person is ?
how he behaves, thinks, logik, ego , emotions you get the idea.

reason i ask is i know someone who is bright and nice and he told me of havnig had brain surgery some years back.
and so i wonder.

did the surgery turn him into somebody else ?


--------------------
:penis: MONOTUB tek :sun: HEATBOMB tek :penis:

RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebadchad
Mad Scientist

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 13,372
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: ohmatic]
    #5702977 - 06/02/06 05:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think there's a good answer to your question. THere are a lot of variables to consider. One major factor would be the area of the brain affected (different brain regions are involved in different functions). Then you would have to consider the size of the tumor, how much tissue is removed, etc. etc.

I think you would have to remove a relatively large portion of the brain to get any significant effects.


--------------------
...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleohmatic
searcher
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/28/04
Posts: 6,742
Loc: europe
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: badchad]
    #5702978 - 06/02/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hmm yeah.

in my studies i learned if parts of the brani resposible for one task fail and get removed at early stages,
other parts of the brain can adapt and do its job.

not sure how that's the case when the person was ~16 when the tumor was removed.


--------------------
:penis: MONOTUB tek :sun: HEATBOMB tek :penis:

RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: ohmatic]
    #5702994 - 06/02/06 06:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They have shown that the occipital lobe, in adults that loose their eyesight, will start to process different information.


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinecybrbeast
Up, then down, then...
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/06/03
Posts: 4,777
Loc: event horizon
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: ohmatic]
    #5703006 - 06/02/06 06:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You might want to read  The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat by Oliver Sacks

And
Phantoms in the Brain by V. S. Ramachandran


Great reads, and there are so many things than can happen to a person when something goes wrong in the brain.


--------------------
futuretribe.space


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinestefan
work in progress

Registered: 04/11/01
Posts: 8,932
Loc: The Netherlands
Last seen: 3 years, 3 months
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: ohmatic]
    #5703013 - 06/02/06 06:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ohmatic said:
i wonder at what degree the personality of a person is being altered having a brain tumor removed.



it depends in what area of the brain the tumor is. does the surgeon have to cut trough a lot of brain tissue etc

Quote:

as i understand this, the operation and everything definitely leaves a trauma itself and also tehre is the piece of removed tissue.
correct me if i am wrong here, but the tumor as it grows "munches" on the brain and grows right ?


it doesn't munch on the brain but is fed trough bloodvessels, just like any other part of the body. it can push brain tissue aside or 'crush' it with the pressure it gives.

Quote:

so it actually bilds up tissue somewhere.



yes

Quote:

given that tumor gets removed, are also parts of the brain removed which changed the way the person is ?
how he behaves, thinks, logik, ego , emotions you get the idea.



again it completely depends on the location of the tumor, if it has done any damage and how difficult it is to remove it etc.

Quote:

reason i ask is i know someone who is bright and nice and he told me of havnig had brain surgery some years back.
and so i wonder.

did the surgery turn him into somebody else ?



probably not, but it is possible. you should ask him, or people who know him for longer than that :thumbup:

if you have any more questions about brain-things hit me up with a pm. I study neuropsychology so I know a lot about the brain :laugh:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinestefan
work in progress

Registered: 04/11/01
Posts: 8,932
Loc: The Netherlands
Last seen: 3 years, 3 months
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: Seuss]
    #5703015 - 06/02/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
They have shown that the occipital lobe, in adults that loose their eyesight, will start to process different information.



the brains plasticity is really amazing.

for example if you loose a finger, the brain area for movement of that finger will be 'taken over' by surrounding brain areas of the other fingers.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinestefan
work in progress

Registered: 04/11/01
Posts: 8,932
Loc: The Netherlands
Last seen: 3 years, 3 months
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: badchad]
    #5703017 - 06/02/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

badchad said:
I think you would have to remove a relatively large portion of the brain to get any significant effects.



unfortunately this isn't the case. sometimes minor damage in crucial areas can have major effects.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleHamstercut
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 03/07/06
Posts: 519
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: stefan]
    #5703055 - 06/02/06 07:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

my grandma had brain tumor surgery and she didnt change at all... but she cant see out of her left eye now because of the tumor.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinecybrbeast
Up, then down, then...
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/06/03
Posts: 4,777
Loc: event horizon
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: stefan]
    #5703060 - 06/02/06 07:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

stefan said:
Quote:

badchad said:
I think you would have to remove a relatively large portion of the brain to get any significant effects.



unfortunately this isn't the case. sometimes minor damage in crucial areas can have major effects.



But the reverse is also true. Sometimes people can loose huge amounts of brain matter and still function relatively fine.


--------------------
futuretribe.space


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnom
※※※※※※
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,367
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 8 months, 9 days
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5703120 - 06/02/06 07:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

For people interested in that amazing complex thing in our head:

torrent: http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/35098/PBS_NOVA_Secrets_Of_The_Mind


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemycogirl
goddamn
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 1,135
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: ohmatic]
    #5703236 - 06/02/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Every one has already said it, but it just depends on how soon the tumor is found and where it is.

I had a friend in high school who had a brain tumor. He was so cool and such a bad ass. Chicks wanted him, guys wanted to be him. He was amazing on the skateboard as well as with a pen/pencil. After he had his surgury he was a completely different person. He was very slow, shakey, it took a couple of years for him to be able to walk. I think he probably still has a cane. It was really sad.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebadchad
Mad Scientist

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 13,372
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: mycogirl]
    #5703241 - 06/02/06 08:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

This is one of the more famous accounts of brain damage and personality changes. It's an elementary section of most psych. classes.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/317/7174/1673/a

This is why "how much" is a subjective term when asking how much damage needs to occur.


--------------------
...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleohmatic
searcher
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/28/04
Posts: 6,742
Loc: europe
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: badchad]
    #5704237 - 06/02/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

fascinating topic, guess we still know only little about the brain.


--------------------
:penis: MONOTUB tek :sun: HEATBOMB tek :penis:

RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleohmatic
searcher
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/28/04
Posts: 6,742
Loc: europe
Re: brain tumor surgery, how does it affect the personality / psyche [Re: ohmatic]
    #5707981 - 06/03/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

a friend gave me the movie pi to watch,
he said it'd sorta fit to the topic - well im watching it now


--------------------
:penis: MONOTUB tek :sun: HEATBOMB tek :penis:

RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* your brain on ASPARTAME
( 1 2 3 all )
Psilocybeingzz 8,081 51 07/20/12 11:25 PM
by JrayJ
* Effects of Marijuana on the Brain. BlueTalon 1,973 17 11/24/03 01:59 AM
by Baby_Hitler
* Plastic Surgery (what do you think?)
( 1 2 3 all )
MOTH 6,994 42 11/09/05 09:20 PM
by eric_the_red
* 8 y.o. Girl Dying from a Brain Tumor
( 1 2 all )
TM 2,488 23 08/23/04 05:23 PM
by ToTheSummit
* Inkblot Personality Test
( 1 2 all )
pattern 3,176 28 04/10/04 09:50 PM
by TheShroomHermit
* The brain and music? Help on the Way 1,277 14 02/20/04 05:31 AM
by Help on the Way
* i've been away, like BrAiN, now I'm back crazyman 509 6 12/01/03 02:52 PM
by Jellric
* "Psych-Out" and "The Trip" on DVD LearyfanS 933 3 04/16/03 04:25 PM
by strang

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
2,740 topic views. 2 members, 42 guests and 32 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.022 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 14 queries.